Make America Great Again

[anonymous-user]

KrissKross said:

I have just returned from a 4 week tour of the USA, top to bottom for work in several major cities. What a fantastic place.

PH is tame compared to most of the views I came across, the primary (filtered) view is that religious integration and multiculturalism simply does not work. Read from that what you will.

Anyone care to name a place where it does work?

Probably all the cities you visited in America.

[Sylvaforever]

rscott said:

KrissKross said:

And people complain this thread seems like an echo chamber with no meaningful discussions..

Considering your posting history it is (not) surprising that you cannot avoid your tribalism when the issue is moving the poorest of society away from the debt trap that awaits serious illness that Obama care was in reality.
Champagne Socialism at it's finest!

[5ohmustang]

berlintaxi said:

You could quite easily point to a bakery that refused to make a cake for a gay couple as it offended their christian beliefs, extremists exists in all religions, what boils your piss religious extremists or just muslim extremists?

Edited by berlintaxi on Friday 24th March 14:36

And? It was their right as a private business to serve whoever they want for whatever reasons they choose. No the tolerant left didn't see it that way.

Soon after the lesbian couple gloated on social media what they had done, real tolerant, real liberal.

So Mrbrightsi, you can see right here in this thread why Europe is in the situation it is in now. Not because of Islamic terrorism, but much worse. It is within, when these are the views of people, apologists, "tolerants", leftists and politically correct cry babies.

Europe is crumbling from the within because it's core is weak. Have a strong foundation and you will not sweat the small stuff. The EU removed sovereign powers and decision making, then replaced it with impotent euro leftists.

[p1stonhead]

Trump just pulled the wealthcare bill because it didn't have enough suppprt on the vote

[5ohmustang]

KrissKross said:

I have just returned from a 4 week tour of the USA, top to bottom for work in several major cities. What a fantastic place.

PH is tame compared to most of the views I came across, the primary (filtered) view is that religious integration and multiculturalism simply does not work. Read from that what you will.

Anyone care to name a place where it does work?

Interesting viewpoint. It's the one I see on a daily basis, the only one I see.

I am glad you found it fantastic.

[5ohmustang]

KrissKross said:

[pinchmeimdreamin]

5ohmustang said:

KrissKross said:

I have just returned from a 4 week tour of the USA, top to bottom for work in several major cities. What a fantastic place.

PH is tame compared to most of the views I came across, the primary (filtered) view is that religious integration and multiculturalism simply does not work. Read from that what you will.

Anyone care to name a place where it does work?

Interesting viewpoint. It's the one I see on a daily basis, the only one I see.

I am glad you found it fantastic.

So you don't think multiculturalism works in the US ?

[5ohmustang]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

So you don't think multiculturalism works in the US ?

Some cultures have successfully integrated, while others have badly failed. The key issue being, assimilate to your newly adopted country and don't behave there like the place they originated from.

[5ohmustang]

KrissKross said:

I have just returned from a 4 week tour of the USA, top to bottom for work in several major cities. What a fantastic place.

PH is tame compared to most of the views I came across, the primary (filtered) view is that religious integration and multiculturalism simply does not work. Read from that what you will.

Anyone care to name a place where it does work?

You're a bad boy. You came on here, shared the majority view of Americans. It grates with the leftist view on here that subscribes to the liberal self hating ideology.

The internet unfortunately has given them a false sense of knowledge.

Prepare to join the troll list and be blocked from numerous topics.

[rscott]

Sylvaforever said:

rscott said:

KrissKross said:

And people complain this thread seems like an echo chamber with no meaningful discussions..

Considering your posting history it is (not) surprising that you cannot avoid your tribalism when the issue is moving the poorest of society away from the debt trap that awaits serious illness that Obama care was in reality.
Champagne Socialism at it's finest!

I've missed your wibbling - was it an enforced holiday? .

I've also never particularly commented on Obamacare here until now, so not sure how you know my views.

Personally, I thought the basic concept of trying to make healthcare available to all at an affordable price is a very good one, but the Obama implementation is flawed. It doesn't tackle the root causes​ of high healthcare costs nor allow for proper competition between providers.
Trump's replacement was terrible though - would have increased costs for many users plus not improve cover anyway for many.

