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Deny it? No, it's there it's alive as all race-centric movements. My problem is that you're an ethno-masocist, you're obsessed with the crimes of your own skin colour. You cannot see that America has more problems than some KKK remnants/offshoots. I'll say it again, the true terror in america is having a portion of 13% of the population causing 50% of the violent crime.
Vocal Minority said:
berlintaxi said:
MrBrightSi said:
A bunch of white guys didnt shoot up their works do, a bunch of white guys didnt shoot up an army base/recruitment centre.
I'm sure all these were just proud to be a white man and in no way terrorists.https://news.vice.com/story/10-plots-and-attacks-b...
I think this is where some people fall down. No one is saying that Islamic extremism isn't a pressing problem. I know that the right believe the left are saying that - but that's because they've gotten all hysterical about the left like its some sort of bogeyman (we aren't even talking proper left, we are talking left leaning/left of centre/even left edge of centre).
They are so busy accusing people of ignoring Islamic terrorism (we're not) they forget (either accidentally or wilfully) that they aren't alone in doing this - and wilfully conflate jihad and Islam.
Then ignore the fact all religions have their whackjobs.
For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_...
Honestly - I think that people who think terrorism is the sole preserve of Islam or a little deluded or very, very sweetly naïve.
But then saying there is only actually 400 of them in the US...or now 15 apparently... even though they never existed... there are still 15 of them...yep... I bet they aren't this careful on Stormfront..
MrBrightSi said:
Deny it? No, it's there it's alive as all race-centric movements. My problem is that you're an ethno-masocist, you're obsessed with the crimes of your own skin colour. You cannot see that America has more problems than some KKK remnants/offshoots. I'll say it again, the true terror in america is having a portion of 13% of the population causing 50% of the violent crime.
No I was talking with 50stang who was denying there is even any white supremacy groups in the face of evidence to gave... You just went off on one about German Jews needing to stop banging on about stuff that happened decades ago...you let yourself down and that is really saying something judging by your other postings...We have Islamic extremists wanting us to be wiped out again AND the white supremacist groups in America recycling Nazi symbols and styles and also wanting us gone... So sorry for not just 'getting over it'.
MrBrightSi said:
Deny it? No, it's there it's alive as all race-centric movements. My problem is that you're an ethno-masocist, you're obsessed with the crimes of your own skin colour. You cannot see that America has more problems than some KKK remnants/offshoots. I'll say it again, the true terror in america is having a portion of 13% of the population causing 50% of the violent crime.
True terror? You really are a drama queen, the vast majority of violent crimes committed by African Americans is against other African Americans, how do you define that as terrorism?MrBrightSi said:
Deny it? No, it's there it's alive as all race-centric movements. My problem is that you're an ethno-masocist, you're obsessed with the crimes of your own skin colour. You cannot see that America has more problems than some KKK remnants/offshoots.
Now, this is what I don't get. It's this blanket assumption that to cut non-jihadi Islam a little slack, you must be some sort or, what did you say, ethno-masochist? I just don't understand. There seems to be an assumption that by taking a 'may he without sin cast the first stone' approach - as exhibited by some of the bile (on both sides I admit) propelled in both directions, that white hating white people are somehow the norm!
I love the music of Elgar and Puccini, I play cricket and rugby, I think our country's history is rich and remarkable, as is our history in pioneering modern medicine, technology and world leading institutions.
Its all jolly spiffy what what. I don't feel ashamed of that and to be perfectly honest I don't see anyone else telling me to. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention
That also doesn't mean I can't see that I'm going to ignore the fact there are race problems in the world from white people, as well as coming in the other direction from Isis.
MrbrightSi said:
I'll say it again, the true terror in america is having a portion of 13% of the population causing 50% of the violent crime.
Acknowledged. However there are roots to that problem that are considerably more complex than them simply being bad hombres. Some will however, by that token, probably just be bad hombres. They come in all shapes and sizes.
Thanks for the reply vocal i'll step down from the rage train. Yes, you have a point white people are not without sin, but in the west right now, i hate to sound tin foiled up but, in the west white people are getting an undue amount of negative press for past and present ills.
