Could the US U-turn on the election result?
Discussion
mygoldfishbowl said:
Trump will be President, we will leave Europe & there's not a thing the silly lefty liberals can do about.
Sure there is... they can piss and moan about it, obstruct, demonstrate, riot, finding the media keen to sell papers to egg them on, TV and social media to echo back to them what they want to hear, just once they spin/hoodwink what the majority voted for into meaning something else, or convince themselves that the people who voted for him were stupid, taken in by lies and/or racists. Watch the Polling industry come to explain it to us, and the media will gloss over how they got it so wrong, AGAIN.I've heard already, the black vote didn't come out, that for some reason college educated white women didn't come out for Clinton, but must have voted in big numbers for Trump. Watch the media lick its wounds and start inventing a narrative to dismiss it.
Although I think he will be frustrated, and will be a one term president. It's clear from his acceptance speech he will say anything to win the primaries, he will then modify his message to win the presidency and now he wants to thank Clinton for her service and heal the nation, together. Which is a new message.
Presumably if he means to go on like this, we should not believe a word he says, but judge on what he (if he's allowed to) delivers. Not convinced the Republicans in charge of the house and senate will necessarily line up behind him on everything. It's going to be interesting while it lasts, hopefully we'll live through it and come out the other side stronger.
don4l said:
mwstewart said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
...there's not a thing the silly lefty liberals can do about.
There are wrongs on both side of the coin. The best for all of us is some kind of balance.Do you think that Trump and Clinton could share the presidency?
Perhaps we could Leave the EU and also stay in?
silentbrown said:
OP said:
Could the US U-turn on the election result?
Yes, in four years time. turbobloke said:
Agreed on the mechanism but not the outcome.
silentbrown said:
I wasn't trying to predict the outcome 
OK understood but when answering a question about a U-turn with 'yes after 4 years' possibly nodding to a win for the Dems, you can see how that interpretation arose.Einion Yrth said:
MartG said:
Unlike the UK, the US already has an established system for changing a president mid-term...
Probably why he had Pence as a running mate; that guy is so bats
t crazy that having him in line for the oval office should act as life-insurance.
( Just to clarify I am being satirical, and in no way endorse the wholesale murder of politicians...OK, maybe a little bit.... )
People protesting on the city streets, mostly the young and they can't tell any of the media why apart from "fk Trump"
When asked not a single one would answer the question - Did you vote?
Students burning the American Flag - that's nuts in the USA
Now what's the common denominator?
It seems the USA can add education to immigration and globalisation as things that aren't working in the USA.
k Trump"When asked not a single one would answer the question - Did you vote?
Students burning the American Flag - that's nuts in the USA
Now what's the common denominator?
It seems the USA can add education to immigration and globalisation as things that aren't working in the USA.
B'stard Child said:
People protesting on the city streets, mostly the young and they can't tell any of the media why apart from "fk Trump"
When asked not a single one would answer the question - Did you vote?
Students burning the American Flag - that's nuts in the USA
Now what's the common denominator?
It seems the USA can add education to immigration and globalisation as things that aren't working in the USA.
I agree. Soros is at it again. k Trump"When asked not a single one would answer the question - Did you vote?
Students burning the American Flag - that's nuts in the USA
Now what's the common denominator?
It seems the USA can add education to immigration and globalisation as things that aren't working in the USA.
e8_pack said:
Oh boy... Well that didn't take long.
The difference is in how the US media are portraying it.They are covering it but the commentators are
- ridiculing it in any way possible as undemocratic
- tearing up any argument that is presented
- labelling them as liberal
- saying the protest was nonsense.
Contrast that with the media coverage of the U.K. Brexit where the media were in the same camp as the people who complained about the result.
selym said:
Adrian W said:
interesting that in the "worlds greatest democracy" the winner got 1% less votes than the looser.
No-one bleats about the electoral system and democracy in general until the result doesn't suit them.The mouthier Dems will be looking at the Electoral College mechanism at this point, and if they ever get rid of it in an attempt to secure the 'right' result, only to lose the popular vote at some point in the future, they'll want it re-instated.
They know best, remember. Acting like a spoilt child is nothing at all.
selym said:
Adrian W said:
interesting that in the "worlds greatest democracy" the winner got 1% less votes than the looser.
No-one bleats about the electoral system and democracy in general until the result doesn't suit them.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff