45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.

[Stickyfinger]

don4l said:

For those of you who missed C4's news last night, here is a link to the superb interview that Jon Snow did with Michael Moore:-

https://www.channel4.com/news/michael-moore-on-tru...

The funny thing is that both Trump supporters and Trump opponents will get equal pleasure from the clip.

\he really should learn about aggregate scores in sports if he is trying that. .....dumb.

[968]

Stickyfinger said:

Not at all
but:
Please show me where I said I liked him or thought he was anything other than dreadful.

I never said as such but await your criticism of his behaviour and await you calling him a whiny snowflake, or whatever cretinous insult has been invented by the alt right.

[968]

johnxjsc1985 said:

did you see him speaking?

Yes I did see him interviewed. Your point?

[turbobloke]

Stickyfinger said:

968 said:

Ooooh touchy. I haven't seen you criticise his inability to control his whiny behaviour but have been quick to criticise his opponents.

Not at all
but:
Please show me where I said I liked him or thought he was anything other than dreadful.

ISWYM, there's a lot of sloppy wishful thinking like that in illiberal circles at the moment, but I reckon he's at least one notch better than dreadful - he managed to keep Billary out of the White House.

He's also bringing out the nanny staters, the big gov't teat sucklers and lots of those in the tolerant left with an empty social diary.

OK a few notches above...

Edited by turbobloke on Saturday 21st January 18:15

[968]

turbobloke said:

ISWYM, there's a lot of sloppy wishful thinking like that in illiberal circles at the moment, but I reckon he's at least one notch better than dreadful - he managed to keep Billary out of the White House.

Turbobingo! Illiberal and Billary in one post! More cliches please.

[Gandahar]

Just heard that my wife's friend has "gone on a march in London" and also one of my daughters friends mother. What? Can you imagine americans going on a march if we put Tony Blair back in power again? No me neither.

We need to be marching for things closer to home, we have big changes here, unless people have not noticed.

I'm not a fan of President Trump as a person, but as POTUS he has to be given a chance to show he can do what he was elected for, and that is $$$ increase for middle class US folk.

[turbobloke]

968 said:

turbobloke said:

ISWYM, there's a lot of sloppy wishful thinking like that in illiberal circles at the moment, but I reckon he's at least one notch better than dreadful - he managed to keep Billary out of the White House.

Turbobingo! Illiberal and Billary in one post! More cliches please.

Sure. Your posts for starters - getting things arse about face, me-tooing with other desolate types, knee-jerking, sore losering, whiny petulance, lots of clichéd angles to choose from.

Only 4 years of President Trump to go, that said do keep some of the monotonous lowbrow stuff in reserve as it might be 8 years

[anonymous-user]

Stickyfinger said:

don4l said:

For those of you who missed C4's news last night, here is a link to the superb interview that Jon Snow did with Michael Moore:-

https://www.channel4.com/news/michael-moore-on-tru...

The funny thing is that both Trump supporters and Trump opponents will get equal pleasure from the clip.

\he really should learn about aggregate scores in sports if he is trying that. .....dumb.

He is trying to make a point to a guy from a country that elects all its governments by a similar system to the electoral college, constituency MP's. The government and PM has certainly never received more than 49% of the vote since WW2. In our latest election the government received 36.9% of the vote.

What he really wants is a figure head, head of state and all the power residing in the two houses, you know, like the UK has with its monarchy and parliament. They seem to have rejected that model during the war of independence though.

[turbobloke]

Gandahar said:

Just heard that my wife's friend has "gone on a march in London" and also one of my daughters friends mother. What? Can you imagine americans going on a march if we put Tony Blair back in power again? No me neither.

We need to be marching for things closer to home, we have big changes here, unless people have not noticed.

I'm not a fan of President Trump as a person, but as POTUS he has to be given a chance to show he can do what he was elected for, and that is $$$ increase for middle class US folk.

In principle - but there's work to be done on both sides of the pond and marching is best left to troops.

It identifies civvy marchers as armchair revolutionaries with virtual nose rings, being led on a chain jerked by self-interested political activists some of which are in the media.

Totally agree about it coming down to politics not personalities and the results will be clear down the line just as Obama's many failures are clear.

If Trump doesn't stump up on the promises he should be booted out, though hopefully not by some token wife because it's her turn.

[968]

turbobloke said:

Sure. Your posts for starters - getting things arse about face, me-tooing with other desolate types, knee-jerking, sore losering, whiny petulance, lots of clichéd angles to choose from.

Only 4 years of President Trump to go, that said do keep some of the monotonous lowbrow stuff in reserve as it might be 8 years

Ooh touched a nerve eh? No turbostats to quote?

How funny it's ehiny petulance from them but Trumps twitterings are the very height of maturity. 4 years? I think he will be lucky to get through one before he's impeached for corruption.

[Stickyfinger]

jsf said:

Stickyfinger said:

don4l said:

For those of you who missed C4's news last night, here is a link to the superb interview that Jon Snow did with Michael Moore:-

https://www.channel4.com/news/michael-moore-on-tru...

The funny thing is that both Trump supporters and Trump opponents will get equal pleasure from the clip.

