Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
Discussion
Dr Jekyll said:
///ajd said:
So it seems the horses
t no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
So you reckon that even if the best deal on offer is something like £100bn a year into the EU coffers for ever more and no FTA even that would be preferable to reverting to WTO?t no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
£100Bn/year? Not even the biggest liar ever put that on a bus.
Any transitional deal would likely be less than now, though with less say.
It'll be a worse deal than now, but not as bad as WTO.
///ajd said:
So it seems the horsest no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
The Guardians always right!t no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
I see ///ajd is still on a pay per link deal
Elysium said:
I agree. For months the biggest risk to Brexit has been the hardcore Tory Brexiteers. However, the abject capitulation of labour has left them in control, for now.
Indeed. The bigger worry is that Corbyn is holding on as he sees the tories - even though in many ways are more competent than labour - will fudge brexit so badly he is in with a shot. Brexit could destroy the tories quite easily. And the a labour govt under corbyn could destroy the country. Feels like a low risk now, but what if the tories implode?
///ajd said:
Elysium said:
I agree. For months the biggest risk to Brexit has been the hardcore Tory Brexiteers. However, the abject capitulation of labour has left them in control, for now.
Indeed. The bigger worry is that Corbyn is holding on as he sees the tories - even though in many ways are more competent than labour - will fudge brexit so badly he is in with a shot. Brexit could destroy the tories quite easily. And the a labour govt under corbyn could destroy the country. Feels like a low risk now, but what if the tories implode?
This question malarkey is a piece of purse.
///ajd said:
No deal will be a disaster.
£100Bn/year? Not even the biggest liar ever put that on a bus.
Any transitional deal would likely be less than now, though with less say.
It'll be a worse deal than now, but not as bad as WTO.
Why would it be better than WTO if we don't have WTO as an option? If we are obliged to accept whatever deal is offered there is nothing to stop them demanding £100bn a year, or £200bn.£100Bn/year? Not even the biggest liar ever put that on a bus.
Any transitional deal would likely be less than now, though with less say.
It'll be a worse deal than now, but not as bad as WTO.
I'm not sure any deal could be better than WTO, it could certainly be worse.
FN2TypeR said:
turbobloke said:
What if they don't?
This question malarkey is a piece of purse.
What if the world doesn't end after Brexit and things amble on, fair to middling?This question malarkey is a piece of purse.
FN2TypeR said:
Clegg says so.
Clegg, what an item.Clegg pledges to crack down on tax avoidance after hiring Sir Philip Green as an efficiency adviser. Blair likes complex corporate structures for his business affairs and a low tax bill.
These two clowns ought to go in for entertaining children, writing a book for kiddies would keep them out of the limelight and off our TV screens for a while. The book would begin "Once upon a time in a tax haven far far away..."
Corbyn could do the illustrations for other Labour MPs to colour in.
turbobloke said:
Clegg, what an item.
Clegg pledgea to crack down on tax avoidance after hiring Sir Philip Green as an efficiency adviser. Blair likes complex corporate structures for his business affairs and a low tax bill.
These two clowns ought to go in for entertaining children, writing a book for kiddies would keep them out of the limelight and off our TV screens for a while. The book would begin "Once upon a time in a tax haven far far away..."
He's ace the old Clegger, he trashed the Lib Dems so he's alright in my book.Clegg pledgea to crack down on tax avoidance after hiring Sir Philip Green as an efficiency adviser. Blair likes complex corporate structures for his business affairs and a low tax bill.
These two clowns ought to go in for entertaining children, writing a book for kiddies would keep them out of the limelight and off our TV screens for a while. The book would begin "Once upon a time in a tax haven far far away..."
FN2TypeR said:
turbobloke said:
Clegg, what an item.
Clegg pledgea to crack down on tax avoidance after hiring Sir Philip Green as an efficiency adviser. Blair likes complex corporate structures for his business affairs and a low tax bill.
These two clowns ought to go in for entertaining children, writing a book for kiddies would keep them out of the limelight and off our TV screens for a while. The book would begin "Once upon a time in a tax haven far far away..."
He's ace the old Clegger, he trashed the Lib Dems so he's alright in my book.Clegg pledgea to crack down on tax avoidance after hiring Sir Philip Green as an efficiency adviser. Blair likes complex corporate structures for his business affairs and a low tax bill.
