Make America Great Again
Discussion
5ohmustang said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Genuine question, when was the last time America was "great"?
Summer 2008.I'm interested to see if Trump can deliver what he says. He has his opportunity and today's victory speech showed a lot more tact and a statesmanlike approach.
Interesting times ahead. I wonder if the sober bureaucratic realities of politics will hinder him more more than he anticipates.
Did he give any timeframes for things like the wall between Mexico and the US?
5ohmustang said:
I lived in the UK for the most of my life. The charge is nothing like paying 500 quid a month for crappy healthcare.
I lived most of my life in OZ, similar health care system to the UK. I was well looked after there in my times of need. Is there a plan to take care of the sick in the USA post obamacare?simo1863 said:
will you scale back on the 'prepping' now that the Trump is in charge?
Maybe downgrade into a simple stair dominator?
No I will stop. Killary was going to continue the globalists ponzi scheme. Trump won't stand for it, as a result they will attempt to engineer a global economic collapse and blame him. Maybe downgrade into a simple stair dominator?
This election showed how deep the collusion and corruption of the order. This is not over by a long shot.
Blimey - are the tin foil people now running the show?
Hopefully not and Trump has carefully folded up his tin foil attire and locked it away in a drawer.
He's got a real job to do now and, whether he likes it or not, he's going to have to talk to and discuss matters with other world leaders.
"Making America Great" does not equate to "Making America a Bully".
Hopefully not and Trump has carefully folded up his tin foil attire and locked it away in a drawer.
He's got a real job to do now and, whether he likes it or not, he's going to have to talk to and discuss matters with other world leaders.
"Making America Great" does not equate to "Making America a Bully".
5ohmustang said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Genuine question, when was the last time America was "great"?
Summer 2008.I can see why the "Make America Great Again" strap-line was so seductive
5ohmustang said:
It's a great day to be an American. As I sip on a cold ice tea and play with my new Chevy 350 small block, I reflect on how the last 8 years has changed so much for the worse.
These 8 years have been a rapid decline in America due to the Democrats running the government into the ground. We were promised hope and change, all we got was the opposite. I've seen families destroyed, morals disappear, towns devasted, businesses collapse, municipalities bankrupt, promotion of racial segregation, a war on cops, and hatred for the Constitution. Apparently we are supposed to be ashamed of being American. This is toxic leadership at its worse.
It's about time we took care of ourselves and let the rest of the world take care of itself. It's going to be a great thing. Nationalism not globalism. Liberty not liberal.
The Dems said they were going to end Enduring Freedom, yet I have been to 9 funerals as a result of the on going Democrats failure to provide change.
A pro constitution supreme Court justice will be appointed to maintain the balance and not overturn D.C. V Heller.
Killary needs to be investigated properly, as well as Huma's connection to Saudi Terror Groups. Heads need to roll in wallstreet and abolish the federal reserve. Tear up Obamacare and end the fractional reserve currency system.
It's still hard to believe against all odds and the lying mainstream media that Freedom endured.
President Trump has a lot of fixing to do, with that said,
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Congratulations mustang could not agree with you more.These 8 years have been a rapid decline in America due to the Democrats running the government into the ground. We were promised hope and change, all we got was the opposite. I've seen families destroyed, morals disappear, towns devasted, businesses collapse, municipalities bankrupt, promotion of racial segregation, a war on cops, and hatred for the Constitution. Apparently we are supposed to be ashamed of being American. This is toxic leadership at its worse.
It's about time we took care of ourselves and let the rest of the world take care of itself. It's going to be a great thing. Nationalism not globalism. Liberty not liberal.
The Dems said they were going to end Enduring Freedom, yet I have been to 9 funerals as a result of the on going Democrats failure to provide change.
A pro constitution supreme Court justice will be appointed to maintain the balance and not overturn D.C. V Heller.
Killary needs to be investigated properly, as well as Huma's connection to Saudi Terror Groups. Heads need to roll in wallstreet and abolish the federal reserve. Tear up Obamacare and end the fractional reserve currency system.