As for the reasons why African american men (maybe 6% in of the population maybe?) commit the massive amounts of crime, i refuse to let white Americans take the full brunt of the blame, there are plenty of black-centric institutions in america, plenty of black people who are in the police force, local/state/federal government, the amount of hand outs given to this section of the community is huge and how the bar has been lowered especially to raise these people up has done nothing but harbour the victim narrative. It is not their skin colour it is the culture, we have absorbed a bit of this self-destructive ghetto culture, it crosses skin colours and turns hard working people into material focused criminal scum. Enough of that anyhow.
I believe that ethno-masocism is a big issue right now in young educated whites in the west, the same way Germans are bombarded with the guilt of the holocaust white people now are bombarded with colonialism, slavery and the crimes of our forefathers.
Right, this whole thing is such a tip-toe routine nowadays, as can be seen from tom and his complete missing of my point. I was not talking about German jews, i was not talking about how they should stop talking about the holocaust or the crimes of nazi germany. I'm speaking about the German people as a whole. Like i said the PM of Israel asked the reparations from germany to stop, i don't want people to forget the holocaust, but i want Germany to move on or atleast look at their deeper history and be proud to be German, the amount of stupid Antifa style stickers and posters i saw about asking for the "Death of the German people, tod deustche volk or something" made me laugh and deeply sad.
I went to Germany and your behaviour on here is the perfect example of how i could not have decent level conversation with young educated Germans.
As for the reasons why African american men (maybe 6% in of the population maybe?) commit the massive amounts of crime, i refuse to let white Americans take the full brunt of the blame, there are plenty of black-centric institutions in america, plenty of black people who are in the police force, local/state/federal government, the amount of hand outs given to this section of the community is huge and how the bar has been lowered especially to raise these people up has done nothing but harbour the victim narrative. It is not their skin colour it is the culture, we have absorbed a bit of this self-destructive ghetto culture, it crosses skin colours and turns hard working people into material focused criminal scum. Enough of that anyhow.
I believe that ethno-masocism is a big issue right now in young educated whites in the west, the same way Germans are bombarded with the guilt of the holocaust white people now are bombarded with colonialism, slavery and the crimes of our forefathers.
Right, this whole thing is such a tip-toe routine nowadays, as can be seen from tom and his complete missing of my point. I was not talking about German jews, i was not talking about how they should stop talking about the holocaust or the crimes of nazi germany. I'm speaking about the German people as a whole. Like i said the PM of Israel asked the reparations from germany to stop, i don't want people to forget the holocaust, but i want Germany to move on or atleast look at their deeper history and be proud to be German, the amount of stupid Antifa style stickers and posters i saw about asking for the "Death of the German people, tod deustche volk or something" made me laugh and deeply sad.
I went to Germany and your behaviour on here is the perfect example of how i could not have decent level conversation with young educated Germans.
Zod said:
Being proud of the colour of your skin is bizarre.
I suppose racial identity can sometimes be misconstrued as cultural identity. There is however plenty of "pride" movements for every other hue of skin but white, like i said saying you're a proud white is to be conflated as a skin head pillowcase wearing supremacist.If we're talking arian brotherhoods and nazi movements in the US, why is no one mentioned the black panthers. They are a anti race group, they are very very active today and unlike the skinheaded white groups, they have actual celebrities unapologetic when giving the fist salute. Beyonce, lenny henry et al all have paraded their support for a race-hate group but no one seems to be on their case.
MrBrightSi said:
Zod said:
Being proud of the colour of your skin is bizarre.
I suppose racial identity can sometimes be misconstrued as cultural identity. There is however plenty of "pride" movements for every other hue of skin but white, like i said saying you're a proud white is to be conflated as a skin head pillowcase wearing supremacist.If we're talking arian brotherhoods and nazi movements in the US, why is no one mentioned the black panthers. They are a anti race group, they are very very active today and unlike the skinheaded white groups, they have actual celebrities unapologetic when giving the fist salute. Beyonce, lenny henry et al all have paraded their support for a race-hate group but no one seems to be on their case.