\he really should learn about aggregate scores in sports if he is trying that. .....dumb.

He is trying to make a point to a guy from a country that elects all its governments by a similar system to the electoral college, constituency MP's. The government and PM has certainly never received more than 49% of the vote since WW2. In our latest election the government received 36.9% of the vote.

What he really wants is a figure head, head of state and all the power residing in the two houses, you know, like the UK has with its monarchy and parliament. They seem to have rejected that model during the war of independence though.

OK, the latest vote in the UK was One "person" one vote.....the result was endless wailing and denial of that type of democracy by the same ilLibrial types.

[anonymous-user]

Stickyfinger said:

jsf said:

Stickyfinger said:

don4l said:

For those of you who missed C4's news last night, here is a link to the superb interview that Jon Snow did with Michael Moore:-

https://www.channel4.com/news/michael-moore-on-tru...

The funny thing is that both Trump supporters and Trump opponents will get equal pleasure from the clip.

\he really should learn about aggregate scores in sports if he is trying that. .....dumb.

He is trying to make a point to a guy from a country that elects all its governments by a similar system to the electoral college, constituency MP's. The government and PM has certainly never received more than 49% of the vote since WW2. In our latest election the government received 36.9% of the vote.

What he really wants is a figure head, head of state and all the power residing in the two houses, you know, like the UK has with its monarchy and parliament. They seem to have rejected that model during the war of independence though.

OK, the latest vote in the UK was One "person" one vote.....the result was endless wailing and denial of that type of democracy by the same ilLibrial types.

The left always moan when they lose.

Moore has a good point about the "other side". They wont spend years pontificating about a policy change and how some people will be upset by that. They will just get on with it. The next week you are going to see one hell of a lot of change of policy.

[don4l]

I'm surprised that the huge anti-Trump demonstration in Reading last night hasn't made the headlines.

Does anyone know how many people joined the greenie mad woman on her march?

[968]

jsf said:

The left always moan when they lose.

Moore has a good point about the "other side". They wont spend years pontificating about a policy change and how some people will be upset by that. They will just get on with it. The next week you are going to see one hell of a lot of change of policy.

Oh I see. The right never moan of course. I mean the whole birther movement was just a laugh wasn't it? It wasn't moaning at all about the legitimacy of the elected president...

[Gandahar]

If you compare Foxnews, CNN and BBC front news pages BBC has really gone to down on it and more than matches CNN.

I normally defend BBC against too many right wing biased comments on here, but with Trump I just think they cannot be neutral and sub-consciously want to see the "down side"

Give the guy a chance before we all pelt him with stones or at least say, " I told you so"

To quote the Python ....

BRIAN: Why aren't women allowed go to stonings, Mum?
MANDY: It's written. That's why.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Pssst! Beard, madam?


https://youtu.be/ffwFXGPRDu4?t=97

Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 21st January 18:52

[Ace-T]

Haven't found it in this thread yet (so sorry if a repeat) but it amuses me greatly that we can now officially refer to the good ol' US of A as Trumpton.

Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grub!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6YE4PCRNwc




Ah, found it, back in November, sorry!

...still makes me chuckle though.

Edited by Ace-T on Saturday 21st January 19:14

[ThunderGuts]

968 said:

jsf said:

The left always moan when they lose.

Moore has a good point about the "other side". They wont spend years pontificating about a policy change and how some people will be upset by that. They will just get on with it. The next week you are going to see one hell of a lot of change of policy.

Oh I see. The right never moan of course. I mean the whole birther movement was just a laugh wasn't it? It wasn't moaning at all about the legitimacy of the elected president...

Slightly different in scale...

[anonymous-user]

968 said:

jsf said:

The left always moan when they lose.

Moore has a good point about the "other side". They wont spend years pontificating about a policy change and how some people will be upset by that. They will just get on with it. The next week you are going to see one hell of a lot of change of policy.

Oh I see. The right never moan of course. I mean the whole birther movement was just a laugh wasn't it? It wasn't moaning at all about the legitimacy of the elected president...

Every side moans, the left win on scale of moaning by quite some margin.

If you believe in Democracy, you should accept he is the President and work towards your goals for the next occasion you get to vote.

[Jasandjules]

rscott said:

I'm more concerned by some of his potential appointments to his cabinet - an education secretary who thinks some schools may need guns to protect them against bears, for example

Um, my school did in the 1980s. And also school trips to the mountains meant teachers had a rifle at least with one carrying a shotgun just in case.. Ever had a grizzly bear outside your chalet whilst 20 kids are stuck inside? If not, then perhaps you are not in a position to judge?

[Stickyfinger]

Jasandjules said:

rscott said:

I'm more concerned by some of his potential appointments to his cabinet - an education secretary who thinks some schools may need guns to protect them against bears, for example

Um, my school did in the 1980s. And also school trips to the mountains meant teachers had a rifle at least with one carrying a shotgun just in case.. Ever had a grizzly bear outside your chalet whilst 20 kids are stuck inside? If not, then perhaps you are not in a position to judge?

We have attack Rabbits in the UK. Dangerous buggers, nasty sharp teeth