Richmond Park by-election.

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CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
What I find funny is that same people who were outraged by James O'Brian destroying his Nigeness are now getting excited about some noname LibDem.
If you're referring to the interview held a couple of years ago I wouldn't call that destroying him. O'Brian raised a couple of tricky questions to Farage who in turn answered them candidly.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
Deptford Draylons said:
Just to put it in some context, the LibDems are polling 8% nationally. Ukip who have spent the summer having punch ups and merry-go-round leaders and lost any real reason for actually existing post referendum, are polling 13%
So how come UKIP have just one MP and the Lib Dems nine?
Because first past the post is a democratic disgrace? Both parties should have more MPs IMO, under a PR system.

brenflys777

2,678 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
What I find funny is that same people who were outraged by James O'Brian destroying his Nigeness are now getting excited about some noname LibDem.

Anecdotal; from few friends who live there, Zac was not really held in high regard at all.
Have you got a link to the interview? I've not rated James O'Bian as an interviewer and I'd be interested to hear him 'destroy' the media savvy Farage. I can't imagine Farage being lost for words on such a basic question or flouncing off without saying something either.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

201 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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brenflys777 said:
It gets worse. JHB had tweeted what she would ask Olney at least an hour before she appeared. I thought the LibDem press office had delayed the interview to prep her....
Skewered.

brenflys777

2,678 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Northern Munkee said:
Want to know what Summer from Jack Black's School of Rock went on to be...
Saabster or Olney? I can picture both cool

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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brenflys777 said:
Have you got a link to the interview? I've not rated James O'Bian as an interviewer and I'd be interested to hear him 'destroy' the media savvy Farage. I can't imagine Farage being lost for words on such a basic question or flouncing off without saying something either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qoq7TcpSvE

brenflys777

2,678 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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CaptainSlow said:
The link isn't working for me.

ClaphamGT3

11,322 posts

244 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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JagLover said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
I tend to agree with this. It is this sentiment that could just see Corbyn in Downing St in 2020 (or before).

I have been a Tory all my adult life but Theresa May's Tory party has never felt less like my party. I - and a large number of people that I know, are erring much more towards the Lib Dems. I don't think that it is entirely unreasonable to envisage the situation where a shift of the of the middle class professional Tory vote to the Lib Dems and shift of the more working class Tory vote towards UKIP or labour could see Corbyn in Downing St, albeit probably as head of a Lib Dem/Labour coalition
Tory lead in polls reaches record levels (and has been much higher since the replacement of Cameron by May)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/29/conserv...

Yes the realignment in politics will continue, but for every affluent, virtue signaling, middle class voter they lose they seem to be picking up more than one from the working class.
Although - taking it at face value - the data you reference shows the reverse is true. The Tory lead has come from the Lib Dems who's supporters are unlikely to be working class. Additionally that, up against Corbyn, May can only muster a 16 point lead is risible and demonstrates what an electoral liability that she is for the Tories. Given Corbyn's performance she should be 20 points plus ahead.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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ClaphamGT3 said:
JagLover said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
I tend to agree with this. It is this sentiment that could just see Corbyn in Downing St in 2020 (or before).

I have been a Tory all my adult life but Theresa May's Tory party has never felt less like my party. I - and a large number of people that I know, are erring much more towards the Lib Dems. I don't think that it is entirely unreasonable to envisage the situation where a shift of the of the middle class professional Tory vote to the Lib Dems and shift of the more working class Tory vote towards UKIP or labour could see Corbyn in Downing St, albeit probably as head of a Lib Dem/Labour coalition
Tory lead in polls reaches record levels (and has been much higher since the replacement of Cameron by May)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/29/conserv...

Yes the realignment in politics will continue, but for every affluent, virtue signaling, middle class voter they lose they seem to be picking up more than one from the working class.
Although - taking it at face value - the data you reference shows the reverse is true. The Tory lead has come from the Lib Dems who's supporters are unlikely to be working class. Additionally that, up against Corbyn, May can only muster a 16 point lead is risible and demonstrates what an electoral liability that she is for the Tories. Given Corbyn's performance she should be 20 points plus ahead.
Only a sixteen point lead is risible?
lol

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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CaptainSlow said:
jjlynn27 said:
What I find funny is that same people who were outraged by James O'Brian destroying his Nigeness are now getting excited about some noname LibDem.
If you're referring to the interview held a couple of years ago I wouldn't call that destroying him. O'Brian raised a couple of tricky questions to Farage who in turn answered them candidly.
The one where Patrick O'Flynn had to interrupt the interview? How would you call that?

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
The one where Patrick O'Flynn had to interrupt the interview? How would you call that?
He didn't need to interrupt, and if you watch it Farage told him to go away because he wanted to continue answering a question.

Biker 1

7,754 posts

120 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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CaptainSlow said:
http://order-order.com/2016/12/02/sarah-olney-walk...

Quite amusing, seems the newest MP is a moron.
yikes fk me that was seriously cringeworthy!!
Just watching ITV London news - Zac Goldsmith apparently 'down & out'. He is a tt - even more of a moron than the new MP!

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Here is another debate that O'Brien clearly won.

I think that I have a Scottish cousin, don4ld.

O'Brien starts by complaining about "inarticulate rage". What follows is great fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ydcdgRmpjE&t=...

Ganglandboss

8,309 posts

204 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Mark Benson said:
It's quite clear to me that the people of Richmond didn't know what they were voting for.

Maybe they were 'low information' voters, seduced by BBC, Guardian and Economist propaganda, brainwashed by demagogues like Branson, Geldof and Blair. Can we trust people like this with the big decisions affecting us all, like who sits in parliament?
We need a second vote, a chance to get it right. The country needs saving from this kind of person.


Also:





Edited by Mark Benson on Friday 2nd December 11:35



Biker 1

7,754 posts

120 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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hehehehehehehehe Love the pictures - nearly fell off the sofa!!!

B'stard Child

28,454 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Ganglandboss said:
Ahhh banana splits what a great show

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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CaptainSlow said:
jjlynn27 said:
The one where Patrick O'Flynn had to interrupt the interview? How would you call that?
He didn't need to interrupt, and if you watch it Farage told him to go away because he wanted to continue answering a question.
Farage was getting destroyed, his corner threw the towel in to save him from getting pummelled to oblivion.

Then again if you are getting your thoughts from order-order, your position is unsurprising.

saabster14

487 posts

155 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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brenflys777 said:
Saabster or Olney? I can picture both cool
laugh

I've really got under your skin haven't I?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Another environmentalist bites the dust.

Excellent news...smile

B'stard Child

28,454 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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saabster14 said:
brenflys777 said:
Saabster or Olney? I can picture both cool
laugh

I've really got under your skin haven't I?
I'm warming to you, you aren't in Jawknees league in terms of content (where has he gone to?) and consequently trabi could do with a new wing man

Try not to tag team with marshphantom he's a little bit nuts