What a disaster the Tories are.

[JawKnee]

sidicks said:

JawKnee said:

I didn't make this thread. Yes the Tories are a laughing stock. Look at who she made Foreign Secretary for a start. Whatever you say about Diane Abbot, she's better than Bozo, the worst Mayor London has ever had.

It's almost as if you've decided you've not trolled enough already, so you've now made more and more outrageous claims until you get banned.

Just making stupid claims without evidence isn't credible forum posting, it's demonstrating the intelligence and debating ability of a primary school child.

I've had the displeasure of living under his mayoralty. It was a disaster and Londoners now hate him.

230TE said:

JawKnee said:

Bozo, the worst Mayor London has ever had.

Excluding the present incumbent (only just elected so too early to judge) you would have to admit that Boris is, at least, the second best ever Mayor of London. Go on, try to deny it.

Ok, 2nd in a two horse race if you prefer.

[sidicks]

JawKnee said:

I've lived under his mayoralty. It was a disaster and Londoners now hate him.

To use the level of your debating style:

"No they don't".

Edited by sidicks on Wednesday 19th October 22:07

[JawKnee]

sidicks said:

I've lived under his mayoralty. It was a disaster and Londoners now hate him.

To use the level of your debating style:

"No they don't".

Yes they do.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/davehillblog/2...

Edited by JawKnee on Wednesday 19th October 22:09

[sidicks]

JawKnee said:

Yes they do.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/davehillblog/2...

I do wonder if you actually understand half the stuff you post.

If you actually bother to read the article you notice two key things:

1. The survey was how they felt about Johnson being part of the Brexit 'leave' campaign

2. The final approval rating of Johnson as mayor (as measured by YouGov just before the election to replace him on 5 May.) showed+23% - 52% of Londoners saying he had done a good job and only 29% saying he hadn’t. It was a far higher score than that of any national politician at the time.

[johnxjsc1985]

Jeeza is as popular as a fart in a lift even his own MP's cant stand him . The real disaster is we have no official opposition in Westminster and its going to get even worse in 2020.

[NRS]

JawKnee said:

Merely bringing this thread back on topic. The subject line and OPs post is about the Tories in case you missed it. There is a different thread if you want to talk about the leader of the opposition. But I suspect you're the one who wants to distract attention with your "look over there at the party which isn't in charge-isms".

So, back on topic. What has Theresa May done so far?

Dithered on Hinkley C
Dithered on new runways
Dithering on Brexit
....
That' not a great first 3 months to be honest. wtf do the next 3 years hold!?

Edited by JawKnee on Wednesday 19th October 20:57

Half of the arguments on both "sides" here are as silly as each other. But if you come into a new job do you just approve everything straight away, or do you try and find out the details about things before approving them? If she continued dithering about things it might be an issue later, but when you are new in a job I think it's actually worse to approve stuff straight away before you have had time to understand it better.

[sidicks]

NRS said:

Half of the arguments on both "sides" here are as silly as each other. But if you come into a new job do you just approve everything straight away, or do you try and find out the details about things before approving them? If she continued dithering about things it might be an issue later, but when you are new in a job I think it's actually worse to approve stuff straight away before you have had time to understand it better.

If she had made a lot of immediate decisions he'd have complained that she was 'forcing things through to keep her mates in the City happy' or similar.

[Gogoplata]

This recent polling data highlights the public perception of how disastrous the Tories are:

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 47% (+7)
LAB: 29% (-5)
LDEM: 7% (+1)
UKIP: 6% (-3)
GRN: 4% (-1)

(via Ipsos Mori / 14 - 17 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 42% (+3)
LAB: 28% (-2)
UKIP: 11% (-2)
LDEM: 9% (+1)
GRN: 3% (-)

(via YouGov / 11 - 12 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 43% (+2)
LAB: 26% (-)
LDEM: 8% (-)
UKIP: 11% (-3)
GRN: 6% (+2)

(via ICM / 07 - 09 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 38% (+1)
LAB: 31% (-)
UKIP: 16% (+1)
LDEM: 5 (-1)

(via Opinium)

Taken from Britain Elects Facebook page.

[sidicks]

sidicks said:

JawKnee said:

Yes they do.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/davehillblog/2...

I do wonder if you actually understand half the stuff you post.

If you actually bother to read the article you notice two key things:

1. The survey was how they felt about Johnson being part of the Brexit 'leave' campaign

2. The final approval rating of Johnson as mayor (as measured by YouGov just before the election to replace him on 5 May.) showed+23% - 52% of Londoners saying he had done a good job and only 29% saying he hadn’t. It was a far higher score than that of any national politician at the time.

JawKnee - a response please!


Or are you just going to run away, like you did on the Facebook tax discussion, when you were proved totally wrong?!

