Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
Discussion
El stovey said:
I think it's more like everyone's on a cruise ship in the ocean.
It's making some funny noises and people aren't really sure why. People are complaining and some junior crew think it's unsafe.
For some reason, the captain decides to shut them up by having a vote to decide whether to evacuate, expecting people to follow him and the senior crew and stay onboard.
Some junior crew and just over half the passengers decide everyone should evacuate and get in the lifeboats. The captain and all the senior crew disagree but have to go along with the decision.
It's making some funny noises and people aren't really sure why. People are complaining and some junior crew think it's unsafe.
For some reason, the captain decides to shut them up by having a vote to decide whether to evacuate, expecting people to follow him and the senior crew and stay onboard.
Some junior crew and just over half the passengers decide everyone should evacuate and get in the lifeboats. The captain and all the senior crew disagree but have to go along with the decision.
thats spookily accurate
El stovey said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
the remoaners remind me of the people who refused to leave the Titanic when it was sinking because it was "unsinkable". How did that work out for them?.
I think it's more like everyone's on a cruise ship in the ocean. It's making some funny noises and people aren't really sure why. People are complaining and some junior crew think it's unsafe.
For some reason, the captain decides to shut them up by having a vote to decide whether to evacuate, expecting people to follow him and the senior crew and stay onboard.
Some junior crew and just over half the passengers decide everyone should evacuate and get in the lifeboats. The captain and all the senior crew disagree but have to go along with the decision.
The captain and he senior officers have to all pretend they're behind the evacuation to keep morale up and ensure it goes smoothly and everyone gets off the boat safely.
loafer123 said:
El stovey said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
the remoaners remind me of the people who refused to leave the Titanic when it was sinking because it was "unsinkable". How did that work out for them?.
I think it's more like everyone's on a cruise ship in the ocean. It's making some funny noises and people aren't really sure why. People are complaining and some junior crew think it's unsafe.
For some reason, the captain decides to shut them up by having a vote to decide whether to evacuate, expecting people to follow him and the senior crew and stay onboard.
Some junior crew and just over half the passengers decide everyone should evacuate and get in the lifeboats. The captain and all the senior crew disagree but have to go along with the decision.
The captain and he senior officers have to all pretend they're behind the evacuation to keep morale up and ensure it goes smoothly and everyone gets off the boat safely.
p1stonhead said:
loafer123 said:
El stovey said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
the remoaners remind me of the people who refused to leave the Titanic when it was sinking because it was "unsinkable". How did that work out for them?.
I think it's more like everyone's on a cruise ship in the ocean. It's making some funny noises and people aren't really sure why. People are complaining and some junior crew think it's unsafe.
For some reason, the captain decides to shut them up by having a vote to decide whether to evacuate, expecting people to follow him and the senior crew and stay onboard.
Some junior crew and just over half the passengers decide everyone should evacuate and get in the lifeboats. The captain and all the senior crew disagree but have to go along with the decision.
The captain and he senior officers have to all pretend they're behind the evacuation to keep morale up and ensure it goes smoothly and everyone gets off the boat safely.
El stovey said:
I think it's more like everyone's on a cruise ship in the ocean.
It's making some funny noises and people aren't really sure why. People are complaining and some junior crew think it's unsafe.
For some reason, the captain decides to shut them up by having a vote to decide whether to evacuate, expecting people to follow him and the senior crew and stay onboard.
Some junior crew and just over half the passengers decide everyone should evacuate and get in the lifeboats. The captain and all the senior crew disagree but have to go along with the decision.
The captain and he senior officers have to all pretend they're behind the evacuation to keep morale up and ensure it goes smoothly and everyone gets off the boat safely.
It's the best yet for sure. I'd maybe have added some PHesque eperts amongst the passengers who sailed a Mirror once, aged 8, shouting the odds at the captain from the sun deck.It's making some funny noises and people aren't really sure why. People are complaining and some junior crew think it's unsafe.
For some reason, the captain decides to shut them up by having a vote to decide whether to evacuate, expecting people to follow him and the senior crew and stay onboard.
Some junior crew and just over half the passengers decide everyone should evacuate and get in the lifeboats. The captain and all the senior crew disagree but have to go along with the decision.
The captain and he senior officers have to all pretend they're behind the evacuation to keep morale up and ensure it goes smoothly and everyone gets off the boat safely.
Edited by El stovey on Thursday 5th January 08:53
B'stard Child said:
p1stonhead said:
loafer123 said:
El stovey said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
the remoaners remind me of the people who refused to leave the Titanic when it was sinking because it was "unsinkable". How did that work out for them?.
I think it's more like everyone's on a cruise ship in the ocean. It's making some funny noises and people aren't really sure why. People are complaining and some junior crew think it's unsafe.
For some reason, the captain decides to shut them up by having a vote to decide whether to evacuate, expecting people to follow him and the senior crew and stay onboard.
Some junior crew and just over half the passengers decide everyone should evacuate and get in the lifeboats. The captain and all the senior crew disagree but have to go along with the decision.
The captain and he senior officers have to all pretend they're behind the evacuation to keep morale up and ensure it goes smoothly and everyone gets off the boat safely.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk...
That's strange, I thought hate crime reporting had gone up. It's all so confusing
That's strange, I thought hate crime reporting had gone up. It's all so confusing
Apologies for the Guardian link, but this headline is genius:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
Elysium said:
Apologies for the Guardian link, but this headline is genius:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
That headline is a bedwetter's wet dream.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
don4l said:
Elysium said:
Apologies for the Guardian link, but this headline is genius:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
That headline is a bedwetter's wet dream.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
May certainly seemed to unclarify matters for the markets.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/09/j...
