Make America Great Again

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Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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It does mean though that things you say and do regarding your own "racist" views may influence others - who might go to further extremes than you might have ever considered.

You should always be aware of how your thoughts and words may influence others.

Have you ever seen the film or play, "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie"? It's well worth a watch as its main theme is about the effect of unintended or unexpected consequences.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
You're obsessed with the word more than Eric is with Trump..
Remind me, what is this thread supposed to be about?

tommunster10

1,128 posts

92 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Funkycoldribena said:
You're obsessed with the word more than Eric is with Trump..
Remind me, what is this thread supposed to be about?
A British guy from Manchester on a mission to "make America great again".

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Oh - OK, my mistake.

I thought it was a Trump Thread.

I'll switch over to the "official" thread for future comments.

5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

116 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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In May 2011, the NSM was described by The New York Times as being "the largest supremacist group, with about 400 members in 32 states, though much of its prominence followed the decay of Aryan Nation and other neo-Nazi groups,"[15]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/us/11nazi.ht...

The msm, which you hold as a pillar of truth.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
In May 2011, the NSM was described by The New York Times as being "the largest supremacist group, with about 400 members in 32 states, though much of its prominence followed the decay of Aryan Nation and other neo-Nazi groups,"[15]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/us/11nazi.ht...

The msm, which you hold as a pillar of truth.
So the KKK isn't a white supremacist group - who knew!?

Every day's a schoolday on PH!

tommunster10

1,128 posts

92 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
In May 2011, the NSM was described by The New York Times as being "the largest supremacist group, with about 400 members in 32 states, though much of its prominence followed the decay of Aryan Nation and other neo-Nazi groups,"[15]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/us/11nazi.ht...

The msm, which you hold as a pillar of truth.
There are more than 400 White Supremacists then because NSM are not the only group. How many Muslim terrorists are currently in the USA?

5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

116 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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tommunster10 said:
There are more than 400 White Supremacists then because NSM are not the only group. How many Muslim terrorists are currently in the USA?
Right but that's not the argument here. I said according to SPLC who are the liberal champions of "hate group monitoring", the largest white supremacist group in USA was the NSM that you chose to mention, probably because it makes it look like there are so many bad white people here. So if 400 people belong to the largest group and no doubt there are others, maybe a couple of thousand. Relative to a population of 400,000,000 and a massive land mass, it's hardly worth a non white person worrying about.

Do you really think all the non white people I know walk in fear that they will be attacked? Absolutely not.

So stop your white shaming and stop accusing others that do not share your view point of belonging to neo nazi organizations.


Edited by 5ohmustang on Wednesday 22 March 14:17

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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tommunster10 said:
There are more than 400 White Supremacists then because NSM are not the only group. How many Muslim terrorists are currently in the USA?
Well thats the issue isn't it pal. Lets take the orlando shooting for example and feel free to trawl twitter for white supremacists raving over the church shooting if you so wish. The orlando shooting not only caused a massive erection for jihadists, it set Arabic twitter ablaze with so much hatred for gays, infact looking at various polls of the middle east/far east/africa show that Islam as practised nearly the world over instils a deep hatred of gays, so much so this guy would of been a heroic executioner had this happened in some secret gay club in saudi or iran or the UAE where public and state opinion go hand in hand. Now call me a racist or a nazi but even if i dislike the modern pride parade and as i stated before the "Stereotypical uber camp guy" or "ultra bull-dyke" but seeing them killed was a kick in my goose stepping hate spewing teeth.

rscott

14,763 posts

192 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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For some reason, 5oh & his new sidekick reminded me of this, spotted on FB recently..

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Lol, in Germany we call everyone nazis. Honestly, turn on a news show now and again, its why when i spent a long time there i refused to go anywhere near the TV,it's why when you go to museums to enjoy Germany's deeper richer culture before it unified but still being bombarded with this fixation over ww2.

Why aren't we castrating ourselves for the boarwar concentration camps, why arent we raking turks through the coals for genociding armenians?

TTwiggy

11,548 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Lol, in Germany we call everyone nazis. Honestly, turn on a news show now and again, its why when i spent a long time there i refused to go anywhere near the TV,it's why when you go to museums to enjoy Germany's deeper richer culture before it unified but still being bombarded with this fixation over ww2.

Why aren't we castrating ourselves for the boarwar concentration camps, why arent we raking turks through the coals for genociding armenians?
Why are you so angry about everything?