Edited by sidicks on Thursday 20th October 11:00

[P5BNij]

ThunderGuts said:

P5BNij said:

Temporary PC probs!

If you're typing from a trading desk Jawknee is your man for a power cycle!

I prefer four wheels, not two... sorry, couldn't resist!

If Jawknee were ever to be 'my man' I'd have him polishing my kit three times a day and seeing to the horses, that way he wouldn't have the time to post the deluded non-answers he's been depositing all over NP&E...

[vonuber]

The problem with PH is that even when you do have an expert in a certain field, if it goes against the perceived wisdom of the self appointed forum experts on here they will continue to attack and belittle (combined with some quick googling) the expert just to prove that they are correct.

I would not be surprised if a lot of people just don't bother anymore because it can be exhausting (from previous experience).

[alfie2244]

vonuber said:

The problem with PH is that even when you do have an expert in a certain field, if it goes against the perceived wisdom of the self appointed forum experts on here they will continue to attack and belittle (combined with some quick googling) the expert just to prove that they are correct.

I would not be surprised if a lot of people just don't bother anymore because it can be exhausting (from previous experience).

Are you inferring JK & expert in the same sentence?

[crankedup]

Gogoplata said:

This recent polling data highlights the public perception of how disastrous the Tories are:

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 47% (+7)
LAB: 29% (-5)
LDEM: 7% (+1)
UKIP: 6% (-3)
GRN: 4% (-1)

(via Ipsos Mori / 14 - 17 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 42% (+3)
LAB: 28% (-2)
UKIP: 11% (-2)
LDEM: 9% (+1)
GRN: 3% (-)

(via YouGov / 11 - 12 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 43% (+2)
LAB: 26% (-)
LDEM: 8% (-)
UKIP: 11% (-3)
GRN: 6% (+2)

(via ICM / 07 - 09 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 38% (+1)
LAB: 31% (-)
UKIP: 16% (+1)
LDEM: 5 (-1)

(via Opinium)

Taken from Britain Elects Facebook page.

This far, and it is of course early days, I am half impressed with the Tories in Government. P.M. Seems credible and recognises that her Government must steer a course for the middle ground or run aground. Rowing back a little from big businesses will be tricky with Brexit on the burner.

[Smiler.]

vonuber said:

The problem with PH is that even when you do have an expert in a certain field, if it goes against the perceived wisdom of the self appointed forum experts on here they will continue to attack and belittle (combined with some quick googling) the expert just to prove that they are correct.

I would not be surprised if a lot of people just don't bother anymore because it can be exhausting (from previous experience).

Which one are you?

[vonuber]

Smiler. said:

Which one are you?

Sorry not getting (no doubt hilarious) reference.

[TEKNOPUG]

JawKnee said:

Diane Abbott

The Credibility Train has well and truly left the station, ladies & gentlemen.

[B'stard Child]

TEKNOPUG said:

JawKnee said:

Diane Abbott

The Credibility Train has well and truly left the station, ladies & gentlemen.

We need to have a code name for that one - if we don't have one Techiedave turns up in the thread and we all need eye bleach or mind bleach........

[Pan Pan Pan]

The majority of the UK voting public know that voting for politicians in the UK is not likely to provide a first class government, but at least they have managed to work out, that voting for the tories is the equivalent of walking along the very edge of a 500 foot cliff, whereas voting for labour is the equivalent of taking a flying jump off the edge of it. Voting for the tories `may' lead to disaster, voting for labour, GUARANTEES it 100 thousand, thousand percent.

[Smiler.]

vonuber said:

Sorry not getting (no doubt hilarious) reference.

That's ok

[JawKnee]

Gogoplata said:

This recent polling data highlights the public perception of how disastrous the Tories are:

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 47% (+7)
LAB: 29% (-5)
LDEM: 7% (+1)
UKIP: 6% (-3)
GRN: 4% (-1)

(via Ipsos Mori / 14 - 17 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 42% (+3)
LAB: 28% (-2)
UKIP: 11% (-2)
LDEM: 9% (+1)
GRN: 3% (-)

(via YouGov / 11 - 12 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 43% (+2)
LAB: 26% (-)
LDEM: 8% (-)
UKIP: 11% (-3)
GRN: 6% (+2)

(via ICM / 07 - 09 Oct)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 38% (+1)
LAB: 31% (-)
UKIP: 16% (+1)
LDEM: 5 (-1)

(via Opinium)

Taken from Britain Elects Facebook page.

The UKIP loons are returning to the mothership.

vonuber said:

The problem with PH is that even when you do have an expert in a certain field, if it goes against the perceived wisdom of the self appointed forum experts on here they will continue to attack and belittle (combined with some quick googling) the expert just to prove that they are correct.

I would not be surprised if a lot of people just don't bother anymore because it can be exhausting (from previous experience).

True that.