Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
Discussion
Jockman said:
andymadmak said:
KimJongHealthy said:
I do share some of your views on bureaucracy and control over individual countries, but so far the EU has proven to work. We haven't had any major conflicts on the continent for nearly 80 years now while keeping Russia under control.
Sure, there's room for some reforms, but at the moment Britain wants to have the cake and eat it. It won't work.
Proved to work at what? Bankrupting southern European states and creating a youth unemployment epidemic there that will have social consequences for the next 50 years? Sure, there's room for some reforms, but at the moment Britain wants to have the cake and eat it. It won't work.
Are you suggesting that the reason why we have not had war in Europe is because of the EU? Nothing to do with NATO?
Are you suggesting that the reason Russia stepped back from the cold war is because of the EU? - Actually, in what way is the EU "Keeping Russia under control"? Are you not aware of the existence of the USA, NATO, Reagan/Gorbachev?
KimJongHealthy said:
wc98 said:
KimJongHealthy said:
Old fart who thinks you still have a strong empire you are?
46 (meets my definition of old, derek may disagree 
) who thinks the uk needs a good kick up the arse and a resetting of priorities. i am of the love europe , hate eu persuasion and think individual european countries could be in a far better position out of the most corrupt bureaucracy the west has ever seen.i have a major problem with politicians willing to write of an entire generation of european kids just to try and maintain what is nothing more than a badly managed vanity project .
Sure, there's room for some reforms, but at the moment Britain wants to have the cake and eat it. It won't work.
t again?don4l said:
Brexit apparently means "Brexit".
Who'd a thunk it?
The big news is that we now have an idea of what our Govt thinks Brexit means beyond that frustrating sound bite.Who'd a thunk it?
I'm not particularly pleased with the direction that's May has set out, but at this point I think clarity is hugely valuable. At least we now have some idea of the Govts desired outcome and can plan accordingly.
There are going to be some big losers here and some market turbulence, but I think it would have been much worse if we had triggered article 50 without a published plan. As it stands our negotiating position with the EU is now far stronger than it was, which is again a good thing.
The next milestone is the Supreme Court verdict. I think May knows what this is already!
KimJongHealthy said:
Nissan is building them in Britain for the duty-free access to the EU market.
Guess what's going to happen with Nissan factory when Britain leaves the duty-free common market?
we don't buy many cars here in the uk look round at all the worn out old heaps , Nah no market for cars apart from Guess what's going to happen with Nissan factory when Britain leaves the duty-free common market?
across the channel japan, OZ ,NZ and south africa won't want any either or brazil india USA Canada etc no market for cars outside the EU
Yes our factories will be shut down over night
don4l said:
Brexit apparently means "Brexit".
Who'd a thunk it?
don4l between your share advice post referendum and your prediction of what would happen in relation to the type of brexit , ie leaving single market, i think you should be renamed "mystic don". keep polishing that crystal ball !Who'd a thunk it?
Funkycoldribena said:
Thought I'd clicked on page 1 by accident.
Same old doom and gloom.
Does it ever stop? My kids are less whingey and moany..
Little anecdote.Same old doom and gloom.
Does it ever stop? My kids are less whingey and moany..
Our 4 yr old had a temper tantrum in Asda...........laid on the floor, stamping feet and making high pitch whingeing noises............Didn't last long once grandad laid beside her and did same.... Nanny spent the rest of the shopping trip 2 aisles away from us both
Funkycoldribena said:
Thought I'd clicked on page 1 by accident.
Same old doom and gloom.
Does it ever stop? My kids are less whingey and moany..
They are now no more than laughable parodies of themselves and what they represent.Same old doom and gloom.
Does it ever stop? My kids are less whingey and moany..
Almost all of the doom and gloom predictions they have chanted over the course of this thread have failed to materialise. Indeed, in some cases, the polar opposite of what they predicted has happened.
don'tbesilly said:
It can't be far off can it, the inevitable...
"Leave the Single Market? That wasn't on the ballot paper"!
No you're right, it said remain or leave the EU which to me meant we were voting to leave ALL of the stinking mess not some of the stinking mess"Leave the Single Market? That wasn't on the ballot paper"!
or fully remain in the stinking mess !!!!
