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Garvin said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
davepoth said:
Theresa May did this for us today:
I hope nobody doubts her commitment now.
She is not doing a great job, he still has one pussy grabbing hand free ! I hope nobody doubts her commitment now.
I think in reality it's a bit of a power thing on Trump's part, like allowing someone to go through a doorway before you. It seems polite but it shows he's in charge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWeqIkJZYNQ
Unfortunately, having voted to leave the EU we are now beholden to the USA for a trade deal and Trump has shown enthusiasm for negotiating one as soon as possible. That means we can't impose a reactionary ban on him and Theresa May has to take a more measured approach to dealing with him that avoids alienating him as he is a very reactionary person himself.
Strocky said:
Had to be forced into a wishy washy statement re Trump's Muslim ban after initially refusing to condemn it, despite it affecting British Nationals including a member of her own Party
The only statement I've heard her make about it was 100% spot on - his border policy is up to him and his government. The end. Full stop. Nothing more required.Whether it impacts British nationals is neither here nor there. If she really feels the need and importance of it then talk to him behind closed doors, but there was no need to say any more to the baying cretins of the media. Nothing good could come of it, and frankly it could not have made the position any clearer than she already had.
Murph7355 said:
The only statement I've heard her make about it was 100% spot on - his border policy is up to him and his government. The end. Full stop. Nothing more required.
Whether it impacts British nationals is neither here nor there. If she really feels the need and importance of it then talk to him behind closed doors, but there was no need to say any more to the baying cretins of the media. Nothing good could come of it, and frankly it could not have made the position any clearer than she already had.
Agree completely, be pragmatic, be smart, play the long game. And I never thought I'd say that about her.Whether it impacts British nationals is neither here nor there. If she really feels the need and importance of it then talk to him behind closed doors, but there was no need to say any more to the baying cretins of the media. Nothing good could come of it, and frankly it could not have made the position any clearer than she already had.
ecurie said:
In other words, suck up to him.
It may amaze you to learn this, but being the PM is about more than virtue signalling.Given the US is our most important ally fierce denunciations of them by our PM tends to be reserved for fiction, like the cringe worthy scene in Love Actually.
JagLover said:
It may amaze you to learn this, but being the PM is about more than virtue signalling.
Given the US is our most important ally fierce denunciations of them by our PM tends to be reserved for fiction, like the cringe worthy scene in Love Actually.
I wonder how "diplomatic" May would have been, had she not been so desperate for a trade deal.Given the US is our most important ally fierce denunciations of them by our PM tends to be reserved for fiction, like the cringe worthy scene in Love Actually.
She was shamefully late with her reaction compared to the rest of the world leaders and only gave in because of the criticism she got for it.
ecurie said:
andy_s said:
Yeah, what's wrong with that if it's to our advantage?
It's called desperation and dependency.Dependency? That's not something you choose, it's something that is, by necessity - if we don't have any interest in the US then tell them to f
k off. But we do, nature of the beats.So what's wrong with appearing to suck up if it gets us what we want? Isn't it about time politicians started lying and manipulating each other rather than us?
Perhaps her "lateness" was merely seeing how things panned out as the EO came into effect. As it does appear many are over reacting to it.
EG, the OP suggests it will affect British subjects including one of her own MPs, but that appears not to be a case now.
Just like after Brexit and Trump's victory, the left get all shouty and we are immediately all doomed...but in the grand scale of things, such votes and decisions do not end the world in a day.
The Trump EO is a storm in a teacup and will be forgotten about next week as it will affect precious few of any importance. It's affecting a handful of people from a few small countries and now it is known about, it will affect even fewer as they will just go through the procedures now.
People are too quick to get their knickers in a twist, so May was perhaps not "late" after all?
EG, the OP suggests it will affect British subjects including one of her own MPs, but that appears not to be a case now.
Just like after Brexit and Trump's victory, the left get all shouty and we are immediately all doomed...but in the grand scale of things, such votes and decisions do not end the world in a day.
The Trump EO is a storm in a teacup and will be forgotten about next week as it will affect precious few of any importance. It's affecting a handful of people from a few small countries and now it is known about, it will affect even fewer as they will just go through the procedures now.
People are too quick to get their knickers in a twist, so May was perhaps not "late" after all?
Murph7355 said:
The only statement I've heard her make about it was 100% spot on - his border policy is up to him and his government. The end. Full stop. Nothing more required.
Whether it impacts British nationals is neither here nor there. If she really feels the need and importance of it then talk to him behind closed doors, but there was no need to say any more to the baying cretins of the media. Nothing good could come of it, and frankly it could not have made the position any clearer than she already had.
I agree! Whether it impacts British nationals is neither here nor there. If she really feels the need and importance of it then talk to him behind closed doors, but there was no need to say any more to the baying cretins of the media. Nothing good could come of it, and frankly it could not have made the position any clearer than she already had.
crofty1984 said:
Murph7355 said:
The only statement I've heard her make about it was 100% spot on - his border policy is up to him and his government. The end. Full stop. Nothing more required.
Whether it impacts British nationals is neither here nor there. If she really feels the need and importance of it then talk to him behind closed doors, but there was no need to say any more to the baying cretins of the media. Nothing good could come of it, and frankly it could not have made the position any clearer than she already had.
I agree! Whether it impacts British nationals is neither here nor there. If she really feels the need and importance of it then talk to him behind closed doors, but there was no need to say any more to the baying cretins of the media. Nothing good could come of it, and frankly it could not have made the position any clearer than she already had.
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