Make America Great Again
Discussion
Mr Tracy said:
Huh, so just to clarify. You do know that the NHS isn't exactly free as such? We pay for it out of our wages. Its automatically taken out of our wages by the government along with income tax.
What do you mean "along with Income Tax"?It IS funded by Income Tax (and lots of other taxes too).
Did you think that your National Insurance payments were to fund the NHS?
Mr Tracy said:
Huh, so just to clarify. You do know that the NHS isn't exactly free as such? We pay for it out of our wages. Its automatically taken out of our wages by the government along with income tax.
It doesn't come with a $2,000 excess though, as in the OPs example!It is free at the point of use, which I think is what he meant - obviously it is paid for at some point.
DapperDanMan said:
Now you have the GOP across the board it will be easy to push any old crap through so you may end up with the opposite problem where there is no filtering of the man born to be King.
Yes and no. Trump isn't really GOP, indeed he is a massive problem for the future of the GOP. Not all of the GOP's congress men and senators are clinically insane either, so if Trump tries to push forward economically suicidally stupid ideas, he'll meet real opposition from the realists.In particular I do wonder how the GOP is going to react to the idea of a public spending bonanza on infrastructure when the size of the federal budget and the national debt is one of their key complaints?
Eric Mc said:
DapperDanMan said:
Also wasn't there an economic crash during the Obama years as well which was outside of his control but was nurtured under the previous Republican President.
And facilitated by the relaxing of banking restrictions by Bill Clinton.Every President has to deal with the legacy of previous administrations.
"These 8 years have been a rapid decline in America due to the Democrats running the government into the ground. We were promised hope and change, all we got was the opposite. I've seen families destroyed, morals disappear, towns devastated, businesses collapse, municipalities bankrupt, promotion of racial segregation, a war on cops, and hatred for the Constitution. Apparently we are supposed to be ashamed of being American. This is toxic leadership at its worse."
It is way to simplistic to just say Democrat bad Republican good the Republican party had as much to do with the decline of the USA as the President (by decline I am repeating what others have said it isn't my own opinion).
Eric Mc said:
What do you mean "along with Income Tax"?
It IS funded by Income Tax (and lots of other taxes too).
Did you think that your National Insurance payments were to fund the NHS?
What I mean is, when I look at my wage slip it says:It IS funded by Income Tax (and lots of other taxes too).
Did you think that your National Insurance payments were to fund the NHS?
NI xxxxx
IT xxxxx
So NI (Nation Insurance) is distinguished from Income Tax.
I was under the impression that National Insurance is used to pay for:
•The NHS
•Unemployment benefit
•Sickness and disability allowances
•The state pension
Seemingly it's just pensions and benefits: https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance/what-nationa...
Mr Tracy said:
What I mean is, when I look at my wage slip it says:
NI xxxxx
IT xxxxx
So NI (Nation Insurance) is distinguished from Income Tax.
I was under the impression that National Insurance is used to pay for:
•The NHS
•Unemployment benefit
•Sickness and disability allowances
•The state pension
It all goes into the same big pot - along with all the other taxes paid by businesses. NI was set up pre World War ONE to fund state pensions. It has long since been subsumed into general funding for everything.NI xxxxx
IT xxxxx
So NI (Nation Insurance) is distinguished from Income Tax.
I was under the impression that National Insurance is used to pay for:
•The NHS
•Unemployment benefit
•Sickness and disability allowances
•The state pension
The vast bulk of NHS expenditure is funded by taxation rather than NI.
Mr Tracy said:
What I mean is, when I look at my wage slip it says:
NI xxxxx
IT xxxxx
So NI (Nation Insurance) is distinguished from Income Tax.
I was under the impression that National Insurance is used to pay for:
•The NHS
•Unemployment benefit
•Sickness and disability allowances
•The state pension
Nope. It all goes into one big pot. NHS spending is greater than the total of NIC receipts. Only by 5 or 6 £billion or so though.NI xxxxx
IT xxxxx
So NI (Nation Insurance) is distinguished from Income Tax.
I was under the impression that National Insurance is used to pay for:
•The NHS
•Unemployment benefit
•Sickness and disability allowances
•The state pension
Eric Mc said:
It all goes into the same big pot - along with all the other taxes paid by businesses. NI was set up pre World War ONE to fund state pensions. It has long since been subsumed into general funding for everything.
The vast bulk of NHS expenditure is funded by taxation rather than NI.
Fair enough, either way its paid for The vast bulk of NHS expenditure is funded by taxation rather than NI.
Eric Mc said:
And facilitated by the relaxing of banking restrictions by Bill Clinton.
Every President has to deal with the legacy of previous administrations.
This. As I have pointed out numerous times the Bush administration tried multiple times to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and was stymied by Congress.Every President has to deal with the legacy of previous administrations.
Mr Tracy said:
Huh, so just to clarify. You do know that the NHS isn't exactly free as such? We pay for it out of our wages. Its automatically taken out of our wages by the government along with income tax.
I lived in the UK for the most of my life. The charge is nothing like paying 500 quid a month for crappy healthcare.5ohmustang said:
It's a great day to be an American. As I sip on a cold ice tea and play with my new Chevy 350 small block, I reflect on how the last 8 years has changed so much for the worse.
These 8 years have been a rapid decline in America due to the Democrats running the government into the ground. We were promised hope and change, all we got was the opposite. I've seen families destroyed, morals disappear, towns devasted, businesses collapse, municipalities bankrupt, promotion of racial segregation, a war on cops, and hatred for the Constitution. Apparently we are supposed to be ashamed of being American. This is toxic leadership at its worse.
It's about time we took care of ourselves and let the rest of the world take care of itself. It's going to be a great thing. Nationalism not globalism. Liberty not liberal.
The Dems said they were going to end Enduring Freedom, yet I have been to 9 funerals as a result of the on going Democrats failure to provide change.
A pro constitution supreme Court justice will be appointed to maintain the balance and not overturn D.C. V Heller.
Killary needs to be investigated properly, as well as Huma's connection to Saudi Terror Groups. Heads need to roll in wallstreet and abolish the federal reserve. Tear up Obamacare and end the fractional reserve currency system.
It's still hard to believe against all odds and the lying mainstream media that Freedom endured.
President Trump has a lot of fixing to do, with that said,
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
And good luck to you Sir. I'm hoping this is the start of the end of PC, something that has crippled us for years. When you hear that the boss has more interest in gender neutral toilets than his country going bust, its over!!!These 8 years have been a rapid decline in America due to the Democrats running the government into the ground. We were promised hope and change, all we got was the opposite. I've seen families destroyed, morals disappear, towns devasted, businesses collapse, municipalities bankrupt, promotion of racial segregation, a war on cops, and hatred for the Constitution. Apparently we are supposed to be ashamed of being American. This is toxic leadership at its worse.
It's about time we took care of ourselves and let the rest of the world take care of itself. It's going to be a great thing. Nationalism not globalism. Liberty not liberal.
The Dems said they were going to end Enduring Freedom, yet I have been to 9 funerals as a result of the on going Democrats failure to provide change.
A pro constitution supreme Court justice will be appointed to maintain the balance and not overturn D.C. V Heller.
Killary needs to be investigated properly, as well as Huma's connection to Saudi Terror Groups. Heads need to roll in wallstreet and abolish the federal reserve. Tear up Obamacare and end the fractional reserve currency system.
It's still hard to believe against all odds and the lying mainstream media that Freedom endured.
President Trump has a lot of fixing to do, with that said,
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
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