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5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

115 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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tommunster10 said:
I'd imagine people in Iraq when a US drone kills their family don't recover from that either. Or when 5 US soldiers rape and kill a 14 year old girl, I doubt her family would of recovered from that, well the ones left that they didn't kill that is.
There have been a lot of despicable acts of terror and I don't like any of them. You seem to be selective though. Bit like the American bars that used to have IRA collection buckets, but then of course terrorism was only invented after 9/11.
I hope one day in your lifetime, you find closure on the repressed shame and guilt you bare, for whatever that may be.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
I hope one day in your lifetime, you find closure on the repressed shame and guilt you bare, for whatever that may be.
Truly a dick.

Let us know when you feel like talking about that white supremacist in New York, one of your fellow military buddies? Would seem you ain't the only ahole to have been in the US Army.

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39,885 posts

196 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
I hope one day in your lifetime, you find closure on the repressed shame and guilt you bare, for whatever that may be.
It's "bear", as in "the right to bear arms".

You'd think that fukcwits who take pride in defending the so-called "Constitution" would at least know how to spell the words enshrined therein.....

tommunster10

1,128 posts

91 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
tommunster10 said:
I'd imagine people in Iraq when a US drone kills their family don't recover from that either. Or when 5 US soldiers rape and kill a 14 year old girl, I doubt her family would of recovered from that, well the ones left that they didn't kill that is.
There have been a lot of despicable acts of terror and I don't like any of them. You seem to be selective though. Bit like the American bars that used to have IRA collection buckets, but then of course terrorism was only invented after 9/11.
I hope one day in your lifetime, you find closure on the repressed shame and guilt you bare, for whatever that may be.
No shame or guilt? Why should i have? Please explain further?

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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tommunster10 said:
I'd imagine people in Iraq when a US drone kills their family
They were already reeling from living in a totalitarian hell hole, full of mass graves, secret police and chemical weapons.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
You want to live in a world where you see pictures of paramedics try to save the lives of terrorists?

I want to live in a world where every blood thirsty terrorist is thirty mike miked to the face.
Ah, you see, you've blown it now with the L33T speak smile

Had us all going for a while though!

M.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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For context:

London

Population: ca. 8,500,000

Murders in 2015: 118

Tennessee

Population: ca. 6,500,000

Murders in 2015: 406

Edited by schmunk on Friday 24th March 14:10

tommunster10

1,128 posts

91 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
tommunster10 said:
I'd imagine people in Iraq when a US drone kills their family
They were already reeling from living in a totalitarian hell hole, full of mass graves, secret police and chemical weapons.
Yes they most likely were, whats your point? Bomb them because they were helpless and fooked already? Better off dead?

rscott

14,758 posts

191 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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tommunster10 said:
MrBrightSi said:
tommunster10 said:
I'd imagine people in Iraq when a US drone kills their family
They were already reeling from living in a totalitarian hell hole, full of mass graves, secret police and chemical weapons.
Yes they most likely were, whats your point? Bomb them because they were helpless and fooked already? Better off dead?
Seems to be what the US led coalition did a couple of days ago in Syria - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-393504...

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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We're damned if we do or don't to be quite honest.
I'd rather shut the gates, lets go back to how it was when Islam was something that was trying to break through the gates of Vienna, that took 800 years to remove the "golden age" of brutality of the moors.

However I am not completely retarded, I see that we can't "go back" as it were. We either interfere and there is collateral which is a sickening way to put innocent loss of life, or we sit here by the side lines and do nothing and watch the death anyhow.

If you want a bit of a window into what is boiling my piss, watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIfuq5AkSyA
There you have the attitudes of a very pretty but insanely mixed up young British woman. The rest of the episode sees Maajid Nawaz going almost blue trying to challenge these ideas, but you see the deep down ideals held and you tell me we can somehow hold hands and be best mates. All i can see is the climate of fear and distrust in the west growing. As Islam takes a bigger place in the West things will become very tribal, not only must we deal with the segregation of white and non-white cultures but we must deal with the hatred of these cultures for each other.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
Shakermaker said:
Indeed. Context is important with exactly what he said (which he said after the bombs in New York, but were just retweeted this with by DJT Jr out of said context...)

Living in a big city = increased risk from terrorism.

Which should lead us to:

Living in a big city = increased risk from terrorism = increased security, either overt or covert, as well as increased preparedness for the outcome of an attack. Such as making sure hospitals have the capacity, there is a designated structure of who does what in an event of a serious attack.

So in London, we saw the outcome of that happen after an attack. Lots of people rushed in who were able to help, and the emergency services did what they could.

