Indonesian chemical castration
Discussion
I wonder what peoples attitudes are to the Indonesian plan to chemically castrate pedophiles.
There is a strong condemnation of the plan but I think that many people would agree with it.
When one of those horrible incidences are reported, it is a very common outcry that "he should be castrated".
I find myself not disagreeing.
Obviously, as with capital punishment, the risk is that innocent people may suffer.
For that reason I think that it would not be acceptable.
There is a strong condemnation of the plan but I think that many people would agree with it.
When one of those horrible incidences are reported, it is a very common outcry that "he should be castrated".
I find myself not disagreeing.
Obviously, as with capital punishment, the risk is that innocent people may suffer.
For that reason I think that it would not be acceptable.
Rovinghawk said:
If the conviction is beyond doubt then I have no problem with whatever punishment is levied, particularly if it's appropriate to the crime.
Surely to be found guilty in the first place it must be beyond doubt? Could the procedure be reversed if they are later found to be innocent?Mr Snrub said:
Surely to be found guilty in the first place it must be beyond doubt? Could the procedure be reversed if they are later found to be innocent?
Doubtfull.I believe there are peodophiles who'd quite happily undergo such procedures in an attempt to get rid of the urges they'd rather be without and live as a risk-free person, so crack on.
I spend a lot of time in Indonesia, police are not very efficient, so much of the extreme penalties are in reality just a deterrent, this policy is popular with most Indonesians. Much of the pedophilia in SE Asia is also incest, it seams that all the cases in the paper are uncle/niece type relationships and if action is taken then guilt is so far beyond doubt that it falls into place with little investigation. The recent case of the Brutish guy here in KL demonstrates what I mean, that prosecution was actually done by the Aussies/British courts, appears to be no interest/skill here in doing the work of chasing up on the 'internet' type of case. So I would imagine any one who had this penalty applied would literately be caught in the act with guilt well beyond doubt..
motco said:
Is the treatment a sort of testosterone suppressant like those given to prostate cancer sufferers - i.e. a daily tablet? Or is it a one-off depth-charge that blows your nuts to smithereens for ever, as it were?
They have their balls inserted into a plastic bag and held on with an elastic band. The bag is filled with concentrated sulphuric acid! PoleDriver said:
motco said:
Is the treatment a sort of testosterone suppressant like those given to prostate cancer sufferers - i.e. a daily tablet? Or is it a one-off depth-charge that blows your nuts to smithereens for ever, as it were?
They have their balls inserted into a plastic bag and held on with an elastic band. The bag is filled with concentrated sulphuric acid! Interesting replies, thanks.
Mr Snrub said:
Rovinghawk said:
If the conviction is beyond doubt then I have no problem with whatever punishment is levied, particularly if it's appropriate to the crime.
Surely to be found guilty in the first place it must be beyond doubt? Could the procedure be reversed if they are later found to be innocent?If there's absolutely no question regarding guilt then whatever punishment is fine.
Given that the activities of these sad excuses for humans are more about violence and power than about anything any functional person would call sex, I've heard it said - apologies for lack of source - that violent rapists rendered unable to rape with their own anatomy will just be more inclined to use an inanimate object instead, with potentially far worse outcomes for victims. Unless you're also absolutely guaranteeing life imprisonment, there seems to be potential for a horrible chip on their shoulder/self pity/self-righteousness (obviously amazingly misplaced) then fuelling further violent attacks of whatever nature.
Tldr: seems it may not really achieve much.
Tldr: seems it may not really achieve much.
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