It's still hard to believe against all odds and the lying mainstream media that Freedom endured.
President Trump has a lot of fixing to do, with that said,
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Tampon said:
5ohmustang said:
It's a great day to be an American.
You are not an American are you. You live there.You are Bob from Birmingham with a stetson and faux fawning for an imagined belief.
Nothing like the conviction of a convert.
TEKNOPUG said:
So just before Lehmans collapsed and took the rest of the world with it? That was the last time America was "great" and that's what the Trump is going to take you back to - imminent global financial collapse?
I can see why the "Make America Great Again" strap-line was so seductive
That was the last time America was great. A totally different America to the depression the Dems have caused.I can see why the "Make America Great Again" strap-line was so seductive
I also forgot to mention on Obamacare, it's such a great (sarcasm) system politicians are exempt from having to have it inline the average Joe. Lead from the front, right?
BlackLabel said:
Obama inherited a pretty dire economy (and a country heavily involved in 2 major foreign invasions). With that in mind I think history will judge him more kindly than many republicans think.
It's still dire. The jobs they're adding are part time, replacing proper jobs. They've rapidly gone further into the red. Obama has achieved something similar to Blair and Brown. If everything was ticking over fine then they wouldn't have just elected Trump.5ohmustang said:
TEKNOPUG said:
So just before Lehmans collapsed and took the rest of the world with it? That was the last time America was "great" and that's what the Trump is going to take you back to - imminent global financial collapse?
I can see why the "Make America Great Again" strap-line was so seductive
That was the last time America was great. A totally different America to the depression the Dems have caused.I can see why the "Make America Great Again" strap-line was so seductive
I also forgot to mention on Obamacare, it's such a great (sarcasm) system politicians are exempt from having to have it inline the average Joe. Lead from the front, right?
5ohmustang said:
That was the last time America was great. A totally different America to the depression the Dems have caused.
I also forgot to mention on Obamacare, it's such a great (sarcasm) system politicians are exempt from having to have it inline the average Joe. Lead from the front, right?
I don't remember ANY Americans jumping up and down celebrating in 2007 shouting "Gee, aren't we just great right now".I also forgot to mention on Obamacare, it's such a great (sarcasm) system politicians are exempt from having to have it inline the average Joe. Lead from the front, right?
This "feeling great" thing is totally fictitious and effectively plays on peoples' perceived memory of some previous time being better than "now".
Indeed, people tend to think that past times were better and that future times MAY be better but that right now is rubbish.
It's a very common feeling in ANY era and one very easily exploited by populist politicians.
5ohmustang said:
TEKNOPUG said:
So just before Lehmans collapsed and took the rest of the world with it? That was the last time America was "great" and that's what the Trump is going to take you back to - imminent global financial collapse?
I can see why the "Make America Great Again" strap-line was so seductive
That was the last time America was great. A totally different America to the depression the Dems have caused.I can see why the "Make America Great Again" strap-line was so seductive
I also forgot to mention on Obamacare, it's such a great (sarcasm) system politicians are exempt from having to have it inline the average Joe. Lead from the front, right?
All of which happened during 8 years of Republican Government. So if that's you're idea of "great", then it indeed may be possible for Trump to "make you great again".
BlackLabel said:
Obama inherited a pretty dire economy (and a country heavily involved in 2 major foreign invasions). With that in mind I think history will judge him more kindly than many republicans think.
Obama managed to massively increase the debt and get the US involved in even more conflict, as well as overseeing a massive amount of drone strikes and a huge increase in the surveillance state. I don't think history will see him as anything more than a conman of the 'Tony Blair' type.This is a bit like the "Put the Great back in Great Britain" thing where some people don't realise that in 2016 the world is a different place to what is was in the 1950s. On both sides of the Altantic we've seen a massive blue collar protest vote against the way they are suffering from the effects of the global free market. Voting EU or Clinton would have been voting for more of the same so they've voted for change. Whether things will get better is anyone's guess. My guess is that it just might in the UK for the majority, but in the US, I'm not convinced at all. I think they've understandably voted for change, but I don't think it's a good change.
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