[vsonix]

KrissKross said:

marcosgt said:

Isn't the whole basis of America Multi-culturalism?

The Irish, Germans, Chinese, Italians, Dutch...?

So you are suggesting Europeans can integrate with each other but others cannot?

And Chinese.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

5ohmustang said:

pinchmeimdreamin said:

So you don't think multiculturalism works in the US ?

Some cultures have successfully integrated, while others have badly failed. The key issue being, assimilate to your newly adopted country and don't behave there like the place they originated from.

So which cultures do you think have failed badly?

[Countdown]

vsonix said:

KrissKross said:

marcosgt said:

Isn't the whole basis of America Multi-culturalism?

The Irish, Germans, Chinese, Italians, Dutch...?

So you are suggesting Europeans can integrate with each other but others cannot?

And Chinese.

How are the native Americans doing with all the integrating?

[unrepentant]

Sylvaforever said:

rscott said:

KrissKross said:

And people complain this thread seems like an echo chamber with no meaningful discussions..

Considering your posting history it is (not) surprising that you cannot avoid your tribalism when the issue is moving the poorest of society away from the debt trap that awaits serious illness that Obama care was in reality.
Champagne Socialism at it's finest!

Explain how the affordable care act is "champagne socialism". Explain how a bill that removed lifetime limits, which existed before and led to millions of bankruptcies, is a "debt trap that awaits serious illness". It actually removed that possibility.

The ACC has deep flaws but they are there because the GOP obstructed and blocked the bill at every stage without offering a vision of their own. Obama should have rammed it through in the first two years without compromising.

We have now seen that the GOP are so bereft of ideas that they cannot come up with a workable alternative, even when they only need to convince their own side! This was all about political dogma and screw the people who actually need help and it deserved to fail. Unfortunately they are so divided as a party that it is difficult to see any progress being made before the new congress in 2019.

[MrBrightSi]

Countdown said:

How are the native Americans doing with all the integrating?

Drinking themselves to death most likely.

[p1stonhead]

unrepentant said:

Sylvaforever said:

rscott said:

KrissKross said:

And people complain this thread seems like an echo chamber with no meaningful discussions..

Considering your posting history it is (not) surprising that you cannot avoid your tribalism when the issue is moving the poorest of society away from the debt trap that awaits serious illness that Obama care was in reality.
Champagne Socialism at it's finest!

Explain how the affordable care act is "champagne socialism". Explain how a bill that removed lifetime limits, which existed before and led to millions of bankruptcies, is a "debt trap that awaits serious illness". It actually removed that possibility.

The ACC has deep flaws but they are there because the GOP obstructed and blocked the bill at every stage without offering a vision of their own. Obama should have rammed it through in the first two years without compromising.

We have now seen that the GOP are so bereft of ideas that they cannot come up with a workable alternative, even when they only need to convince their own side! This was all about political dogma and screw the people who actually need help and it deserved to fail. Unfortunately they are so divided as a party that it is difficult to see any progress being made before the new congress in 2019.

MAKE AMERICA WAIT AGAIN!

[5ohmustang]

MrBrightSi said:

Drinking themselves to death most likely.

Yes there are lot that drink heavily and use peyote. The reservations are typically ghettos or casinos. There are a lot that did integrate well with the new natives though. All the ones I have worked with drink a ton.

[NerveAgent]

The new natives not the new new ones though, they a very bad. So so bad.

[GroundEffect]

5ohmustang said:

MrBrightSi said:

Drinking themselves to death most likely.

Yes there are lot that drink heavily and use peyote. The reservations are typically ghettos or casinos. There are a lot that did integrate well with the new natives though. All the ones I have worked with drink a ton.

Per your earlier statements....shouldn't the Europeans be the ones integrating to the Native Americans culture? Or does that not count because reasons?

[5ohmustang]

MrBrightSi said:

Drinking themselves to death most likely.

Yes there are lot that drink heavily and use peyote. The reservations are typically ghettos or casinos. There are a lot that did integrate well with the new natives though. All the ones I have worked with drink a ton.