Make America Great Again

[5ohmustang]

It's a great day to be an American. As I sip on a cold ice tea and play with my new Chevy 350 small block, I reflect on how the last 8 years has changed so much for the worse.

These 8 years have been a rapid decline in America due to the Democrats running the government into the ground. We were promised hope and change, all we got was the opposite. I've seen families destroyed, morals disappear, towns devasted, businesses collapse, municipalities bankrupt, promotion of racial segregation, a war on cops, and hatred for the Constitution. Apparently we are supposed to be ashamed of being American. This is toxic leadership at its worse.

It's about time we took care of ourselves and let the rest of the world take care of itself. It's going to be a great thing. Nationalism not globalism. Liberty not liberal.

The Dems said they were going to end Enduring Freedom, yet I have been to 9 funerals as a result of the on going Democrats failure to provide change.

A pro constitution supreme Court justice will be appointed to maintain the balance and not overturn D.C. V Heller.

Killary needs to be investigated properly, as well as Huma's connection to Saudi Terror Groups. Heads need to roll in wallstreet and abolish the federal reserve. Tear up Obamacare and end the fractional reserve currency system.

It's still hard to believe against all odds and the lying mainstream media that Freedom endured.

President Trump has a lot of fixing to do, with that said,

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

[MarshPhantom]

It's also a great day not to be American.

[counterofbeans]

You'd think that the Donald would be far too busy today to post on PH?

[Maxf]

5ohmustang said:

Tear up Obamacare

This seems as good a thread as any to ask this. But what is the problem with Obamacare? As an outsider, I see it (headlines only, I admit) as providing a safety net for those unable to afford health insurance. I assume it isn't that simple?

[scherzkeks]

You forget that the Dem administration for the past 8 years largely continued policies set by Bush Jr. and his merry band of neocon thugs.

Perhaps the Don means what he says, we shall see. I don't see much changing though.

[Eric Mc]

When was America "great" before?

Or, what is "less great" about it now?

[eybic]

Maxf said:

5ohmustang said:

Tear up Obamacare

This seems as good a thread as any to ask this. But what is the problem with Obamacare? As an outsider, I see it (headlines only, I admit) as providing a safety net for those unable to afford health insurance. I assume it isn't that simple?

I don't understand this either, surely healthcare for everyone is a good thing????

[5ohmustang]

Maxf said:

This seems as good a thread as any to ask this. But what is the problem with Obamacare? As an outsider, I see it (headlines only, I admit) as providing a safety net for those unable to afford health insurance. I assume it isn't that simple?

When Obamacare was first touted the Dems make it out to be like the NHS. Totally free, go in see doctor, no prob.

Well if you don't have it you are forced to have or you are fined thousands. Well if I can't afford it in the first place what makes them think I can pay thousands every year. Don't pay the IRS you go to prison.

The monthly fees for Obamacare are insane, however you have a copay, I think this was called a deductable or excess in the UK. E.g. I have a staph infection I'm billed $6000, well the deductable on Obamacare could be $2000. Your paying that $2k. There's a reason why so many obamacare providers have gone under.

[eybic]

Interesting, I thought it was an NHS type thing.

[Camoradi]

Maxf said:

This seems as good a thread as any to ask this. But what is the problem with Obamacare? As an outsider, I see it (headlines only, I admit) as providing a safety net for those unable to afford health insurance. I assume it isn't that simple?

As I understand it, Obamacare isn't paid from general taxation, and could have been a factor in losing the democrats the election. In several of the key states people were facing premium increases of 20-40% next year.

[Bill]

eybic said:

Interesting, I thought it was an NHS type thing.

AIUI the republican house watered it down. But managed to blame Obama.

[5ohmustang]

eybic said:

Interesting, I thought it was an NHS type thing.

Not at all, that is how it was delivered to everyone though. The Dems that signed it into office had not even read from front to back the affordable Care act, yet signed it in.

I'd have no problem with an NHS system, this though is a totally different beast.

[Halmyre]

5ohmustang said:

It's a great day to be an American. As I sip on a cold ice tea and play with my new Chevy 350 small block,

I've never heard it called that before.

[TEKNOPUG]

Genuine question, when was the last time America was "great"?

[Maxf]

5ohmustang said:

When Obamacare was first touted the Dems make it out to be like the NHS. Totally free, go in see doctor, no prob.

Well if you don't have it you are forced to have or you are fined thousands. Well if I can't afford it in the first place what makes them think I can pay thousands every year. Don't pay the IRS you go to prison.

The monthly fees for Obamacare are insane, however you have a copay, I think this was called a deductable or excess in the UK. E.g. I have a staph infection I'm billed $6000, well the deductable on Obamacare could be $2000. Your paying that $2k. There's a reason why so many obamacare providers have gone under.

Thanks! Certainly not as I assumed it was - so it's basically an enforced insurance policy, with a large excess.

Like the posted above, I assumed it was a free level of basic healthcare.

[DapperDanMan]

Wasn't a lot of the problem with the Obama years that the Republican houses down the Avenue would not let things through. Surely some responsibility lies with the GOP.

Now you have the GOP across the board it will be easy to push any old crap through so you may end up with the opposite problem where there is no filtering of the man born to be King.

Also wasn't there an economic crash during the Obama years as well which was outside of his control but was nurtured under the previous Republican President.

[anonymous-user]

Again?

[ZedLeg]

DapperDanMan said:

Wasn't a lot of the problem with the Obama years that the Republican houses down the Avenue would not let things through. Surely some responsibility lies with the GOP.

Now you have the GOP across the board it will be easy to push any old crap through so you may end up with the opposite problem where there is no filtering of the man born to be King.

Also wasn't there an economic crash during the Obama years as well which was outside of his control but was nurtured under the previous Republican President.

Yes and yes, #THANKSOBAMA was so catchy though.

[Eric Mc]

DapperDanMan said:

Also wasn't there an economic crash during the Obama years as well which was outside of his control but was nurtured under the previous Republican President.

And facilitated by the relaxing of banking restrictions by Bill Clinton.

Every President has to deal with the legacy of previous administrations.

[Mr Tracy]

5ohmustang said:

When Obamacare was first touted the Dems make it out to be like the NHS. Totally free, go in see doctor, no prob.

Huh, so just to clarify. You do know that the NHS isn't exactly free as such? We pay for it out of our wages. Its automatically taken out of our wages by the government along with income tax.