Richmond Park by-election.

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williamp

19,217 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Things we were told before the referendum:

-The value of the pound would be affected, risking higher prices in shops and damage living standards
-Losing full access to the single market
-mobile phone costs (roaming) will increase
-leaving would reduce investment and cost jobs
-10+ years of economic uncertainty
-leaving the EU might mean we have to accept free movement of all EU citizens if we access ths single market, like Nowary

And various other things we are now told we were not told.

hyphen

26,262 posts

89 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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B'stard Child said:
... On top of that she's a fking accountant - trouble with them is they are very good at numbers but not so good at knowing what activity drove the numbers they can see.....
Most of the numerical part of accounting is basic maths.

The responsibility is the knowledge of what the rules are and how to apply them. Which is exactly what she was quizzed on in the interview...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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B'stard Child said:
On top of that she's a fking accountant - trouble with them is they are very good at numbers but not so good at knowing what activity drove the numbers they can see.....
Now, just a little moment, you absolute b'stard...irked

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
On top of that she's a fking accountant - trouble with them is they are very good at numbers but not so good at knowing what activity drove the numbers they can see.....
Now, just a little moment, you absolute b'stard...irked
I missed a wink

- I work in finance

It's a translation role mainly - 30 years in manufacturing biggrin

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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hyphen said:
B'stard Child said:
... On top of that she's a fking accountant - trouble with them is they are very good at numbers but not so good at knowing what activity drove the numbers they can see.....
Most of the numerical part of accounting is basic maths.

The responsibility is the knowledge of what the rules are and how to apply them. Which is exactly what she was quizzed on in the interview...
But if you don't understand what drives the numbers - you will always be just reporting numbers.....

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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B'stard Child said:
mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
On top of that she's a fking accountant - trouble with them is they are very good at numbers but not so good at knowing what activity drove the numbers they can see.....
Now, just a little moment, you absolute b'stard...irked
I missed a wink

- I work in finance

It's a translation role mainly - 30 years in manufacturing biggrin
tongue out

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
On top of that she's a fking accountant - trouble with them is they are very good at numbers but not so good at knowing what activity drove the numbers they can see.....
Now, just a little moment, you absolute b'stard...irked
I missed a wink

- I work in finance

It's a translation role mainly - 30 years in manufacturing biggrin
tongue out
I'm confused - are we OK or not?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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B'stard Child said:
mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
On top of that she's a fking accountant - trouble with them is they are very good at numbers but not so good at knowing what activity drove the numbers they can see.....
Now, just a little moment, you absolute b'stard...irked
I missed a wink

- I work in finance

It's a translation role mainly - 30 years in manufacturing biggrin
tongue out
I'm confused - are we OK or not?
I think so...you b'stard...rofl

I used to be an accountant...

But I'm all right now...smile

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
mybrainhurts said:
B'stard Child said:
On top of that she's a fking accountant - trouble with them is they are very good at numbers but not so good at knowing what activity drove the numbers they can see.....
Now, just a little moment, you absolute b'stard...irked
I missed a wink

- I work in finance

It's a translation role mainly - 30 years in manufacturing biggrin
tongue out
I'm confused - are we OK or not?
I think so...you b'stard...rofl

I used to be an accountant...

But I'm all right now...smile
See for me that's the problem with British industry - we have this silo mentality - bean counters count the beans without knowing how the beans are made - manufacturing people make the beans without knowing what it costs - logsitics make sure all the ingredients are available to make the beans and make sure the beans that are made are sent to the customers that want them without knowing how the beans are made or the cost of making them.....

Rarely do people migrate between the silos

It's actually quite fun..... You can really fk with peoples heads when you've done it

wc98

10,334 posts

139 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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JawKnee said:
Ahahahaha. Another knock for the Tories' slender majority. Another knock for Brexit. Another right wing bigot kicked out of parliament.

Well done Richmond. A proud day for this country.
roflmao ! it says a lot about the people that voted for this candidate , i will give you that.

wc98

10,334 posts

139 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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tdog7 said:
Only that hilariously stty argument doesn't stack up does it.

Richmond park, as well as being pro-remain, is one of the most educated constituencies in the country. (I wonder if there's a relationship here). So as opposed to many leave voters (not all) who voted leave because 'its all those fking immigrants fault', the people of richmond probably made a more educated choice.
voting in that clown says a lot about the people of richmond that did vote for her. highly educated is not the first thing that springs to mind though.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

211 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
CaptainSlow said:
jjlynn27 said:
The one where Patrick O'Flynn had to interrupt the interview? How would you call that?
He didn't need to interrupt, and if you watch it Farage told him to go away because he wanted to continue answering a question.
Farage was getting destroyed, his corner threw the towel in to save him from getting pummelled to oblivion.

