45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.

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walm

10,609 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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turbobloke said:
walm said:
turbobloke said:
The Nobel Prize for doing nothing with a dark skin tone has cemented his place in history as one of the people who got a sham prize for being there at the right time.
Which he freely admits.
Imagine how Trump would have reacted to getting one for no reason!
Am I judging it on how profound the reation might or might not be, or for entertainment value?

After all it wouldn't change the price of apple pie.
Entertainment value of course!
Something, I suspect, we can all agree on!

Jasandjules

69,825 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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turbobloke said:
The Nobel Prize for doing nothing with a dark skin tone has cemented his place in history as one of the people who got a sham prize for being there at the right time.
No for peace. Whilst bombing seven shades out of places.. Funny how the mind of a leftie "works"...

ETA - and I'd take Trump over Obama any day of the week - I have been waiting a long time for this AGW house of cards to come tumbling down - he may well make it happen.

Byker28i

58,831 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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I take it digga is ignoring the Republican policy of downvoting everything proposed by Obama for the last 4 years. Gain power at any cost, even if it means running the country down for 4 years, stalling everything in an attempt to make the administration look bad.

Now they've got that power but at what costs. Some are not comfortable with their leader

Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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jsf said:
Obama isn't the first black President, he is as white as he is black (if you wish to make any comments on the ethnicity of a President), his mother is white with predominantly English ancestry.
There was much made of his ethnicity though - it was celebrated, when he came to power, both at home and abroad.

Kawasicki

13,041 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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jsf said:
Obama isn't the first black President, he is as white as he is black (if you wish to make any comments on the ethnicity of a President), his mother is white with predominantly English ancestry.
RACIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSTTTTTTTT!

Am I doing this right?

hidetheelephants

23,755 posts

192 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Digga said:
Jockman said:
scherzkeks said:
Carter was, however, a good president. Unlike our current warmongering globalist shill. Had more people paid attention to Obama's actions rather than his words, I suspect his popularity would potentially be the lowest in history.
I liked Jimmy Carter. He was the first President I knew about as a kid, watching a black and white TV in the suburbs of Edinburgh.
The thing I liked about Carter was he was a farmer; okay, not necessarily rocket scientist, but at least he had a job and a life outside of politics.
He was a kettle driver in the USN, you don't get awarded a licence to operate a nuclear reactor if you're an idiot.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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This may have been covered, so I apologise if it has.

Trump doesn't like Chinese imports and wants to promote US manufacturing. How will US manufacturers compete if they can't make manufacture things without or with heavily tariffed Chinese made components?

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
This may have been covered, so I apologise if it has.

Trump doesn't like Chinese imports and wants to promote US manufacturing. How will US manufacturers compete if they can't make manufacture things without or with heavily tariffed Chinese made components?
Send him a tweet and ask him.


ChemicalChaos

10,360 posts

159 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
This may have been covered, so I apologise if it has.

Trump doesn't like Chinese imports and wants to promote US manufacturing. How will US manufacturers compete if they can't make manufacture things without or with heavily tariffed Chinese made components?
A lot of things are also made in Taiwan. Source the bits the US can't make from there to ensure maximum pissing off of the Chinese!

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

104 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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OR

Why should China export products that are subsidised by the state, owned by the army, poor pay, exploitation of the workers and environment, subsidised fuel rates, land grabbing, the lack of corporate law and theft of intellectual property and designs, monetary policy, carbon emission...etc etc

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

168 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
This may have been covered, so I apologise if it has.

Trump doesn't like Chinese imports and wants to promote US manufacturing. How will US manufacturers compete if they can't make manufacture things without or with heavily tariffed Chinese made components?
Mexican made components

Hosenbugler

1,854 posts

101 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
Digga said:
Jockman said:
scherzkeks said:
Carter was, however, a good president. Unlike our current warmongering globalist shill. Had more people paid attention to Obama's actions rather than his words, I suspect his popularity would potentially be the lowest in history.
I liked Jimmy Carter. He was the first President I knew about as a kid, watching a black and white TV in the suburbs of Edinburgh.
The thing I liked about Carter was he was a farmer; okay, not necessarily rocket scientist, but at least he had a job and a life outside of politics.
He was a kettle driver in the USN, you don't get awarded a licence to operate a nuclear reactor if you're an idiot.
Carter put the CRFA on the satute, the barking piece of legislation enacted eventually by Clinton, which forced Banks to lend on postcode, not ability to pay back. A key reason for the financial crisis and almost certainly a key incentive for Brown to enact the fiscally ruinous idiocy which he did. We, in the Uk, are still paying for Carter's idiocy.

Countdown

39,690 posts

195 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Digga said:
Disclaimer: I've read his articles before as well as other Zerohedge stuff and (in my opinion) they're on the whackjob fruitloop end of the scale. I'd be more than happy to look at the other links if you have them handy.

To give one example of why I think he's a fruitloop - he dismisses annual GDP growth of 2.5% since 2009 as "paltry". That's amongst the leading rates for a developed economy.

Countdown

39,690 posts

195 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Jasandjules said:
No for peace. Whilst bombing seven shades out of places.. Funny how the mind of a leftie "works"...
Much of that bombing was a direct result of his predecessors 2 wars. Short of a unilateral withdrawal from Afghanistan and Iraq there wasn't much that he could do. It's funny how the minds of frothers "work"

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Countdown said:
To give one example of why I think he's a fruitloop - he dismisses annual GDP growth of 2.5% since 2009 as "paltry". That's amongst the leading rates for a developed economy.
It's not Obama either, rallying after one of the worst declines in stock market history and then ZIRP/QE.

Carl_Manchester

12,103 posts

261 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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p1stonhead said:
All I see is the red line 10% up and the blue line nearly 25% up since he took office?
Digga is correct is in his assessment.

A few things have happened that Obama, whilst it was not his fault as his hands were tied, has accelerated.

Whilst U.S GDP has grown, a gradual snow-balling affect, which started well before Obama has continued apace and has now reached a point where it is now a real problem. The problem with the GDP measurements is that its not really a great yard-stick anymore, because in the USA those GDP increases are going to the top 1% and far less of it is making its way to the other 99%.

I will summarise some of the symptoms as follows:

a) a collapse in small business creation
b) a widening gap between income groups
c) an overall deterioration in the middle class.

One of the recent reports which really defined what many have been writing about for years is by the Harvard Business School and the following diagrams are taken from that report.

The report is called 'A Nation Divided & A Problem Un-Solved'.








anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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its the last Channel 4 news before the inauguration
I'm expecting solemn John Snow and DOOOM DOOOM DOOOM for 50 minutes

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Viva la revolución!

ChemicalChaos

10,360 posts

159 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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SO what do we think the chances are of something very big kicking off tomorrow as an attempt to disrupt the inauguration?

Wacky Racer

38,099 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Did anyone see the documentary about the Trump family on Channel 4 last night?

Extremely interesting, especially about his grandfather and father...

Well worth watching:-

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/meet-the-trumps...
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