You seem so twisted and bitter about black people. Many many black people dislike the black panther's same as many white people hate the white Nazi groups of the US and Europe.
You need to just chill out and maybe look at more positive things about non whites instead of defending everything negative to do with white people, I hope that makes sense.
Great, so by daring to tackle your bull i've lead myself down the road of looking the racist. It's nothing like that, i just refuse to be part of this new found cool-kid idea that it's all hate the white guy. White privilege all that s
t.
Trying to tackle the german mindset about issues outside of Germany is difficult, you guys are very good at tarring nazi on everyone and i will not have this thrust upon me.
I look at the Asian (far eastern) communities and Indians, most come here and are minorities (here and US) and often outdo the native populace, but last time i checked there are no handouts given to these people, no victim narrative about them, infact arent chinese tourists big targets in Paris now due to the success of the Chinese diaspora in the West.
Edit: My opinion has been formed through seeing the anti-trump protests all over the west, both post and pre election, the groups who were so quick to target skin colour have almost brought the west to the brink of a race conflict and it's scary. So it's either bury head in sand blissfully ignorant that quite educated young people are now out for my blood for some presupposed privilege or speak up against the new mainstream.
t.Trying to tackle the german mindset about issues outside of Germany is difficult, you guys are very good at tarring nazi on everyone and i will not have this thrust upon me.
I look at the Asian (far eastern) communities and Indians, most come here and are minorities (here and US) and often outdo the native populace, but last time i checked there are no handouts given to these people, no victim narrative about them, infact arent chinese tourists big targets in Paris now due to the success of the Chinese diaspora in the West.
Edit: My opinion has been formed through seeing the anti-trump protests all over the west, both post and pre election, the groups who were so quick to target skin colour have almost brought the west to the brink of a race conflict and it's scary. So it's either bury head in sand blissfully ignorant that quite educated young people are now out for my blood for some presupposed privilege or speak up against the new mainstream.
Edited by MrBrightSi on Tuesday 21st March 15:58
MrBrightSi said:
Great, so by daring to tackle your bull i've lead myself down the road of looking the racist. It's nothing like that, i just refuse to be part of this new found cool-kid idea that it's all hate the white guy. White privilege all that st.
Trying to tackle the german mindset about issues outside of Germany is difficult, you guys are very good at tarring nazi on everyone and i will not have this thrust upon me.
I look at the Asian (far eastern) communities and Indians, most come here and are minorities (here and US) and often outdo the native populace, but last time i checked there are no handouts given to these people, no victim narrative about them, infact arent chinese tourists big targets in Paris now due to the success of the Chinese diaspora in the West.
Edit: My opinion has been formed through seeing the anti-trump protests all over the west, both post and pre election, the groups who were so quick to target skin colour have almost brought the west to the brink of a race conflict and it's scary. So it's either bury head in sand blissfully ignorant that quite educated young people are now out for my blood for some presupposed privilege or speak up against the new mainstream.
You are a total muppet though in fairness. I was talking with 50Stang about Neo Nazi's in USA which HE denied even exist.t.Trying to tackle the german mindset about issues outside of Germany is difficult, you guys are very good at tarring nazi on everyone and i will not have this thrust upon me.
I look at the Asian (far eastern) communities and Indians, most come here and are minorities (here and US) and often outdo the native populace, but last time i checked there are no handouts given to these people, no victim narrative about them, infact arent chinese tourists big targets in Paris now due to the success of the Chinese diaspora in the West.
Edit: My opinion has been formed through seeing the anti-trump protests all over the west, both post and pre election, the groups who were so quick to target skin colour have almost brought the west to the brink of a race conflict and it's scary. So it's either bury head in sand blissfully ignorant that quite educated young people are now out for my blood for some presupposed privilege or speak up against the new mainstream.
Edited by MrBrightSi on Tuesday 21st March 15:58
I was saying I get annoyed seeing a Swastika symbol used by Neo Nazi's in USA.
I'm not sure why you the got so angry about stuff you made up in your own head.
If anyone keeps the Nazi's alive it's bloody American White Supremacist groups, not Germans like me, we'd rather never see it ever again thanks..
