Theresa May

[Deptford Draylons]

Garvin said:

fatjon said:

MarshPhantom said:

65 million people want Brexit to happen?

What the actual fk?

She said "The government also has 65m people willing it to make a success of Brexit."

Are we to assume you disagree with that and want it to fail?

Exactly. She said in reference to successful negotiations "And another thing that's important. The essential ingredient of our success. The strength and support of 65 million people willing us to make it happen."

Stunning lack of simple comprehension skills by some posters.

I think Marsh will be avoiding the thread and only appear again at a later day with a similar claim for another day. Like PH poster, ///ajd, they are long on wild claims, short on any answers.

[XslaneyX]

DapperDanMan said:

It's a free country.

If people aren't happy with Brexit then they are perfectly entitled to say so. I suggest you stop whinging about people whinging and get used to it.

Who is it better for? Better for you? If you don't like it then stop reading about it.

Whinge as much as they want. Still leaving the EU

a clip of Sturgeon just popped up on sky news. Very salty!

[alfie2244]

DapperDanMan said:

alfie2244 said:

ofcorsa said:

But it's ok to whinge about people whinging about people whinging =?

Noticed you didn't quote my reply. A bit of confirmation bias I think

DapperDanMan said:

It's a free country.

If people aren't happy with Brexit then they are perfectly entitled to say so. I suggest you stop whinging about people whinging and get used to it.

Who is it better for? Better for you? If you don't like it then stop reading about it.

DapperDanMan said:

alfie2244 said:

ofcorsa said:

But it's ok to whinge about people whinging about people whinging =?

Better now grumpy?

[anonymous-user]

loafer123 said:

desolate said:

Can anyone comment on why she would make this speech now rather than wait for either the supreme court decision or for the article 50 vote?

Because the entire media pack, European leaders, UK population and probably unknown aliens hordes have been demanding that she explains what she is going to do.

Do we know when the supreme court decision is due to be announced?

Whilst I appreciate the clarity of her speech, it does seem as if it will give the "remain" campaign a bit of something to fight against and increases their chances of causing issues within parliament.

I still can't see how they can stop it though.

[Garvin]

DapperDanMan said:

ofcorsa said:

But it's ok to whinge about people whinging about people whinging =?

It is more about free speech.

So it is more about your definition of whinging being different to mine. It seems that maybe yours is based on answering a Brexit voter back?

Whilst I agree that people are entitled to make their views known and in a manner they deem acceptable what I object to is people whinging and using erroneous information and misquotes to try and justify their whinges. Whinge away I say, just make them accurate whinges!

[craigjm]

desolate said:

I still can't see how they can stop it though.

Correct me if I am wrong but weren't MPs (Including May) broadly in favour of remaining? So if the deal goes to a parliamentary vote they could, if given free reign, vote against the deal achieved. Not sure what that would achieve long term but who knows.

If that happened could the government force it though???

[Yipper]

Hard Brexit = recession.

[Gargamel]

Yipper said:

Hard Brexit = short term recession.

Staying in Euro = Long term decline

[p1stonhead]

craigjm said:

desolate said:

I still can't see how they can stop it though.

Correct me if I am wrong but weren't MPs (Including May) broadly in favour of remaining? So if the deal goes to a parliamentary vote they could, if given free reign, vote against the deal achieved. Not sure what that would achieve long term but who knows.

If that happened could the government force it though???

Considering A50 will have been triggered after the vote, im not sure what would be the point either. Itll either be accept it, or end up with nothing surely?

[cayman-black]

Yipper said:

Hard Brexit = recession.

What ? I think the opposite.

[768]

Eric Mc said:

I think she struck the right tone.

Now that the decision to leave is set - there is no point in messing about with all sorts of half way houses. Part of the reason markets are jittery is because of uncertainty. Anything that helps reduce uncertainty has to be correct.

She has effectively removed a bargaining chip from the EU negotiators. They were hoping the UK would want access to the Free Market similar to what a member state gets. Now that they have been told that this is not what the UK wants - they have less in the way of obstacles to throw in the road.

