45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.

[p1stonhead]

minimoog said:

Actually Spicer may be right about that crowd. You just need to look a bit closer...

[Countdown]

don4l said:

Here, we have the Queen.

Chances are that HRH Prince Charles will be along soon. That will be fun.

[paulguitar]

5ohmustang said:

p1stonhead said:

So was it the biggest crowd ever as claimed by Trump or did they not get there as you claim?

Had to edit this in order not to offend weak hearts.

Is it absolutely fascinating to see some the reaction to this. This is very little, or nothing, to do with the size of the crowds at the inaugurations. It is the fact that both Trump and his press secretary so blatantly lied about it, knowing they were lying, and knowing, surely, that they would be called out on it later. On their FIRST DAY!


Some of the reactions here from Trump apologists show that to attempt reason in any kind of ‘grown up’ way seems to be totally futile. My other half is a phycologist. I am going to show her this thread when she is awake later (she lives in NYC so 5 hours behind GMT) and ask her if there is a diagnosis for this.

[Funkycoldribena]

p1stonhead said:

I'm not having a meltdown just pointing how how similar to a fascist dictator trump is being. I'm not American I don't care. I feel sorry for the majority of Americans who didn't want him though

I think you're in denial along with a few others here.
Sometimes things don't go your way and you have to be grown up and accept it.
It's called being an adult.

[Stickyfinger]

p1stonhead said:

You claim you detest the man, so can you look objectively and agree that what he and Spicer have said is a downright lie and ridiculous?

1st...I have never said I detest the man. I said BOTH sides put forward dreadful candidates. WHY do you keep doing this, PLEASE, I ask you again to stop it.

2nd, Just to clear it up, I think Twitter is designed for children to chatter to each other, it is not a method of communication anybody with a vocabulary above a 5 year old should have any interest in using or trust to draw any conclusion from. WTF anybody, any candidate for office or any importance is using the format is beyond me. This goes for ALL sides. It ALSO goes for those who draw conclusions from.

3rd, it may be it maybe not be accurate, be that Trump's press staff and the crowds outside the White House, Tony Blair's Mass destruction weapons and the Clinton's definition of Sexual activity. As such, I do not fking care, but I would say Trump probably did not have those numbers HIMSELF.
I would think he was not the one counting them as he was a little busy at the time.
As an attempt to attach the responsibility directly upon him is an error and is done to gain an argumentative point which has a false base of "personal blame" for effect.

Edited by Stickyfinger on Sunday 22 January 09:16

[p1stonhead]

Funkycoldribena said:

p1stonhead said:

I'm not having a meltdown just pointing how how similar to a fascist dictator trump is being. I'm not American I don't care. I feel sorry for the majority of Americans who didn't want him though

I think you're in denial along with a few others here.
Sometimes things don't go your way and you have to be grown up and accept it.
It's called being an adult.

Denial?

So you think more people voted for him than Hillary?

Is that another Trump anti-fact?

[p1stonhead]

Stickyfinger said:

p1stonhead said:

You claim you detest the man, so can you look objectively and agree that what he and Spicer have said is a downright lie and ridiculous?

1st...I have never said I detest the man. I said BOTH sides put forward dreadful candidates. WHY do you keep doing this, PLEASE, I ask you again to stop it.

2nd, Just to clear it up, I think Twitter is designed for children to chatter to each other, it is not a method of communication anybody with a vocabulary above a 5 year old should have any interest in using or trust to draw any conclusion from. WTF anybody, any candidate for office or any importance is using the format is beyond me. This goes for ALL sides.

3rd, it may be it maybe not be accurate, be that Trump's press staff and the crowds outside the White House, Tony Blair's Mass destruction weapons and the Clinton's definition of Sexual activity. As such, I do not fking care, but I would say Trump probably did not have those numbers HIMSELF.
I would think he was not the one counting them as he was a little busy at the time.
As an attempt to attach the responsibility directly upon him is an error and is done to gain an argumentative point which has a false base of "personal blame" for effect.

'He is in charge of the country but don't hold him to account for his lies personally'

[Funkycoldribena]

p1stonhead said:

Denial?

So you think more people voted for him than Hillary?

Is that another Trump anti-fact?

Denial of a meltdown.

[xRIEx]

minimoog said:

Actually Spicer may be right about that crowd. You just need to look a bit closer...

[Derek Smith]

smifffymoto said:

That picture is not really a true representation though,Trumps supporters are not,in the main,Washington residents.They live hundreds or thousands of miles away,so did not make the journey.2009 was the first black President,the crowds will be bigger for the first women President and bigger still for the first black women President.

I think we need to wait and judge President Trump on his actions rather than the size of his crowd support.

