Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
Discussion
blindswelledrat said:
Thank you. As much as I argue on this thread I am the first to admit it if I am wrong. I don't understand the mentality of making a mistake and refusing to admit it to the point you are arguing black is white just to avoid......I don't actually know.
It might just not have clicked. There may not have been anything malicious about it. It's easily done 
Disastrous said:
Of what? You make zero sense. I'm fully cognisant that Brexit will take place. You seem to be stuck between claiming that any old s
t would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean.
I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
I am merely repeating what has already been said. If we cannot negotiate a deal with the EU, we will walk away without one. t would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean. I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
Everybody wants a good deal, but if we can't get one with them there won't be one. I'm not sure how much simpler it can be put. Perhaps Brexit means Brexit would help?
Perhaps this might help:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
bmw535i said:
Disastrous said:
Of what? You make zero sense. I'm fully cognisant that Brexit will take place. You seem to be stuck between claiming that any old st would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean.
I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
I am merely repeating what has already been said. If we cannot negotiate a deal with the EU, we will walk away without one. t would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean. I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
Everybody wants a good deal, but if we can't get one with them there won't be one. I'm not sure how much simpler it can be put. Perhaps Brexit means Brexit would help?
Perhaps this might help:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
Mrr T said:
You have to love what seems to be the May governments new negotiating strategy.
It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
Mrr T said:
bmw535i said:
Disastrous said:
Of what? You make zero sense. I'm fully cognisant that Brexit will take place. You seem to be stuck between claiming that any old st would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean.
I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
I am merely repeating what has already been said. If we cannot negotiate a deal with the EU, we will walk away without one. t would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean. I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
Everybody wants a good deal, but if we can't get one with them there won't be one. I'm not sure how much simpler it can be put. Perhaps Brexit means Brexit would help?
Perhaps this might help:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
Mrr T said:
You have to love what seems to be the May governments new negotiating strategy.
It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
The worrying thing is that the logic seems to convince some.It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
No deal is a terrible deal. Most people know this, and know that this as a BATNA is a busted flush/bluff. We're blowing all our heads off.
I see Nissan is saying "err, hang on a minute Mrs, you promised......"
Mrr T said:
bmw535i said:
Disastrous said:
Of what? You make zero sense. I'm fully cognisant that Brexit will take place. You seem to be stuck between claiming that any old st would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean.
I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
I am merely repeating what has already been said. If we cannot negotiate a deal with the EU, we will walk away without one. t would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean. I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
Everybody wants a good deal, but if we can't get one with them there won't be one. I'm not sure how much simpler it can be put. Perhaps Brexit means Brexit would help?
Perhaps this might help:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
That's it to a T.
In fairness, I think what we're seeing from May and consequently BMW 535 is the slow realisation that they've f
ked it, hence the need to try and spin 'no deal' as some kind of win. I think when you start trying to convince people that what happens when your plan fails is still pretty good, you've admitted to yourself that your plan will probably fail.Disastrous said:
That's it to a T.
In fairness, I think what we're seeing from May and consequently BMW 535 is the slow realisation that they've f
ked it, hence the need to try and spin 'no deal' as some kind of win. I think when you start trying to convince people that what happens when your plan fails is still pretty good, you've admitted to yourself that your plan will probably fail.Cue accusations of traitor and talking the country down.
Its as if some think the EU & its countries can't work out that "no deal" would be a disaster for the UK. Shhh! Don't tell em pike!
Disastrous said:
Mrr T said:
bmw535i said:
Disastrous said:
Of what? You make zero sense. I'm fully cognisant that Brexit will take place. You seem to be stuck between claiming that any old st would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean.
I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
I am merely repeating what has already been said. If we cannot negotiate a deal with the EU, we will walk away without one. t would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean. I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
Everybody wants a good deal, but if we can't get one with them there won't be one. I'm not sure how much simpler it can be put. Perhaps Brexit means Brexit would help?
Perhaps this might help:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
That's it to a T.