Then again if you are getting your thoughts from order-order, your position is unsurprising.
Rubbish, that wasn't s pummelling at all. The interviewer was the one being shown u for regurgitating the same rubbish.

Fair enough if you don't like Farage but don't ever accuse him of not being able to answer a straight question when all other politicians dodge and weave to avoid exposing their lack of intelligence and knowledge.

And btw order-order weren't the interviewers...maybe expand your reading beyond the Guardian.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

211 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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hyphen said:
Most of the numerical part of accounting is basic maths.

The responsibility is the knowledge of what the rules are and how to apply them.
Rubbish, I suggest you go back to the 1970s.

The Hypno-Toad

12,251 posts

204 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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PurpleTurtle said:
B'stard Child said:
brenflys777 said:
The new Richmond MP just had a car crash interview withJulia Hartley-Brewer on Talk Radio.

JHB asked the obvious questions - when's the 2nd by-election? Why is a 4% by-election win a 'clear majority' but not in the referendum, etc.. Some attempt to answer, then she stopped talking and a LibDem press officer said she had to go to another interview!


http://talkradio.co.uk/news/new-richmond-park-mp-s...


Edited by brenflys777 on Friday 2nd December 11:47
Sheesh that really was car crash radio........
Maybe, but Julia Hartley-Brewer is a troll looking for a bridge to hide under. She knows full well that Olney is new to the game, it's an incredibly cheap shot to put her on the spot like that on her first day in the job so to speak, we've all been the new boy/girl in our time. Party should have protected her from tts like JHB and her stty station but I dare say the Lib Dems are desperate for the publicity that has come with this scalp.
Sorry but no.

She has just become an MP campaigning mainly on one issue.
JHB warned her before the interview that this would be the main line of questioning.
She fell to pieces quicker than a Boeing over the Indian Ocean when she should have been able to brush aside that line questioning before returning to her on-message policy viewpoints. A sixth form debating club student should have been able to do this.
She will be earning close £65k from the public purse to put the needs and values of her constituents forward in the House.
On that performance I would suggest that she is totally unprepared for that role.

Can't wait for her first speech or question to the PM. "Do you want me to answer to you or the man standing behind you holding the phone?"

As I said, utterly pathetic.

Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Saturday 3rd December 04:15

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

242 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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She's already said she will use any vote in parliament to vote against any Brexit taking place, and not just the weasel LibDem line of voting against leaving the single market.
Brave stance, but she's placed herself into the fire by going beyond even the party like.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

229 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Rich_W said:
One of the things Zac campaigned hard against was Heathrow Runway 3 of course. Something that matters a great deal to the locals there. And it was that decision which led to him resigning, standing as an indy etc etc.


Olney didn't mention LHR R3. So far as I can see she's never mentioned it. Locals in the area describe LibDems destroying rain forests by the trillion acres load. Flyers every other day. Constant badgering by them.

What's interesting is that her husband Ben works for the infrastructure company that will be building Runway 3 (if it ever goes ahead)



FFS!
Apparently, he works for HS1 (the line & stations from St Pancras to the tunnel).

I don't think HS1 is involved in R3 at Heathrow. HAL released the names of the design team this week.

Link

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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wc98 said:
tdog7 said:
Only that hilariously stty argument doesn't stack up does it.

Richmond park, as well as being pro-remain, is one of the most educated constituencies in the country. (I wonder if there's a relationship here). So as opposed to many leave voters (not all) who voted leave because 'its all those fking immigrants fault', the people of richmond probably made a more educated choice.
voting in that clown says a lot about the people of richmond that did vote for her. highly educated is not the first thing that springs to mind though.
I have met some very well educated idiots over the years.

AC43

11,436 posts

207 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Justin Case said:
Zac Goldsmith supported Brexit in a constituency where 70% supported remain.
That's the nub of it.

It's an opportunity for Londoners to their version of the Northern protest vote.

tdog7

236 posts

150 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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jmorgan said:
I have met some very well educated idiots over the years.
I'm so sorry, I forgot that the leave camp had 'had enough of experts' as Michael Gove so eloquently put it. Dismissing the value of education and knowledge probably does help if you want to be a brexiter though. (and before anyone gets too upset, I do acknowledge there are some valid reasons for leaving the EU)

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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AC43 said:
Justin Case said:
Zac Goldsmith supported Brexit in a constituency where 70% supported remain.
That's the nub of it.

It's an opportunity for Londoners to their version of the Northern protest vote.
The best news is a lot of the areas that voted leave aren't suddenly going to start electing Tory MPs.





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