Agreed.

Stating that the UK intends to stand on its own two feet and is confident and comfortable in doing so is probably the smart move regardless of what she wants from the negotiations. If she states she wants anything substantial they'll use it to hold us over a barrel for everything else.

Better than that though is the possibility that it's an honest assessment of where she wants to take the UK.

[craigjm]

cayman-black said:

Yipper said:

Hard Brexit = recession.

What ? I think the opposite.

Nobody knows what it will mean until it happens and considering that they cant measure a recession until you are 2 quarters into it then nobody will know until 6 months after exit.

[V88Dicky]

craigjm said:

cayman-black said:

Yipper said:

Hard Brexit = recession.

What ? I think the opposite.

Nobody knows what it will mean until it happens and considering that they cant measure a recession until you are 2 quarters into it then nobody will know until 6 months after exit.

And it's not like we haven't had any recessions since 1973 now, is it?

[Mark Benson]

768 said:

Eric Mc said:

I think she struck the right tone.

Now that the decision to leave is set - there is no point in messing about with all sorts of half way houses. Part of the reason markets are jittery is because of uncertainty. Anything that helps reduce uncertainty has to be correct.

She has effectively removed a bargaining chip from the EU negotiators. They were hoping the UK would want access to the Free Market similar to what a member state gets. Now that they have been told that this is not what the UK wants - they have less in the way of obstacles to throw in the road.

Agreed.

Stating that the UK intends to stand on its own two feet and is confident and comfortable in doing so is probably the smart move regardless of what she wants from the negotiations. If she states she wants anything substantial they'll use it to hold us over a barrel for everything else.

Better than that though is the possibility that it's an honest assessment of where she wants to take the UK.

What Eric and 768 said. She couldn't go cap in hand to the EU, look where it got Cameron.

There's no point going into negotiations on the back foot, "Please can we have...." when we can stand on our own in the world; we have Trump saying only yesterday he's keen to talk, NZ Prime Minister before that, Aussies before that. We can demonstrate we'll still be trading with someone so why not make it the EU but we don't want the downsides or costs of being part of the club?

[don'tbesilly]

Yipper said:

Hard Brexit = recession.

I seem to recall a recession was predicted if the UK voted to leave the EU.

The UK did vote to leave the EU and despite the prediction there doesn't appear to be one (recession), or one on the way.

Rather surprisingly, the £ has gained on both the $ and Euro and was gaining on both during May's speech.

[CaptainSlow]

Yipper said:

Hard Brexit = recession.

You must be an expert.

[JeremyH5]

Mark Benson said:

What Eric and 768 said. She couldn't go cap in hand to the EU, look where it got Cameron.

There's no point going into negotiations on the back foot, "Please can we have...." when we can stand on our own in the world; we have Trump saying only yesterday he's keen to talk, NZ Prime Minister before that, Aussies before that. We can demonstrate we'll still be trading with someone so why not make it the EU but we don't want the downsides or costs of being part of the club?

I'm with you chaps. Good speech.

[craigjm]

don'tbesilly said:

Rather surprisingly, the £ has gained on both the $ and Euro and was gaining on both during May's speech.

Thats not surprising. The value of the pound is linked to certainty. It took a dive after brexit vote because it was unexpected. Today there has been some news of what the future will look like and therefore it recovers a bit.

[Jockman]

don'tbesilly said:

I seem to recall a recession was predicted if the UK voted to leave the EU.

IIRC it was predicted whatever the outcome??

It will be a correct prediction when the recession comes....whenever that is.....in the future sometime.....ish.

[jonby]

Jockman said:

don'tbesilly said:

I seem to recall a recession was predicted if the UK voted to leave the EU.

IIRC it was predicted whatever the outcome??

It will be a correct prediction when the recession comes....whenever that is.....in the future sometime.....ish.

Too true. Every prediction is correct if you wait long enough