In fairness, I think what we're seeing from May and consequently BMW 535 is the slow realisation that they've f
ked it, hence the need to try and spin 'no deal' as some kind of win. I think when you start trying to convince people that what happens when your plan fails is still pretty good, you've admitted to yourself that your plan will probably fail.It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
bmw535i said:
Disastrous said:
Mrr T said:
bmw535i said:
Disastrous said:
Of what? You make zero sense. I'm fully cognisant that Brexit will take place. You seem to be stuck between claiming that any old st would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean.
I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
I am merely repeating what has already been said. If we cannot negotiate a deal with the EU, we will walk away without one. t would be better than the EU, and claiming that you want a good deal. Or something. You're so muddled that nobody really knows what you mean. I assume the gist of your position is that so long as we leave the EU, a return to feudalism would be palatable. Not in my name mate: I want the best for my country.
Everybody wants a good deal, but if we can't get one with them there won't be one. I'm not sure how much simpler it can be put. Perhaps Brexit means Brexit would help?
Perhaps this might help:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
It's a new version of the Russian roulette strategy. Except in the normal Russian roulette strategy you put a gun to the other sides head and say give us what we want or we shoot.
In the UK version the UK puts a gun to its own head and say give what we want or we shoot.
Very original. You have to admire the brexit buffoons.
That's it to a T.
In fairness, I think what we're seeing from May and consequently BMW 535 is the slow realisation that they've f
ked it, hence the need to try and spin 'no deal' as some kind of win. I think when you start trying to convince people that what happens when your plan fails is still pretty good, you've admitted to yourself that your plan will probably fail.It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
Therefore for me a vote to leave was to leave the EEC, single market (note: not free market - it's bloody expensive!) and the EU.
The UK gas always been a global player. Only the past 20 years have seen us become more protectionist and more isolated from the world. Europe is not the world.
bmw535i said:
None of this is anything new. Me, Donal and some of the other leave voters have known and said all along that no deal would be better than a bad one. To pretend you didn't know this is incredible, but then such hubris is common amongst remainers.
It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
So no deal and trading under WTO rules means a 5-7% fall in UK tax revenue. Where do you want to make the expenditure cuts? Or do you favour the 5p additional Brexit tax on all taxable income?It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
Mrr T said:
bmw535i said:
None of this is anything new. Me, Donal and some of the other leave voters have known and said all along that no deal would be better than a bad one. To pretend you didn't know this is incredible, but then such hubris is common amongst remainers.
It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
So no deal and trading under WTO rules means a 5-7% fall in UK tax revenue. Where do you want to make the expenditure cuts? Or do you favour the 5p additional Brexit tax on all taxable income?It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
How much cheaper are non EU imports?
How much further will my money go?
How much of a bloodbath will it be to EU if Treasure Island starts buying elsewhere.
Mrr T said:
bmw535i said:
None of this is anything new. Me, Donal and some of the other leave voters have known and said all along that no deal would be better than a bad one. To pretend you didn't know this is incredible, but then such hubris is common amongst remainers.
It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
So no deal and trading under WTO rules means a 5-7% fall in UK tax revenue. Where do you want to make the expenditure cuts? Or do you favour the 5p additional Brexit tax on all taxable income?It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
Mrr T said:
bmw535i said:
None of this is anything new. Me, Donal and some of the other leave voters have known and said all along that no deal would be better than a bad one. To pretend you didn't know this is incredible, but then such hubris is common amongst remainers.
It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
So no deal and trading under WTO rules means a 5-7% fall in UK tax revenue. Where do you want to make the expenditure cuts? Or do you favour the 5p additional Brexit tax on all taxable income?It's almost as bad as saying people who voted leave didn't know we'd leave the single market when all sides said we would. Get used to it fellas, we're out.
bmw535i said:
Though you know this is the Brexit thread, not the Trump one?
Disastrous said:
bmw535i said:
Though you know this is the Brexit thread, not the Trump one?
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