45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.
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vonuber said:
turbobloke said:
If that's substance it must be one of those substances.
Meaning?OP: 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.
Stickyfinger said:
smn159 said:
The US intelligence services don't appear to trust the President. This will end badly and I'm guessing that Trump will be the loser, but who knows.
Leaks to the press from that direction will have a massive effect (strengthening) on Trumps position and public support.The US public know that those places are full to the brim of self interest & lies, historical collusion with "terrorist groups & undermining of legitimate governments (even if disliked). The past 20 years and since the USSR collapsed they have meddled with a free hand.
Just the Obama/Clinton collaboration with various Muslim fanatical groups is frightening in its possibilities.
smn159 said:
Stickyfinger said:
smn159 said:
The US intelligence services don't appear to trust the President. This will end badly and I'm guessing that Trump will be the loser, but who knows.
Leaks to the press from that direction will have a massive effect (strengthening) on Trumps position and public support.The US public know that those places are full to the brim of self interest & lies, historical collusion with "terrorist groups & undermining of legitimate governments (even if disliked). The past 20 years and since the USSR collapsed they have meddled with a free hand.
Just the Obama/Clinton collaboration with various Muslim fanatical groups is frightening in its possibilities.
968 said:
smn159 said:
Stickyfinger said:
smn159 said:
The US intelligence services don't appear to trust the President. This will end badly and I'm guessing that Trump will be the loser, but who knows.
Leaks to the press from that direction will have a massive effect (strengthening) on Trumps position and public support.The US public know that those places are full to the brim of self interest & lies, historical collusion with "terrorist groups & undermining of legitimate governments (even if disliked). The past 20 years and since the USSR collapsed they have meddled with a free hand.
Just the Obama/Clinton collaboration with various Muslim fanatical groups is frightening in its possibilities.
from my post above
"The past 20 years and since the USSR collapsed they have meddled with a free hand."
5ohmustang said:
While Orwell's 1984 was an accurate preview of the future, the biggest mistake in the story is the dystopian world where everything is dark, cold, gray and everybody is poor.
Those who run the show know the minions will not be happy and jump off the wheel if they are not given shiny st. Give the people their smartphones, smart tv's, soap operas, sports etc to keep them happy. It's an illusion that most people do not want to realize. People would rather be enslaved in "the matrix" and have shiny st than have true freedom. For that reason there will never be true global freedom in my lifetime anyway.
Everyday people are taking the red pill and realizing just what the fk is going on.
Have you read Huxley?Those who run the show know the minions will not be happy and jump off the wheel if they are not given shiny st. Give the people their smartphones, smart tv's, soap operas, sports etc to keep them happy. It's an illusion that most people do not want to realize. People would rather be enslaved in "the matrix" and have shiny st than have true freedom. For that reason there will never be true global freedom in my lifetime anyway.
Everyday people are taking the red pill and realizing just what the fk is going on.
Similar theme as orwell as a futurist prediction, but an entirely different angle.
Might be worth a google. would link you stuff, but it all seems to e relating it t trump at the moment, which is not what I was trying to say
Efbe said:
Have you read Huxley?
Similar theme as orwell as a futurist prediction, but an entirely different angle.
Might be worth a google. would link you stuff, but it all seems to e relating it t trump at the moment, which is not what I was trying to say
Only the doors of perception.Similar theme as orwell as a futurist prediction, but an entirely different angle.
Might be worth a google. would link you stuff, but it all seems to e relating it t trump at the moment, which is not what I was trying to say
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Not sure the Russkies are the biggest villains in the world these days when it comes down tot the lives of individual Americans.
I think when you get to a certain level, it's less about nationalities, more about groups. Groups of rich oligarchs, Russian/American, they are the biggest (unseen and unhindered threat). The nationality thing is just a game that they use to hep control things. Very similar to what that book alludes to above.The nationality thing is a slightly less virulent mind virus on the same lines as religion/royalty.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Countdown said:
Completely agree.
Let's be honest, if Trump and Putin can make a genuine lasting peace then effectively the FBI and CIA are out of a job. They've probably been creating an "us and them" situation since the end of WW2 just to keep their cushy Public sector non-jobs and padded pensions. Remember the story about Trump/Russian hotel/prostitutes/watersports? Completely made up! If there was any truth in the matter the guys who publicised it would be in fear for their lives, and Putin would have used it to try and get the sanctions lifted.
Not sure the Russkies are the biggest villains in the world these days when it comes down tot the lives of individual Americans. Let's be honest, if Trump and Putin can make a genuine lasting peace then effectively the FBI and CIA are out of a job. They've probably been creating an "us and them" situation since the end of WW2 just to keep their cushy Public sector non-jobs and padded pensions. Remember the story about Trump/Russian hotel/prostitutes/watersports? Completely made up! If there was any truth in the matter the guys who publicised it would be in fear for their lives, and Putin would have used it to try and get the sanctions lifted.
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citizensm1th said:
last week comrade trumpski stated we would see a new executive order on visa,s and immigration on monday or tuesday of this week, that seems to have ended up in the long grass
To be fair to Trump, reports on this quote him as considering the matter, saying he might sign a new order, not quite the same as saying he would or will sign. Another 'wait and see' matter.turbobloke said:
To be fair to Trump, reports on this quote him as considering the matter, saying he might sign a new order, not quite the same as saying he would or will sign. Another 'wait and see' matter.
He probably needs to consult further with Twitter, his son in law and the bloke from Breitbart before he decides.smn159 said:
turbobloke said:
To be fair to Trump, reports on this quote him as considering the matter, saying he might sign a new order, not quite the same as saying he would or will sign. Another 'wait and see' matter.
He probably needs to consult further with Twitter, his son in law and the bloke from Breitbart before he decides.never watched the Apprentice but did see him on a programme about his Golf Course in Scotland and he came across as somebody that could only cope if things went his way and if they didn't he would kick off big style.
Not a very nice person but his single mindedness and drive has taken him some distance and what bothers me is not him but the other Morons who think because they moan and bh and Cry they are somehow more important than all the people who voted for him. We seem to be heading towards polar opposites in Politics with left and right extreme views getting far too much air time. The "shouty people" are taking over.
Not a very nice person but his single mindedness and drive has taken him some distance and what bothers me is not him but the other Morons who think because they moan and bh and Cry they are somehow more important than all the people who voted for him. We seem to be heading towards polar opposites in Politics with left and right extreme views getting far too much air time. The "shouty people" are taking over.
scherzkeks said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Countdown said:
Completely agree.
Let's be honest, if Trump and Putin can make a genuine lasting peace then effectively the FBI and CIA are out of a job. They've probably been creating an "us and them" situation since the end of WW2 just to keep their cushy Public sector non-jobs and padded pensions. Remember the story about Trump/Russian hotel/prostitutes/watersports? Completely made up! If there was any truth in the matter the guys who publicised it would be in fear for their lives, and Putin would have used it to try and get the sanctions lifted.
Not sure the Russkies are the biggest villains in the world these days when it comes down tot the lives of individual Americans. Let's be honest, if Trump and Putin can make a genuine lasting peace then effectively the FBI and CIA are out of a job. They've probably been creating an "us and them" situation since the end of WW2 just to keep their cushy Public sector non-jobs and padded pensions. Remember the story about Trump/Russian hotel/prostitutes/watersports? Completely made up! If there was any truth in the matter the guys who publicised it would be in fear for their lives, and Putin would have used it to try and get the sanctions lifted.
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She lost btw. Anyone sane accepts that, but sane people don't claim she lost in a "most spectacular fashion".
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