Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
Discussion
Mrr T said:
Initial EU response to Art 50 drafted (summarised by Guardian):The EU chamber’s general principles for the coming talks include that:
- a future relationship agreement between the European union and the UK “can only be concluded once the United Kingdom has withdrawn from the EU”.
- there may be a transitional deal for after 2019 to ensure that custom controls and barriers on trade are not enforced on day one of Brexit, but that these arrangements should not exceed three years and will be “limited in scope as they can never be a substitute for union membership”.
- the European court of justice will be responsible for settling any legal challenges during the transition period.
- the UK will be able to revoke its notification of article 50 but this must be “subject to conditions set by all EU27 so they cannot be used as a procedural device or abused in an attempt to improve the actual terms of the United Kingdom’s membership”.
- should Britain seek to negotiate any free trade deals with other countries while it is still an EU member state, there will be no future discussion of a deal with the union.
- there will be no special deal for the City of London “providing UK-based undertakings preferential access to the single market and, or the customs union”.
the cut-off date after which EU nationals coming to the UK lose the automatic right to residency in the UK must not be before 29 March 2019, when the country leaves the EU, or the British government will be breaking EU law.
- Britain should pay all its liabilities “arising from outstanding commitments as well as make provision for off-balance sheet items, contingent liabilities and other financial costs that arise directly as a result of its withdrawal”.
- the outcome of the negotiations on the future EU-UK relationship “cannot involve any trade-off between internal and external security including defence cooperation, on the one hand, and the future economic relationship, on the other hand”.
Mrr T said:
Talk about having fingers in pies ..From Wiki:-
"The Institute for Government is a UK based independent think tank which aims to improve government effectiveness through research and analysis, it was founded as a charity in 2008.[1] It was initially funded with approximately £15 million by the Gatsby Charitable Foundation, at the instigation of Lord Sainsbury.[2]"
Tabloids:-
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/704328/Lord-Sains...
Mrr T said:
headed up by Lord Sainsbury of TurvilleHis donation total more than £8m to pro-Remain groups ahead of the vote, that is more than Banks gave to UKip.!
Research my arse, that is a pressure group
Stickyfinger said:
Mrr T said:
headed up by Lord Sainsbury of TurvilleHis donation total more than £8m to pro-Remain groups ahead of the vote, that is more than Banks gave to UKip.!
Research my arse, that is a pressure group
Another pressure group who seem to be repeating much of what I have posted on PH.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/commi...
Mrr T said:
You have to love team leave. You provide a link to a site with some interesting comments on brexit and the process. Rather than read the site and comment on it. They find out its funded by someone who supported remain and they can dismiss it as a pressure group. I suppose it does mean they can avoid the hard work of thinking.
Another pressure group who seem to be repeating much of what I have posted on PH.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/commi...
WRONG, I am reading some of it, but better warned of bias beforehand so you can pre check the provenance of the information/estimates put forward.Another pressure group who seem to be repeating much of what I have posted on PH.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/commi...
Nice try but typical of the thinking we who voted out are uninformed.
Stickyfinger said:
Mrr T said:
You have to love team leave. You provide a link to a site with some interesting comments on brexit and the process. Rather than read the site and comment on it. They find out its funded by someone who supported remain and they can dismiss it as a pressure group. I suppose it does mean they can avoid the hard work of thinking.
Another pressure group who seem to be repeating much of what I have posted on PH.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/commi...
WRONG, I am reading some of it, but better warned of bias beforehand so you can pre check the provenance of the information/estimates put forward.Another pressure group who seem to be repeating much of what I have posted on PH.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/commi...
Nice try but typical of the thinking we who voted out are uninformed.
I have just posted on another tread a link to the sites explanation of the EU divorce bill. It’s well written, clear, and does not seem to contain any obvious baisis.
have a nice day all .Mrr T said:
williamp said:
Thats it. Close the thred! "No turning back. Britian is leaving the EU" Theresa May. March 29th 2017.
Donald Trump “I will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it”.Much water to pass under the bridge until we actually leave.
B'stard Child said:
Mrr T said:
williamp said:
Thats it. Close the thred! "No turning back. Britian is leaving the EU" Theresa May. March 29th 2017.
Donald Trump “I will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it”.Much water to pass under the bridge until we actually leave.
UK is a glowing warm island off the edge of a cold and dark Europe. It was called the land of angels by the Romans for a reason.
jsf said:
A large percentage of our water comes from the Gulf of Mexico, hence why the UK is a much warmer climate than mainland Europe in winter. It's why RAF Lossiemouth is where it is also.
Ta for the QI broadcast 
jsf said:
UK is a glowing warm island off the edge of a cold and dark Europe. It was called the land of angels by the Romans for a reason.
They liked our women???jsf said:
A large percentage of our water comes from the Gulf of Mexico, hence why the UK is a much warmer climate than mainland Europe in winter. It's why RAF Lossiemouth is where it is also.
UK is a glowing warm island off the edge of a cold and dark Europe. It was called the land of angels by the Romans for a reason.
I assume the post is a joke and just not very funny.UK is a glowing warm island off the edge of a cold and dark Europe. It was called the land of angels by the Romans for a reason.
Mrr T said:
jsf said:
A large percentage of our water comes from the Gulf of Mexico, hence why the UK is a much warmer climate than mainland Europe in winter. It's why RAF Lossiemouth is where it is also.
UK is a glowing warm island off the edge of a cold and dark Europe. It was called the land of angels by the Romans for a reason.
I assume the post is a joke and just not very funny.UK is a glowing warm island off the edge of a cold and dark Europe. It was called the land of angels by the Romans for a reason.
Not a personal remark.
turbobloke said:
Mrr T said:
jsf said:
A large percentage of our water comes from the Gulf of Mexico, hence why the UK is a much warmer climate than mainland Europe in winter. It's why RAF Lossiemouth is where it is also.
UK is a glowing warm island off the edge of a cold and dark Europe. It was called the land of angels by the Romans for a reason.
I assume the post is a joke and just not very funny.UK is a glowing warm island off the edge of a cold and dark Europe. It was called the land of angels by the Romans for a reason.
Not a personal remark.
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