You need to calm down a bit. And you do come across as very bitter and very angry about non whites.
Edited by tommunster10 on Tuesday 21st March 16:07
MrBrightSi said:
Great, so by daring to tackle your bull i've lead myself down the road of looking the racist. It's nothing like that, i just refuse to be part of this new found cool-kid idea that it's all hate the white guy. White privilege all that st.
Trying to tackle the german mindset about issues outside of Germany is difficult, you guys are very good at tarring nazi on everyone and i will not have this thrust upon me.
I look at the Asian (far eastern) communities and Indians, most come here and are minorities (here and US) and often outdo the native populace, but last time i checked there are no handouts given to these people, no victim narrative about them, infact arent chinese tourists big targets in Paris now due to the success of the Chinese diaspora in the West.
Edit: My opinion has been formed through seeing the anti-trump protests all over the west, both post and pre election, the groups who were so quick to target skin colour have almost brought the west to the brink of a race conflict and it's scary. So it's either bury head in sand blissfully ignorant that quite educated young people are now out for my blood for some presupposed privilege or speak up against the new mainstream.
Honestly mate you need to take a month off the internet, the majority of the world is just going about its own business and neither interested in you, me or anybody else. Sure you can find all the bogeymen hiding on the internet, but why bother.t.Trying to tackle the german mindset about issues outside of Germany is difficult, you guys are very good at tarring nazi on everyone and i will not have this thrust upon me.
I look at the Asian (far eastern) communities and Indians, most come here and are minorities (here and US) and often outdo the native populace, but last time i checked there are no handouts given to these people, no victim narrative about them, infact arent chinese tourists big targets in Paris now due to the success of the Chinese diaspora in the West.
Edit: My opinion has been formed through seeing the anti-trump protests all over the west, both post and pre election, the groups who were so quick to target skin colour have almost brought the west to the brink of a race conflict and it's scary. So it's either bury head in sand blissfully ignorant that quite educated young people are now out for my blood for some presupposed privilege or speak up against the new mainstream.
non of the issues i've brought up are made up. Yes fine, i'll give that i've been overly on your case and even though im not that fussed about how i come out of this, i will admit the ad-hom side of my posts didn't help.
You have taken 5oh and my stuff well out of context though, it wasn't our denial of the existence of these groups, they have relatively low membership and as such present a smaller threat than is shown in the news media.
You have taken 5oh and my stuff well out of context though, it wasn't our denial of the existence of these groups, they have relatively low membership and as such present a smaller threat than is shown in the news media.
MrBrightSi said:
non of the issues i've brought up are made up. Yes fine, i'll give that i've been overly on your case and even though im not that fussed about how i come out of this, i will admit the ad-hom side of my posts didn't help.
You have taken 5oh and my stuff well out of context though, it wasn't our denial of the existence of these groups, they have relatively low membership and as such present a smaller threat than is shown in the news media.
We don't really see any of it in the UK media...i simply asked 50stang if in the US its any different. 50stang said bout 400 white supremacists in US. I think there's more than 400 of them, but even if true 400 still exist and like to play Nazi.You have taken 5oh and my stuff well out of context though, it wasn't our denial of the existence of these groups, they have relatively low membership and as such present a smaller threat than is shown in the news media.
Clearly as a white person I don't think that anywhere near the majority of white people are close to forming these groups, far far from it...but I am also aware that nowhere near the majority of Muslims form terror groups against the West nor Black people form the Black Panthers etc... I suppose that is the difference between people like me and you...
Nanook said:
tommunster10 said:
Wow. Just wow. You are a disgusting individual. Disgusting. Actually defending and trying to deny the existence of White Supremacy... wow.
??He's neither defending of denying.
He's just saying there's not very many of them. And based on the only evidence provided, he's correct.
tommunster10 said:
You are a total muppet though in fairness. I was talking with 50Stang about Neo Nazi's in USA which HE denied even exist.
I was saying I get annoyed seeing a Swastika symbol used by Neo Nazi's in USA.
I'm not sure why you the got so angry about stuff you made up in your own head.