These two clowns ought to go in for entertaining children, writing a book for kiddies would keep them out of the limelight and off our TV screens for a while. The book would begin "Once upon a time in a tax haven far far away..."
turbobloke said:
FN2TypeR said:
turbobloke said:
Clegg, what an item.
Clegg pledgea to crack down on tax avoidance after hiring Sir Philip Green as an efficiency adviser. Blair likes complex corporate structures for his business affairs and a low tax bill.
These two clowns ought to go in for entertaining children, writing a book for kiddies would keep them out of the limelight and off our TV screens for a while. The book would begin "Once upon a time in a tax haven far far away..."
He's ace the old Clegger, he trashed the Lib Dems so he's alright in my book.Clegg pledgea to crack down on tax avoidance after hiring Sir Philip Green as an efficiency adviser. Blair likes complex corporate structures for his business affairs and a low tax bill.
These two clowns ought to go in for entertaining children, writing a book for kiddies would keep them out of the limelight and off our TV screens for a while. The book would begin "Once upon a time in a tax haven far far away..."
Off of the top of my head between 2010 and 2015 they lost
11 MEPs
47 MPs
11 MSPs
6AMs
Hundreds and hundreds of local councillors
And then they eneded up with loser Farron in charge, who, despite banging the Brexit is bad drum this last nine months has moved from about 8% in the polls to about 10% in the polls,
confused_buyer said:
///ajd said:
So it seems the horsest no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
In private, both the UK and EU recognise that a crash out would be bad for both of them. Before any negotiation, either side usually postures and bluffs, why should this be any different?t no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
They all want a deal, who will be perceived as having got the best deal will be down to who blinks first.
FN2TypeR said:
And then they eneded up with loser Farron in charge, who, despite banging the Brexit is bad drum this last nine months has moved from about 8% in the polls to about 10% in the polls,
That was also an excellemt move from the Lib Dems, putting Farron in charge.Every time a discussion crops up involving Party leaders, it takes ages to remember his name, if it ever happens. Instantly forgettable and almost as useless and out of touch as Clegg.
don'tbesilly said:
///ajd said:
So it seems the horsest no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
The Guardians always right!t no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
I see ///ajd is still on a pay per link deal
chris watton said:
That's ///ajd, it must be !Given the protests and legal machinations which arose after the 2016 referendum on remaining in, or leaving the EU, it is quite possible that the way the UK was taken into the EU was illegal.
No one in the UK had, or was given the chance to vote on whether or not they wanted the UK to be a member of the EU.
The UK was given a vote on whether or not they wanted to join a European trading bloc known as the EEC.
The EEC changed itself into the EU, which was a completely different construct in 1993. I don't know how long has to pass before legislation can no longer be challenged, but if there is no time limit, it would seem there might be good reason to launch a legal action against the way the UK was drawn into the EU, without giving the UK citizen a vote on the matter.
No one in the UK had, or was given the chance to vote on whether or not they wanted the UK to be a member of the EU.
The UK was given a vote on whether or not they wanted to join a European trading bloc known as the EEC.
The EEC changed itself into the EU, which was a completely different construct in 1993. I don't know how long has to pass before legislation can no longer be challenged, but if there is no time limit, it would seem there might be good reason to launch a legal action against the way the UK was drawn into the EU, without giving the UK citizen a vote on the matter.
Mrr T said:
confused_buyer said:
///ajd said:
So it seems the horsest no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
In private, both the UK and EU recognise that a crash out would be bad for both of them. Before any negotiation, either side usually postures and bluffs, why should this be any different?t no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
They all want a deal, who will be perceived as having got the best deal will be down to who blinks first.
You should be just as concerned that your cheerleader for the last 9 months, Clegg, doesn't even understand the difference between membership of and access to, the SM. Really, 9 months and he doesn't understand that, how low is that guys IQ? And he is one of your top men.
Mrr T said:
confused_buyer said:
///ajd said:
So it seems the horsest no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
In private, both the UK and EU recognise that a crash out would be bad for both of them. Before any negotiation, either side usually postures and bluffs, why should this be any different?t no deal bluff was indeed a horsest no deal bluff.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/28/b...
That makes Davis look slick and in control. Oh dear.
These Brexiteers are making Thatchers handling of the Polltax look smooth with wide & comprehensive stakeholder buy in.....
They all want a deal, who will be perceived as having got the best deal will be down to who blinks first.
What DD actually said was that they're working on how best to mitigate the effects of no deal along with what would be best from a deal PoV and when they have that *then* they will be able to provide a forecast.
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