KimJongHealthy said:
wc98 said:
KimJongHealthy said:
Turkeys voting for Christmas?
What exactly has Britain got to offer in the Worldwide trade deals? Cars? Nope, we EU companies will move factories to Romania or Poland. Heavy industry? Nope, China does it cheaper. High-tech? Not really. Science? Half of it relies on cooperation with EU scientists and students.
Overcooked soggy chips exported to Spain?
millenial are we ? not really understand how this self governance works ? watch and learn What exactly has Britain got to offer in the Worldwide trade deals? Cars? Nope, we EU companies will move factories to Romania or Poland. Heavy industry? Nope, China does it cheaper. High-tech? Not really. Science? Half of it relies on cooperation with EU scientists and students.
Overcooked soggy chips exported to Spain?
Anyway nothing's changed, its all politicians flim glam, personally I think she's lying through her teeth, show us signed Art 50 or shut up.
alfie2244 said:
Jockman said:
andymadmak said:
KimJongHealthy said:
I do share some of your views on bureaucracy and control over individual countries, but so far the EU has proven to work. We haven't had any major conflicts on the continent for nearly 80 years now while keeping Russia under control.
Sure, there's room for some reforms, but at the moment Britain wants to have the cake and eat it. It won't work.
Proved to work at what? Bankrupting southern European states and creating a youth unemployment epidemic there that will have social consequences for the next 50 years? Sure, there's room for some reforms, but at the moment Britain wants to have the cake and eat it. It won't work.
Are you suggesting that the reason why we have not had war in Europe is because of the EU? Nothing to do with NATO?
Are you suggesting that the reason Russia stepped back from the cold war is because of the EU? - Actually, in what way is the EU "Keeping Russia under control"? Are you not aware of the existence of the USA, NATO, Reagan/Gorbachev?
Of course, when Kim Jong posits a scenario of negotiations including "27 enormous economies (of which only one is bigger than ours), manufacturing nations (again, only one bigger than us)" then we can fairly quickly see he hadn't got a clue...
Edited by Sway on Tuesday 17th January 18:08
KimJongHealthy said:
andymadmak said:
KimJongHealthy said:
Nissan is building them in Britain for the duty-free access to the EU market.
Guess what's going to happen with Nissan factory when Britain leaves the duty-free common market?
According to recent Nissan announcements it's going to be building more cars here...Guess what's going to happen with Nissan factory when Britain leaves the duty-free common market?
Or you could point to a single manufacturing plant that averages above 98% efficiency. Other than Nissan Sunderland.
Good luck with both of those. You do realise that NS is so efficient they export to Japan?
wc98 said:
don4l said:
Brexit apparently means "Brexit".
Who'd a thunk it?
don4l between your share advice post referendum and your prediction of what would happen in relation to the type of brexit , ie leaving single market, i think you should be renamed "mystic don". keep polishing that crystal ball !Who'd a thunk it?
KimJongHealthy said:
powerstroke said:
KimJongHealthy said:
Nissan is building them in Britain for the duty-free access to the EU market.
Guess what's going to happen with Nissan factory when Britain leaves the duty-free common market?
we don't buy many cars here in the uk look round at all the worn out old heaps , Nah no market for cars apart from Guess what's going to happen with Nissan factory when Britain leaves the duty-free common market?
across the channel japan, OZ ,NZ and south africa won't want any either or brazil india USA Canada etc no market for cars outside the EU
Yes our factories will be shut down over night
We can sell cakes to 30 people who want cakes but don't make any themselves or we can sell cakes to people who make there own cakes and sell us more than we do !!!
we IMPORT 80% of our cars !!!! fail !!! Next ????
don4l said:
wc98 said:
don4l said:
Brexit apparently means "Brexit".
Who'd a thunk it?
don4l between your share advice post referendum and your prediction of what would happen in relation to the type of brexit , ie leaving single market, i think you should be renamed "mystic don". keep polishing that crystal ball !Who'd a thunk it?
Mind you, Jimboka is still adamant we won't be leaving
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