In the USA, and I am not entirely familiar with where you live 5oh but I recognise that Alabama is not the same as the middle of LA or NYC etc. However, the choice that has been made by the USA authorities include giving their police officers firearms, and in many cases, allowing private citizens the ability to carry around their own personal firearms.
I'd also expect that in the larger towns and cities, there's a hierarchy of people who take charge in such situations, and at what stage the various forces (local PD, EMTs/Paramedics, state police, FBI, National Guard etc etc) but in NYC or LA, there are more likely to be specially trained officers and officials who can deal with the "terrorism" aspect of the threat/outcome of the event.

That, is what Sadiq Khan was referring to in his interview in May last year. I find it hard to disagree with what he has said, but it was quickly spun out of context by those who seek to discredit him.
Khan of Londistan's comments "part and parcel of living in a city" are nothing more than words of accepting defeat to extremism.

In that same article he offered no real solutions. Just the usual spiel, see something say something, solidarity etc, to which has the same results as Facebook filters and hashtags.

For a mayor to come out and say we need to accept this potential risk because we're a bigger target than say a small town is unacceptable and toxic leadership. It took him 5 hours to appear on camera?

While I understand what you are saying, I did not see that same message in The Independent article at all.

Khan associates himself with the globalists and the Clinton Cult. He refuses to let go of the collapsing European Union and opts for open borders, pissing on any resemblance of British sovereignty.

Eitherway I hope the fallen rest in peace and their families, words will not help, it's beyond words. I have lost 2 of my friends to Jihadists, it's something you will never recover from.

For those that helped, they should be honoured.

It was a cowardly, dispicable act, if investigations prove family members had prior knowledge of the attack, they should be stripped of citizenship and deported.
No, it isn't accepting defeat to extremism. It is accepting that there is a likelihood of attack and that action and plans are in place, and that the right people are in place to enact them. I don't believe that this is a wrong opinion to have, regardless of the political affiliations of the person who said it.

But yes, we do all agree that this was a cowardly and despicable act.


berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
If you want a bit of a window into what is boiling my piss, watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIfuq5AkSyA
There you have the attitudes of a very pretty but insanely mixed up young British woman. The rest of the episode sees Maajid Nawaz going almost blue trying to challenge these ideas, but you see the deep down ideals held and you tell me we can somehow hold hands and be best mates. All i can see is the climate of fear and distrust in the west growing. As Islam takes a bigger place in the West things will become very tribal, not only must we deal with the segregation of white and non-white cultures but we must deal with the hatred of these cultures for each other.
You could quite easily point to a bakery that refused to make a cake for a gay couple as it offended their christian beliefs, extremists exists in all religions, what boils your piss religious extremists or just muslim extremists?

Edited by berlintaxi on Friday 24th March 14:36

tommunster10

1,128 posts

91 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
We're damned if we do or don't to be quite honest.
I'd rather shut the gates, lets go back to how it was when Islam was something that was trying to break through the gates of Vienna, that took 800 years to remove the "golden age" of brutality of the moors.

However I am not completely retarded, I see that we can't "go back" as it were. We either interfere and there is collateral which is a sickening way to put innocent loss of life, or we sit here by the side lines and do nothing and watch the death anyhow.

If you want a bit of a window into what is boiling my piss, watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIfuq5AkSyA
There you have the attitudes of a very pretty but insanely mixed up young British woman. The rest of the episode sees Maajid Nawaz going almost blue trying to challenge these ideas, but you see the deep down ideals held and you tell me we can somehow hold hands and be best mates. All i can see is the climate of fear and distrust in the west growing. As Islam takes a bigger place in the West things will become very tribal, not only must we deal with the segregation of white and non-white cultures but we must deal with the hatred of these cultures for each other.
You said it anyway, you'd rather shut the gates and go back to how it was... wow.
It's easy to find a positive example of Muslims and its easy to find a negative one. Same as Fred West and Stephen Hawking were both human beings.
Plenty of Muslims who work as Doctors and even a load who are UK service personnel. It's not a game though. You should really at your age know that some people are bad and some are good and some are just in-between trying to get on in life and all sections of life have those types of humans, pretending one set it worse to make you feel better or push an agenda puts you into the 'bad' category IMO.

This may make you vomit. But try to open your mind a bit..

http://afma.org.uk/


Edited by tommunster10 on Friday 24th March 14:39

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39,885 posts

196 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
We're damned if we do or don't to be quite honest.
I'd rather shut the gates, lets go back to how it was when Islam was something that was trying to break through the gates of Vienna, that took 800 years to remove the "golden age" of brutality of the moors.

However I am not completely retarded, I see that we can't "go back" as it were. We either interfere and there is collateral which is a sickening way to put innocent loss of life, or we sit here by the side lines and do nothing and watch the death anyhow.

