Incident Croydon tram
Discussion
scenario8 said:
I wonder if an extra 75p an hour might ease their way through this awful imposition?80p?
What price the loss of one's freedom to sleep at the wheel? Call it an extra quid and we're golden.
SpeckledJim said:
scenario8 said:
I wonder if an extra 75p an hour might ease their way through this awful imposition?80p?
What price the loss of one's freedom to sleep at the wheel? Call it an extra quid and we're golden.
They really are scum arent they?
KAgantua said:
SpeckledJim said:
scenario8 said:
I wonder if an extra 75p an hour might ease their way through this awful imposition?80p?
What price the loss of one's freedom to sleep at the wheel? Call it an extra quid and we're golden.
They really are scum arent they?
anonymous said:
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Why has it come down to this?Back earlier in the thread there was only one 20 sign (or whatever it was in kph) and which was easy to miss.
It looked like it was a track/signage layout fault
Was it Paddington Green where theyd positioned the red light where many drivers missed it, but it wasnt until there was a crash they thought about doing something about it.
saaby93 said:
Why has it come down to this?
Back earlier in the thread there was only one 20 sign (or whatever it was in kph) and which was easy to miss.
It looked like it was a track/signage layout fault
Was it Paddington Green where theyd positioned the red light where many drivers missed it, but it wasnt until there was a crash they thought about doing something about it.
If a speed limit sign on your commute blows down overnight, do you crash the following morning? Back earlier in the thread there was only one 20 sign (or whatever it was in kph) and which was easy to miss.
It looked like it was a track/signage layout fault
Was it Paddington Green where theyd positioned the red light where many drivers missed it, but it wasnt until there was a crash they thought about doing something about it.
SpeckledJim said:
saaby93 said:
Why has it come down to this?
Back earlier in the thread there was only one 20 sign (or whatever it was in kph) and which was easy to miss.
It looked like it was a track/signage layout fault
Was it Paddington Green where theyd positioned the red light where many drivers missed it, but it wasnt until there was a crash they thought about doing something about it.
If a speed limit sign on your commute blows down overnight, do you crash the following morning? Back earlier in the thread there was only one 20 sign (or whatever it was in kph) and which was easy to miss.
It looked like it was a track/signage layout fault
Was it Paddington Green where theyd positioned the red light where many drivers missed it, but it wasnt until there was a crash they thought about doing something about it.
You cant really tell the lie of the tracks and use the speed limit signs to tell you to anchor up for a particular bend
Who'd have thought theyd put a 20mph bend on the output of a full speed stretch through a tunnel?
If it was a road you'd have all sorts of hazard markings if they did, its not as if you can take a different line through the bend on a tram
anonymous said:
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Yes, no doubt about it. If the devise was there merely to warn the driver they were falling asleep and wake them up I suspect the unions and staff would have no issue. However no doubt it will be used as a management tool and this is why they don't want it. I doubt the staff and union want to be fighting against something that they know the public will think is good.saaby93 said:
It's a bit different in a tram
You cant really tell the lie of the tracks and use the speed limit signs to tell you to anchor up for a particular bend
Who'd have thought theyd put a 20mph bend on the output of a full speed stretch through a tunnel?
If it was a road you'd have all sorts of hazard markings if they did, its not as if you can take a different line through the bend on a tram
If it's anything like the mainline railways, they should know every single detail of the line and be able to drive the whole thing with very few visual cues. Things like a speed restriction for a sharp bend after a particular tunnel are the sorts of details that would stick in your head.You cant really tell the lie of the tracks and use the speed limit signs to tell you to anchor up for a particular bend
Who'd have thought theyd put a 20mph bend on the output of a full speed stretch through a tunnel?
If it was a road you'd have all sorts of hazard markings if they did, its not as if you can take a different line through the bend on a tram
alangla said:
saaby93 said:
It's a bit different in a tram
You cant really tell the lie of the tracks and use the speed limit signs to tell you to anchor up for a particular bend
Who'd have thought theyd put a 20mph bend on the output of a full speed stretch through a tunnel?
If it was a road you'd have all sorts of hazard markings if they did, its not as if you can take a different line through the bend on a tram
If it's anything like the mainline railways, they should know every single detail of the line and be able to drive the whole thing with very few visual cues. Things like a speed restriction for a sharp bend after a particular tunnel are the sorts of details that would stick in your head.You cant really tell the lie of the tracks and use the speed limit signs to tell you to anchor up for a particular bend
Who'd have thought theyd put a 20mph bend on the output of a full speed stretch through a tunnel?
If it was a road you'd have all sorts of hazard markings if they did, its not as if you can take a different line through the bend on a tram
BlackLabel said:
I hate to point this out to Mr Workshy Union leader, but sunlight is also inferred. I suggest if the drivers can't drive due to infrared light, they shouldn't be driving at all.Tossers.
They usually strike on the basis of "safety of passengers", like removing staff from tube ticket halls, and then when something is brought in for the safety of passengers, they strike again 
saaby93 said:
alangla said:
saaby93 said:
It's a bit different in a tram
You cant really tell the lie of the tracks and use the speed limit signs to tell you to anchor up for a particular bend
Who'd have thought theyd put a 20mph bend on the output of a full speed stretch through a tunnel?
If it was a road you'd have all sorts of hazard markings if they did, its not as if you can take a different line through the bend on a tram
If it's anything like the mainline railways, they should know every single detail of the line and be able to drive the whole thing with very few visual cues. Things like a speed restriction for a sharp bend after a particular tunnel are the sorts of details that would stick in your head.You cant really tell the lie of the tracks and use the speed limit signs to tell you to anchor up for a particular bend
Who'd have thought theyd put a 20mph bend on the output of a full speed stretch through a tunnel?
If it was a road you'd have all sorts of hazard markings if they did, its not as if you can take a different line through the bend on a tram
At some severe restrictions, there might be a TPWS setup which could detect the overspeed and stop the train, but this is by no means universal.
This new "infrared sleep sensor" that the drivers are saying is causing them undue headaches etc, why was this brought in instead of the more traditional system that I am familiar with in other trains where you have to press a button every 15-20 seconds to prove you are not asleep? A bit more than the "dead man's handle" system which clearly, can still operate when you are asleep if you are holding on to it?
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