You miss the point. The size of the crowd is of no importance. What matters is Trump's willingness, perhaps compulsion, to lie. Not only that, he is attempting to control the press. He press secretary refused to answer questions and instead made a statement, which was factually wrong. In future, will the press be as willing to go against the bloke in charge?

It was similar over here when the press reported on a relative of Ferguson and he refused to speak to the publication. He, like Trump, was trying to control the press, stating quite clearly that if you go against the official line, there will be problems for you.

A politician, especially Trump, saying that the press are all liars borders on hilarity.

The bloke appears to be a danger.

The point is not how big the crowds were. It's Trumps willingness to state a clear lie and then stop the press from questioning his representative about the lie which is the problem.

[don4l]

p1stonhead said:

desolate said:

p1stonhead said:

So you are this much of an awful person and not even American

Not born in the USA, but Hammersmith.

How patriotic of him. Must be wierd to so desperately want to be American.

I'm not that bothered about who the American president is.

I will admit that I do enjoy a bit of lefty anguish... I owe you a pint.

[p1stonhead]

don4l said:

p1stonhead said:

desolate said:

p1stonhead said:

So you are this much of an awful person and not even American

Not born in the USA, but Hammersmith.

How patriotic of him. Must be wierd to so desperately want to be American.

I'm not that bothered about who the American president is.

I will admit that I do enjoy a bit of lefty anguish... I owe you a pint.

I'm not a lefty actually in general. I just am baffled when people can defend awful people.

I think I'll skip the pint - I don't associate with sociopaths.

[jmorgan]

Derek Smith said:

smifffymoto said:

That picture is not really a true representation though,Trumps supporters are not,in the main,Washington residents.They live hundreds or thousands of miles away,so did not make the journey.2009 was the first black President,the crowds will be bigger for the first women President and bigger still for the first black women President.

I think we need to wait and judge President Trump on his actions rather than the size of his crowd support.

You miss the point. The size of the crowd is of no importance. What matters is Trump's willingness, perhaps compulsion, to lie. Not only that, he is attempting to control the press. He press secretary refused to answer questions and instead made a statement, which was factually wrong. In future, will the press be as willing to go against the bloke in charge?

It was similar over here when the press reported on a relative of Ferguson and he refused to speak to the publication. He, like Trump, was trying to control the press, stating quite clearly that if you go against the official line, there will be problems for you.

A politician, especially Trump, saying that the press are all liars borders on hilarity.

The bloke appears to be a danger.

The point is not how big the crowds were. It's Trumps willingness to state a clear lie and then stop the press from questioning his representative about the lie which is the problem.

He does not seem to know how to handle the press. Going "head to head" in what appears to be his idea of business is not going to make for an easy ride. Where he snubbed CNN, he would have been in a far better place had he answered them and in a polite manner. Now he is setting their agenda.

With this difference in the crowds, he would have been far better off just saying "So?".

[bitchstewie]

Does the size of the crowd change the result?

[Stickyfinger]

p1stonhead said:

'He is in charge of the country but don't hold him to account for his lies personally'

I will try again....I think BOTH of the candidates were/are dreadful.
As such, I think we could of expected bks from both.

Trump won because he has offered an alternative to the same old st offered by Hillary, the system that HAS fk a massive number of American lives back to 3rd world standards.

You need to "Win", this is more of a worry, discussions on Twitter maybe the best place for you.

[Rick101]

bhstewie said:

Does the size of the crowd change the result?

Not sure thats relevant.

He is pitching for a fight against the press and I suspect he is going to find it more difficult than he expects.

Of course his supporters will support him regardless.

[968]

bhstewie said:

Does the size of the crowd change the result?

No but it's interesting how Trump and his press secretary are so defensive about it, if it really doesn't matter. They seem in actual meltdown with their bizarre behaviour about how the press is reporting this.

[don4l]

bhstewie said:

Does the size of the crowd change the result?

I think that the size of the crowd is similar to a big red bus.

It gives great consolation to people who didn't get their own way.

[968]

Stickyfinger said:

I will try again....I think BOTH of the candidates were/are dreadful.
As such, I think we could of expected bks from both.

Trump won because he has offered an alternative to the same old st offered by Hillary, the system that HAS fk a massive number of American lives back to 3rd world standards.

You need to "Win", this is more of a worry, discussions on Twitter maybe the best place for you.

More than a touch of histrionics there.

For someone so critical of Trump you seem to be incredibly unwilling to criticise him. I'm still waiting for you to confirm that his twitter feed responses are whiny, shrill, over sensitive and thin skinned and all the other epithets you've applied to his critics.

[Jasandjules]

All these people whining and moaning, why don't they actually wait until he does something heinous first?

At the moment I see good news, the AGW bull**t page is gone from the website. That alone would make me vote for him.