If anyone keeps the Nazi's alive it's bloody American White Supremacist groups, not Germans like me, we'd rather never see it ever again thanks..
You need to calm down a bit. And you do come across as very bitter and very angry about non whites.
You're the one that needs a time out.I was saying I get annoyed seeing a Swastika symbol used by Neo Nazi's in USA.
I'm not sure why you the got so angry about stuff you made up in your own head.
If anyone keeps the Nazi's alive it's bloody American White Supremacist groups, not Germans like me, we'd rather never see it ever again thanks..
You need to calm down a bit. And you do come across as very bitter and very angry about non whites.
Edited by tommunster10 on Tuesday 21st March 16:07
I never denied the existence of white supremacy, I said it's a non issue, it barely exists which is why you don't hear about it.
Maybe you can show the same rage in the thread about the white kid that was tortured on Facebook live. Oh yeah, it was more important to be outraged at Chemical Chaos associating them with BLM instead of the acts they perpetrated.
Nanook said:
tommunster10 said:
Grow up, I think we know there are more than 15 Neo Nazi's in the US.
I'm all grown up, thanks, why don't you take your own advice. As I said, he was neither denying not defending them. He was making a statement based on the only evidence you provided. Try making a better point next time.
5ohmustang said:
tommunster10 said:
You are a total muppet though in fairness. I was talking with 50Stang about Neo Nazi's in USA which HE denied even exist.
I was saying I get annoyed seeing a Swastika symbol used by Neo Nazi's in USA.
I'm not sure why you the got so angry about stuff you made up in your own head.
If anyone keeps the Nazi's alive it's bloody American White Supremacist groups, not Germans like me, we'd rather never see it ever again thanks..
You need to calm down a bit. And you do come across as very bitter and very angry about non whites.
You're the one that needs a time out.I was saying I get annoyed seeing a Swastika symbol used by Neo Nazi's in USA.
I'm not sure why you the got so angry about stuff you made up in your own head.
If anyone keeps the Nazi's alive it's bloody American White Supremacist groups, not Germans like me, we'd rather never see it ever again thanks..
You need to calm down a bit. And you do come across as very bitter and very angry about non whites.
Edited by tommunster10 on Tuesday 21st March 16:07
I never denied the existence of white supremacy, I said it's a non issue, it barely exists which is why you don't hear about it.
Maybe you can show the same rage in the thread about the white kid that was tortured on Facebook live. Oh yeah, it was more important to be outraged at Chemical Chaos associating them with BLM instead of the acts they perpetrated.
You think because I have mentioned White Supremacy that I don't care about a white person getting tortured by black people?! You mad bro?
I am disgusted at any story like that, the difference with you is you only care about people with white skin. I am a humanist, you are a racist. See?
You are obsessed with skin colour and feeling like you are getting a raw deal because you are white, so you are no different to the nutters in IS or the Black Panthers.
Edited by tommunster10 on Tuesday 21st March 17:42
Nanook said:
tommunster10 said:
It's a non issue? A non issue to a white bloke with leanings towards them maybe.
You think because I have mentioned White Supremacy that I don't care about a white person getting tortured by black people?! You mad bro?
I am disgusted at any story like that, the difference with you is you only care about people with white skin. I am a humanist, you are a racist. See?
You are obsessed with skin colour and feeling like you are getting a raw deal because you are white, so you are no different to the nutters in IS or the Black Panthers.
He's got Nazi leanings, only cares about white people, is a racist, who's obsessed with skin colour, and he's no different to the nutters in IS or the Black Panthers?You think because I have mentioned White Supremacy that I don't care about a white person getting tortured by black people?! You mad bro?
I am disgusted at any story like that, the difference with you is you only care about people with white skin. I am a humanist, you are a racist. See?
You are obsessed with skin colour and feeling like you are getting a raw deal because you are white, so you are no different to the nutters in IS or the Black Panthers.
Edited by tommunster10 on Tuesday 21st March 17:42
f
k, you're insane!You and the other chap have deflected away from 50stang the hole he dug himself..well done...
And yes without doubt 50 stang is a racist and i reckon he is part of a Neo Nazi group of some sort..
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