Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)

Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)

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Disastrous

10,089 posts

218 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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bmw535i said:
Disastrous said:
Well, it's not the only difference.

I wouldn't read a post that contains the words "I care a lot for my country" and take from it that the author hates the UK, for example.
I also have to take all your other posts into consideration smile
Then it genuinely saddens me that you're so blinkered you can't see that I care for the UK a lot. I disagree with you on what is best for it but I don't let my distaste for Farrage et al blind me to the possible upsides of Brexit, the way you let your hatred of Europe blind you to the potential benefits of staying in.

Hence I repeat, if Brexit must happen, I want it to be to the benefit of the UK.

W124

1,552 posts

139 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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I think the rise in inflation (which is a direct result of Brexit) may well intersect with imbalances in the economy in a spectacularly disastrous way. It is, without question, rising sharply. The effect of actually triggering A50 on the pound is an unknown. To make a judgement about a U-turn without this actually having happened seems a bit premature. It also seems odd to me to believe that May is driven by anything else other than the interests of her and her party. She is in a nightmare position. My humble opinion is that she is hoping the Commons and the Lords will do everything they can to delay A50 and take the heat of her. She is very, very clever indeed.

Pan Pan Pan

9,934 posts

112 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Any one knows that a good deal. and one likely to last is one where BOTH sides come out of it, with the sense they have got more or less (but in most cases not all of) what they wanted out of it.
A bad deal and one which cannot survive, is where one side take more off the other. Which exactly describes the bad deal the UK as whole has always had since it joined the EEC over 40 years ago. Consequently this is why the UK is now in the position of leaving the EU.
If membership had been good for the UK, (and by the UK, I mean the UK as a whole, NOT just the bits, that did manage to make something out of being in the EU) no one would be voting to leave it, but what those who want to stay in the EU don't seem to realize, is that whilst membership for may have been good for `them', it was less so, and in some cases a disastrous deal for the majority of the people in the UK, hence the majority vote to leave.
Those who want to remain don't seem to care if others in the UK are getting a bad deal, just so long as they can hold on to `their' good deal.
With the EU second largest net contributor of funds, and biggest single market for its goods heading for the door, it is as much in the EU`s interests to strike a good deal with the UK, as it is for the UK to strike a good deal with the UK. If anything other than this occurs, it just goes to confirm how arrogant, corrupt, and bullying the EU is. which just reinforces the decision for the UK to leave the EU even further.




B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Disastrous said:
Hence I repeat, if Brexit must happen, I want it to be to the benefit of the UK.
Is that benefit today, tomorrow, next month, a years time or at some point some time in several years time?

I ask because I don't believe we will see benefits short term but long term

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Disastrous said:
Then it genuinely saddens me that you're so blinkered you can't see that I care for the UK a lot. I disagree with you on what is best for it but I don't let my distaste for Farrage et al blind me to the possible upsides of Brexit, the way you let your hatred of Europe blind you to the potential benefits of staying in.

Hence I repeat, if Brexit must happen, I want it to be to the benefit of the UK.
There really is no need to be genuinely saddened by the opinion of a complete stranger on the internet. Go out and enjoy the weekend and stop being weird.

Carl_Manchester

12,240 posts

263 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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in my opinion inflation is actually a non-negotiatable requirement of the uk in order to help shift the national debt pile and keep consumer spending going.

moderate levels of inflation is something to be welcomed not feared. this is the opposite to somewhere like germany where inflation is economic kryptonite.



B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
Clearly everyone who voted to leave if I'm to understand Disastrous or perhaps I'm wrong

Ironic since the vote was to leave or remain in the EU - we can't really leave Europe unless there is some way of harnessing a large number of tugs and pulling the British Isles further away

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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B'stard Child said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
Clearly everyone who voted to leave if I'm to understand Disastrous or perhaps I'm wrong

Ironic since the vote was to leave or remain in the EU - we can't really leave Europe unless there is some way of harnessing a large number of tugs and pulling the British Isles further away
But what about the tunnel? It's not like one of those slinky things you know.

B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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alfie2244 said:
B'stard Child said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
Clearly everyone who voted to leave if I'm to understand Disastrous or perhaps I'm wrong

Ironic since the vote was to leave or remain in the EU - we can't really leave Europe unless there is some way of harnessing a large number of tugs and pulling the British Isles further away
But what about the tunnel? It's not like one of those slinky things you know.
You think the tug thing would work?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
alfie2244 said:
But what about the tunnel? It's not like one of those slinky things you know.
We could re-route it back again,sort of a u-turn.
Sort of like you have to stop the smell coming out of the toilet?