If you want a bit of a window into what is boiling my piss, watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIfuq5AkSyA
There you have the attitudes of a very pretty but insanely mixed up young British woman. The rest of the episode sees Maajid Nawaz going almost blue trying to challenge these ideas, but you see the deep down ideals held and you tell me we can somehow hold hands and be best mates. All i can see is the climate of fear and distrust in the west growing. As Islam takes a bigger place in the West things will become very tribal, not only must we deal with the segregation of white and non-white cultures but we must deal with the hatred of these cultures for each other.
The homophobic views held by muslims aren't much different from those held by other right-wing/far rght wing cultures. In fact if you look at Eastern Europe, Africa, Russia, even the Deep South in the USA hold similar, if not exactly the same, views. In fact they were pretty much the norm when i was growing up in the UK, and that wasn't all that long ago. But our (UK) society has evolved and it's become far more liberal and tolerant, not just in relation to views on homosexuality but also women's rights, disabled rights and so on. That's why we have the decent society that we have.

Let's not try and cloud the issue with bull st though. Some people hate muslims. To try and rationalise or justify the hate they will use things such as homophobia, women's rights etc, ignoring the fact that these are most muslims manage to live in the UK without infringing these rights and that there are plenty of other cultures that have similar views. they absolutely NEED to focus on muslims.

Ironically 5watt probably shares the same views about homosexuals as ISIS.



MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Tom we all have childish desires, I always wanted to be a sailor in the high time of the British Empire, when we did st right, when we were the progressive superpower of the world, i mean it was us who abolished slavery, who blockaded Brazil and Africa all during what could be considered a world war against Napoleon.

The video i posted was a tiny drop in the ocean, a looking glass to moderate views in Islam and unfortunately the ones held by a lot of Muslims(polls polls polls polls), the christian bakery thing was a gigantic storm in a teacup, you don't want to bake a cake, so be it, when you realise that money is colourblind you might have your eyes opened.
However, when your religion forbids you from being gay, labelling you as a child of lot or some st, there's going to be problems with violence. Oh, you mean there already is? What is it refusing to bake a cake? No, it's a multitude of wonderful death penalty options that only take place in the Islamic world. How much more can i say that we are not perfect, but we are not comparable to the evil that flows from the Islamic world.

Oh and if you don't think i condemn christian idiocy enough RIP Galileo

rscott

14,758 posts

191 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
We're damned if we do or don't to be quite honest.
I'd rather shut the gates, lets go back to how it was when Islam was something that was trying to break through the gates of Vienna, that took 800 years to remove the "golden age" of brutality of the moors.

However I am not completely retarded, I see that we can't "go back" as it were. We either interfere and there is collateral which is a sickening way to put innocent loss of life, or we sit here by the side lines and do nothing and watch the death anyhow.

If you want a bit of a window into what is boiling my piss, watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIfuq5AkSyA
There you have the attitudes of a very pretty but insanely mixed up young British woman. The rest of the episode sees Maajid Nawaz going almost blue trying to challenge these ideas, but you see the deep down ideals held and you tell me we can somehow hold hands and be best mates. All i can see is the climate of fear and distrust in the west growing. As Islam takes a bigger place in the West things will become very tribal, not only must we deal with the segregation of white and non-white cultures but we must deal with the hatred of these cultures for each other.
Please move to the US and live with 5oh. You'd get along perfectly.

As for Muslims & homosexuality:-

wikipedia said:
The Ottoman Empire (predecessor of Turkey) decriminalized homosexuality in 1858. In Turkey, where 99.8% of the population is Muslim, homosexuality has never been criminalized since the day it was founded in 1923.[110] And LGBT people also have the right to seek asylum in Turkey under the Geneva Convention since 1951.[111]

Same-sex sexual intercourse is legal in Albania, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burkina Faso, Chad, Djibouti, Guinea-Bissau, Lebanon, Iraq (except those parts controlled by the Islamic State), Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Mali, Niger, Tajikistan, Turkey, West Bank (State of Palestine), most of Indonesia, and in Northern Cyprus. In Albania, Lebanon, and Turkey, there have been discussions about legalizing same-sex marriage.[20][21] Albania, Northern Cyprus and Kosovo also protect LGBT people with anti-discrimination laws.[112]
I can find you plenty of videos of white Christians saying homosexuality is wrong - for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hU0PUDrtfQ

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Yes, you can find plenty of Christians who don't agree in homosexuality. However, where in the judeo-christian world will being gay get you dead?

in regards to moving to the US, i'd love to, it's a big beautiful country, it's the cultural progeny of Europe and maybe one of the few correct republics with an enviable constitution.

Edited by MrBrightSi on Friday 24th March 15:05

roachcoach

3,975 posts

155 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Yes, you can find plenty of Christians who don't agree in homosexuality. However, where in the judeo-christian world will being gay get you dead?
Did you miss the top gear where they went into the deep south of america?

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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No, no, come on. Where in the Judeo-christian world will being gay, in the eyes of the government and law, get you dead?

Spoiler: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/gay-...

Edited by MrBrightSi on Friday 24th March 15:11

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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What do you define as the "Chistian-Judeo" world?

I presume you must be excluding some Christian countries where hard line attitudes are still prevelant.