The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
FN2TypeR said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/09/j...
The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
If he says this, then I tend to agree with him: The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
Guardian on Corbyn said:
Labour is not wedded to freedom of movement for EU citizens as a point of principle. But nor can we afford to lose full access to the European single market on which so many British businesses and jobs depend. Changes to the way migration rules operate from the EU will be part of the negotiations
bmw535i said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk...
That's strange, I thought hate crime reporting had gone up. It's all so confusing
People need to be clear that it is the EU that is failing to clarify the position of EU citizens living abroad in relation to Brexit. The UK has asked that it be sorted ahead of time only to be told no. That's strange, I thought hate crime reporting had gone up. It's all so confusing
It is in the EU's gift to address it. EU citizens living here need to understand this is symptomatic of why the majority of people here voted to leave. It has nothing to do with wanting positively contributing people to leave the country.
Elysium said:
Apologies for the Guardian link, but this headline is genius:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
May and Merkel are simply drawing out their opening lines of negotiation. And both are essentially saying the same thing but from different sides of the debate. There is the square root of sod all in that article. Which is no surprise with The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
FN2TypeR said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/09/j...
The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
Corbyn is starting to realise which side his bread's buttered on. Tim Farron should be very concerned. The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
Murph7355 said:
Elysium said:
Apologies for the Guardian link, but this headline is genius:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
May and Merkel are simply drawing out their opening lines of negotiation. And both are essentially saying the same thing but from different sides of the debate. There is the square root of sod all in that article. Which is no surprise with The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
FN2TypeR said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/09/j...
The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
Corbyn is starting to realise which side his bread's buttered on. Tim Farron should be very concerned. The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
Corbyn and some of Labour too are beginning to realise just what trouble they're in.
Murph7355 said:
Elysium said:
Apologies for the Guardian link, but this headline is genius:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
May and Merkel are simply drawing out their opening lines of negotiation. And both are essentially saying the same thing but from different sides of the debate. There is the square root of sod all in that article. Which is no surprise with The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
FN2TypeR said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/09/j...
The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
Corbyn is starting to realise which side his bread's buttered on. Tim Farron should be very concerned. The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
I suspect that Corbyn has suddenly realised that he is out of touch with 90% of even labour's voters and is having to change his hymnsheet a little.
I am pretty surprised at this as Corbyn is so mentally principled that I have never seen him soften his stance once.
As for him 'seeing sense', regardless of whether you are prop or anti immigration, Corbyn has never 'seen sense' in his life and he never will. He has a black and white communist opinion that is utterly immovable.
I am pretty surprised at this as Corbyn is so mentally principled that I have never seen him soften his stance once.
As for him 'seeing sense', regardless of whether you are prop or anti immigration, Corbyn has never 'seen sense' in his life and he never will. He has a black and white communist opinion that is utterly immovable.
blindswelledrat said:
I suspect that Corbyn has suddenly realised that he is out of touch with 90% of even labour's voters and is having to change his hymnsheet a little.
I am pretty surprised at this as Corbyn is so mentally principled that I have never seen him soften his stance once.
As for him 'seeing sense', regardless of whether you are prop or anti immigration, Corbyn has never 'seen sense' in his life and he never will. He has a black and white communist opinion that is utterly immovable.
I think he has actually realised no one would ever vote for him so now he is saying whats really on his mind. Like this tripe;I am pretty surprised at this as Corbyn is so mentally principled that I have never seen him soften his stance once.
As for him 'seeing sense', regardless of whether you are prop or anti immigration, Corbyn has never 'seen sense' in his life and he never will. He has a black and white communist opinion that is utterly immovable.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38568116
Murph7355 said:
Tim Farron should be very concerned.
You've got to be kidding? This whole thing is an absolute gift for him.A year ago the Lib Dems were utterly finished.
Now he has the only anti-Brexit party and half the country supports that stance strongly, probably above any other political policy.
Politicians are pandering to brexit but it does not mean for one moment that the half the country who voted remain feel any differently.
Last election they got 8% of the vote. If the election were this year and they were the only party talking about being anti Brexit whilst all the other parties fought over the votes of the Brexiters, do you really think that is a bad thing for him?
FiF said:
Murph7355 said:
Elysium said:
Apologies for the Guardian link, but this headline is genius:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
May and Merkel are simply drawing out their opening lines of negotiation. And both are essentially saying the same thing but from different sides of the debate. There is the square root of sod all in that article. Which is no surprise with The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/10/b...
I think it is 'convenient' that May's Brexit strategy seems to be to simply leave the EU, with anything else being irrelevant. That places no pressure on her, or our negotiators to protect our economy - and the Brexiteers are lapping it up.
We remain on track for a pyrrhic victory, pending the decision of the Supreme Court, which should be due anytime now.
FN2TypeR said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/09/j...
The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
Corbyn is starting to realise which side his bread's buttered on. Tim Farron should be very concerned. The man with the beard that nobody cares about.
He say no.
Corbyn and some of Labour too are beginning to realise just what trouble they're in.
May's lack of directness is a stark contrast. The Express certainly felt that 'no bits of membership' meant a clean break from the Single Market:
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/75...
But when pressed, she states that this clean break is not 'inevitable'. It is not just the Guardian who are confused:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-may-st...
It seems to me that May's determination to deny the false dichotomy of 'hard' and 'soft' Brexit is for her own convenience.
The more vague her plan (and 'the best deal for Britain' is pretty vague) the more likely it is that she will be able to claim victory.
And yet the Brexiteers continue to buy it.
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