B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
B'stard Child said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
Clearly everyone who voted to leave if I'm to understand Disastrous or perhaps I'm wrong

Ironic since the vote was to leave or remain in the EU - we can't really leave Europe unless there is some way of harnessing a large number of tugs and pulling the British Isles further away
We could lose some of Kent to the sea? That would be cheaper?
Major region of the UK for Hop growing - our beer would suffer although clearly we'd still have Herefordshire and Worcestershire

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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B'stard Child said:
alfie2244 said:
B'stard Child said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
Clearly everyone who voted to leave if I'm to understand Disastrous or perhaps I'm wrong

Ironic since the vote was to leave or remain in the EU - we can't really leave Europe unless there is some way of harnessing a large number of tugs and pulling the British Isles further away
But what about the tunnel? It's not like one of those slinky things you know.
You think the tug thing would work?
As long as they have passed the emissions test and are carbon neutral.where would the tow ropes be tied.....around Dover castle and Dungey lighthouse?

B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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alfie2244 said:
B'stard Child said:
alfie2244 said:
B'stard Child said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
Clearly everyone who voted to leave if I'm to understand Disastrous or perhaps I'm wrong

Ironic since the vote was to leave or remain in the EU - we can't really leave Europe unless there is some way of harnessing a large number of tugs and pulling the British Isles further away
But what about the tunnel? It's not like one of those slinky things you know.
You think the tug thing would work?
As long as they have passed the emissions test and are carbon neutral.where would the tow ropes be tied.....around Dover castle and Dungey lighthouse?
Ahhhh depends on where you want to move it.....

Some mountains in Scotland would make good anchor posts

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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B'stard Child said:
alfie2244 said:
B'stard Child said:
alfie2244 said:
B'stard Child said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
Clearly everyone who voted to leave if I'm to understand Disastrous or perhaps I'm wrong

Ironic since the vote was to leave or remain in the EU - we can't really leave Europe unless there is some way of harnessing a large number of tugs and pulling the British Isles further away
But what about the tunnel? It's not like one of those slinky things you know.
You think the tug thing would work?
As long as they have passed the emissions test and are carbon neutral.where would the tow ropes be tied.....around Dover castle and Dungey lighthouse?
Ahhhh depends on where you want to move it.....

Some mountains in Scotland would make good anchor posts
Can't we leave them where they are? Wee Jimmy Cranky might get.......well cranky.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
alfie2244 said:
As long as they have passed the emissions test and are carbon neutral.where would the tow ropes be tied.....around Dover castle and Dungey lighthouse?
Depends where we're going...
Join it up with Gib will do me.

Disastrous

10,089 posts

218 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
I think quite clearly bmw535, from my post...

B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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alfie2244 said:
B'stard Child said:
Ahhhh depends on where you want to move it.....

Some mountains in Scotland would make good anchor posts
Can't we leave them where they are? Wee Jimmy Cranky might get.......well cranky.
Good point - I'd already forgotten that "turdyn" wasn't so keen to leave but she hasn't mentioned the other R word for a few days she might getting over it

B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Disastrous said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Disastrous said:
But you don't actually think it is me. Good.

Now we've passed that, my position is pretty clear. I care a lot for my country and if we must Brexit, then I want it to be to our benefit, not our detriment.

I think it is traitorous to let your hatred of Europe overcome your concern for your country's wellbeing. Shouting "Brexit means Brexit" like a huffing simpleton doth butter no parsnips, I'm afraid. Brexit could take many different shapes depending on how these negotiations pan out, but unlike you, I don't think we should just give up and walk away with nothing if things get tough.
Who hates Europe?
I think quite clearly bmw535, from my post...
What all of it - France, Germany, Spain, Greece, Italy and a whole bunch more - you think he hates them all?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
alfie2244 said:
Join it up with Gib will do me.
Gaps not big enough.
Falklands are too cold for me...do we have any warmer (not too warm) Sovereign places we could moor up to?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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alfie2244 said:
Falklands are too cold for me...do we have any warmer (not too warm) Sovereign places we could moor up to?
Turks and Caicos?

Fits with the new economic policies as well.