45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.

[tommunster10]

Wow, I never knew Thatcher was so pro poor and pro coal. Amazing what you learn on Pistonheads..... So Thatcher was a 'leftie' after all....

It's hilarious watching the old right wingers try to pretend Trumps "help the poor and be anti establishment" stance is something they agree with after years of defending Thatcher...

[minimoog]

turbobloke said:

A fact-free vacuum will fill itself over time but we can speed things up.

The actual decline in mining output, without propaganda and in percentages:

11 years of Thatcher: 33%
11 years before Thatcher: 45%
11 years after Thatcher (Major and Blair): 72%
11 years of New Labour (Blair and Brown): 64%

You ought to be pointing your shoulder chip in another direction not at Thatcher.

Not so saintly when you look at the decline in mining jobs on her watch is she?



Anyway this is O/T. The fact is Thatcher was anti-protectionism in the coal industry, whereas Trump appears to be the opposite.

[Guybrush]

tommunster10 said:

Wow, I never knew Thatcher was so pro poor and pro coal. Amazing what you learn on Pistonheads..... So Thatcher was a 'leftie' after all....

It's hilarious watching the old right wingers try to pretend Trumps "help the poor and be anti establishment" stance is something they agree with after years of defending Thatcher...

Well, with age comes wisdom and sooner or later you realise the right of centre is all about helping everyone and not just pretending to help the 'needy' etc. (as Labour has for so many years pretended to do).

[tommunster10]

Trump warbling on about God never seemed to garner the usual pistonheads "sky fairy's" or "Sky pixes" rantings either..funny that..

[Stickyfinger]

turbobloke said:

30 seconds

Donald Trump inauguration: Protesters block supporters from Mall ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas
3 days ago - Donald Trump inauguration: Protesters block supporters from Mall .... Though Trump suggested “record numbers” of people would attend ...
Protesters block people from entering inaugural festivities ...
www.washingtonexaminer.com/...block-people...inaug...
3 days ago - Demonstrators march on the street near a security checkpoint inaugural entrance, Friday, Jan. 20, 2017 in Washington...Anti-Trump protesters have blocked Americans from all walks of life — not just Trump supporters — from ...

Do your own search(es) to get full links that work.

According to the reports I read, police weren't particularly helpful.

Not ONLY close, on the interstates into Washington as well
http://q13fox.com/2016/05/07/at-least-3-arrested-a...

[rscott]

KrissKross said:

Yes I would agree with you on that. Although I have not yet seen the news source where he said that, do you have a link?

There has also been discussion that a lot of people were afraid or even blocked trying to attend the event, would it be fair to say violence against the Trump supporters has been brushed under the carpet my most mainstream media. I do not recall republicans attacking democrats during Obamas inauguration?

Yes, some anti Trump muppets were violent, but I doubt it made much difference to the total turnout - possibly a few thousand at most didn't attend because of it.

Watch the press conference by Sean Spicer from Saturday when he misleads on attendance and even mass transit usage figures. It's a touch pathetic that he could even think that's acceptable behaviour.

[tommunster10]

Guybrush said:

tommunster10 said:

Wow, I never knew Thatcher was so pro poor and pro coal. Amazing what you learn on Pistonheads..... So Thatcher was a 'leftie' after all....

It's hilarious watching the old right wingers try to pretend Trumps "help the poor and be anti establishment" stance is something they agree with after years of defending Thatcher...

Well, with age comes wisdom and sooner or later you realise the right of centre is all about helping everyone and not just pretending to help the 'needy' etc. (as Labour has for so many years pretended to do).

lol...you serious?

Re writing the UK's history now to bend around to the 'leftie' stuff old Trumpo says.

[Stickyfinger]

rscott said:

KrissKross said:

Yes I would agree with you on that. Although I have not yet seen the news source where he said that, do you have a link?

There has also been discussion that a lot of people were afraid or even blocked trying to attend the event, would it be fair to say violence against the Trump supporters has been brushed under the carpet my most mainstream media. I do not recall republicans attacking democrats during Obamas inauguration?

Yes, some anti Trump muppets were violent, but I doubt it made much difference to the total turnout - possibly a few thousand at most didn't attend because of it.

Watch the press conference by Sean Spicer from Saturday when he misleads on attendance and even mass transit usage figures. It's a touch pathetic that he could even think that's acceptable behaviour.

I take it you have PROOF of that number ?

So we have, Blocked Interstates,, note below, error, blocked city roads, blocked security gates, violent action threats for weeks prior, violent actions on the day, many many personal assaults.......

Peace and Democracy Liberal stylie YEH !

Edited by Stickyfinger on Monday 23 January 17:45

Edited by Stickyfinger on Monday 23 January 17:53

Edited by Stickyfinger on Monday 23 January 17:53

[minimoog]

rscott said:

KrissKross said:

Yes I would agree with you on that. Although I have not yet seen the news source where he said that, do you have a link?