<looks at picture on poster's profile page> Oh... I see.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Haha, jesus, i forgot that was on there.

TTwiggy

11,548 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Haha, jesus, i forgot that was on there.
smile

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Lol, in Germany we call everyone nazis. Honestly, turn on a news show now and again, its why when i spent a long time there i refused to go anywhere near the TV,it's why when you go to museums to enjoy Germany's deeper richer culture before it unified but still being bombarded with this fixation over ww2.

Why aren't we castrating ourselves for the boarwar concentration camps, why arent we raking turks through the coals for genociding armenians?
The fixation with Nazis seems to be entirely yours. My OH is Austrian, and being born on the border, she has family and many friends in Germany. We've visted Berlin, Mainz, Munich, Vienna, Linz, Bregenz, Frankfurt, Berchtesgarten in recent years, and - aside from the politics of hate that fuels AfD - Nazism just doesn't come up. Perhaps in the very occasional episode of Tatort?

There are genuinely felt feelings of remorse that are encapsulated in the Holocaust memorial in Berlin. But that's what it is. Germans choose not to deny it. It's only you (and a few other stange people) who get irate at this.

And as I said before, fascicm has not gone away, and needs to be called out whenever it shows up.

tvrolet

4,277 posts

283 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Have you ever seen the film or play, "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie"? It's well worth a watch as its main theme is about the effect of unintended or unexpected consequences.
A strange link indeed. One might also consider the manipulation of others and betrayal as significant themes. And on the subject of tenuous links, my late MIL was in the same class at school as Muriel Spark (the author) and so gets a look-in in all the school photos in Muriel Spark's biography. And looking out my window across the Forth I see the wee castle at Crammond where Mr Lowther lived [in the film]; not quite sure how he could afford that on a teachers' salary.

Now...back to making America Great Again...

Just back from the annual Ski-Jaunt to California and the opportunity to chat with loads of Americans on the ski lifts and in bars. At least some of the folks will usually want to talk politics and last year all the talk was of Clinton vs Trump, and an almost universal view that both were dire candidates and it would be a case of voting for the candidate representing the party for party-faithful, or the least-bad for the floating voters. This year I expected a fair bit of discussion on Trump, especially in California; but astonishingly not a word! Brexit came up; hell, I even got quizzed on Nicola Kranky and Sottish independence; but not a word was spoken on domestic politics. As far as I could tell, most folks I spoke to seemed to be in denial Trump was actually President! And certainly no talk of making America great again.

5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

116 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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tvrolet said:
A strange link indeed. One might also consider the manipulation of others and betrayal as significant themes. And on the subject of tenuous links, my late MIL was in the same class at school as Muriel Spark (the author) and so gets a look-in in all the school photos in Muriel Spark's biography. And looking out my window across the Forth I see the wee castle at Crammond where Mr Lowther lived [in the film]; not quite sure how he could afford that on a teachers' salary.

Now...back to making America Great Again...

Just back from the annual Ski-Jaunt to California and the opportunity to chat with loads of Americans on the ski lifts and in bars. At least some of the folks will usually want to talk politics and last year all the talk was of Clinton vs Trump, and an almost universal view that both were dire candidates and it would be a case of voting for the candidate representing the party for party-faithful, or the least-bad for the floating voters. This year I expected a fair bit of discussion on Trump, especially in California; but astonishingly not a word! Brexit came up; hell, I even got quizzed on Nicola Kranky and Sottish independence; but not a word was spoken on domestic politics. As far as I could tell, most folks I spoke to seemed to be in denial Trump was actually President! And certainly no talk of making America great again.
It's California, the asshole of America. They're far more concerned with looking good in trendy bars, drinking $15 smoothies and thinking they got it made, than making America Great for the standard American.

tommunster10

1,128 posts

92 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Haha, jesus, i forgot that was on there.
Christ oh Lord above... I get it now.... I pictured quite a powerfully built hard man by your posting style... oh my.

Countdown

39,963 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
It's California, the asshole of America. They're far more concerned with looking good in trendy bars, drinking $15 smoothies and thinking they got it made, than making America Great for the standard American.
The richest, most developed, most educated, and most economically productive parts of the US tend to be the East and West Coasts. To drink a $15 smoothie means you need to earn enough to waste money on $15 smoothies. I would much rather live there than in some swamp-ridden outback boasting about how good raccoon roadkill tastes.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Don't tell me racoons drive in those parts of the US!