There has also been discussion that a lot of people were afraid or even blocked trying to attend the event, would it be fair to say violence against the Trump supporters has been brushed under the carpet my most mainstream media. I do not recall republicans attacking democrats during Obamas inauguration?

Yes, some anti Trump muppets were violent, but I doubt it made much difference to the total turnout - possibly a few thousand at most didn't attend because of it.

There have been demonstrations and general kicking-off at every inauguration for decades. The anti-Vietnam protests make last week's look like a mumsnet tea party. There will always be those from the both extremes of the bell-curve - the bell-ends if you will - who will use it as an excuse for a bit of recreational bin-toppling. They may safely be ignored as largely or wholly irrelevant.

[Guybrush]

tommunster10 said:

Guybrush said:

tommunster10 said:

Wow, I never knew Thatcher was so pro poor and pro coal. Amazing what you learn on Pistonheads..... So Thatcher was a 'leftie' after all....

It's hilarious watching the old right wingers try to pretend Trumps "help the poor and be anti establishment" stance is something they agree with after years of defending Thatcher...

Well, with age comes wisdom and sooner or later you realise the right of centre is all about helping everyone and not just pretending to help the 'needy' etc. (as Labour has for so many years pretended to do).

lol...you serious?

Re writing the UK's history now to bend around to the 'leftie' stuff old Trumpo says.

I expect Trump will have more success in helping the jobless etc. far more than Obama has done in all the years he's had the chance to do. Similarly - look at the history of the UK regarding the same - Labour Versus Conservatives. No need to rewrite history.

[Stickyfinger]

Madonna ?

[minimoog]

Stickyfinger said:

Not ONLY close, on the interstates into Washington as well
http://q13fox.com/2016/05/07/at-least-3-arrested-a...

You see that date there embedded in your link...?

[Stickyfinger]

minimoog said:

You see that date there embedded in your link...?

My error on that clip.

the others ??

[anonymous-user]

tommunster10 said:

Guybrush said:

tommunster10 said:

Wow, I never knew Thatcher was so pro poor and pro coal. Amazing what you learn on Pistonheads..... So Thatcher was a 'leftie' after all....

It's hilarious watching the old right wingers try to pretend Trumps "help the poor and be anti establishment" stance is something they agree with after years of defending Thatcher...

Well, with age comes wisdom and sooner or later you realise the right of centre is all about helping everyone and not just pretending to help the 'needy' etc. (as Labour has for so many years pretended to do).

lol...you serious?

Yes he's serious. In fact bang on. You would have to be young or have blinkers on for 40 years to see otherwise. Some still think like you which is just a high level of ignorance.

US politics is different and Trump is no Scargill he's more of lunatic, if that's possible, and without the industrial suicide bit, and the coal thing with him is just part of a 'keep it at home' policy without thinking of what people actually want or need.

[ikarl]

TheExcession said:

FourWheelDrift said:

It was also raining, in a Democrat City.

God's tears man, it was God's tears.

[minimoog]

Stickyfinger said:

My error on that clip.

the others ??

See my 17.44 post.

[Stickyfinger]

minimoog said:

See my 17.44 post.

and ?, the 1960's FFS ?

What numbers were blocked THIS time.

Edit: On a Higher level:
Seems like the 60's is not dead. You would think it would calm things down a bit
http://fox40.com/2017/01/22/washington-marijuana-a...

Edited by Stickyfinger on Monday 23 January 17:59

Edited by Stickyfinger on Monday 23 January 18:00

[walm]

KrissKross said:

walm said:

KrissKross said:

Also if the demographic of people that support Obama live in the same city would it not make sense to have a higher turnout?

Yes. Of course it would. It was no surprise to anyone.

That's why insisting you DID have a higher turnout and accusing the press of fake news etc... marks you out as even more of a muppet.

Yes I would agree with you on that. Although I have not yet seen the news source where he said that, do you have a link?

There has also been discussion that a lot of people were afraid or even blocked trying to attend the event, would it be fair to say violence against the Trump supporters has been brushed under the carpet my most mainstream media. I do not recall republicans attacking democrats during Obamas inauguration?

Sorry - I am genuinely not sure what you mean by "he" and "that"?
I meant Spicer on the subject of crowd-size. You know, the press secretary who obviously speaks on POTUS's behalf.

[KrissKross]

walm said:

I meant Spicer on the subject of crowd-size. You know, the press secretary who obviously speaks on POTUS's behalf.

No I don't know who you meant, that's why I asked. Do you have a link to his (Spicer') conversation?

[Tryke3]

Spicer is a little Hitler, it will be funny when next month he claims 30 billion beautiful jobs have been created