Make America Great Again

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Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Gene Rodenberry was, by all accounts, a lovely guy with an extremely optimistic view on mankind's future.

It would do us all a bit of good to be a bit more like him.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Problem is, we'd need people to stop being dicks.

There are a lot of dicks.

Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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And some of them even post on PH smile

There always will be people who we don't like. But there will also be plenty of people we do like - so think positive.

Being angry is not good for the soul - or for one's health.

I'm sure that chap who attacked Parliament on Wednesday had "anger" issues.

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Seems like the swamp is filling up, not draining... http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/po...

She hasn't sold her lobbying business yet, as required by federal regulations. Claims she's waiting for paperwork to be processed yet there's no record of it being submitted!

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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KrissKross said:
I have just returned from a 4 week tour of the USA, top to bottom for work in several major cities. What a fantastic place.

PH is tame compared to most of the views I came across, the primary (filtered) view is that religious integration and multiculturalism simply does not work. Read from that what you will.

Anyone care to name a place where it does work?
Australia. I am living in a suburb where the latest immigrants are African, in an area with lots of Chinese. It was largely Greek and Italian 40 years ago.


5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

115 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Trexthedinosaur said:
5oh, I am interested in your thoughts on the failure of the Medi bill to pass?

Do you agree with Trump that it is the democrats who undermined the bill even though republicans hold a majority in both houses?

Which election promises has Trump not reneged on?

Now I am not doing this because I want to see Trump fail, the people voted for him and the US, as one nation, should come together but I can't help feel that he is completely out of his depth and if failing in a big way.

What can he do to restore the faith?

As a 'rural' US citizen, your thoughts? (My us colleagues are all from 'blue' areas ... )
No it is the fault of both parties. The Republicans are Democrats V2.0. I have always said that prior to the election. The Democrats and the Republicans are the same party with different mascots. It is the illusion of choice which is why there is never any real choice.

President Trump is a breath of fresh air. He should have ran for the libertarian party from day one. Again something I said prior to the election.

I have zero faith in politicians, the deep state and the globalists. I do not hold the mindset that government will fix the problems, they just make everything worse, hence why I am transitioning to a full time homestead. President Trump is one man, he always had the establishment against him. This is not a surprise.

As for arguing with Unrepentant, I am not doing again. My argument in failing health care providers are on mainstream Google and on mainstream websites that y'all are so tied to.

Either take the information or do not. I'll laugh when those on Obummer blame President Trump for there being no healthcare providers left, they are too dumb to understand Obummer care is not a hospital or a provider.

Many other campaign promises will not be forfilled, no fault to President Trump. Congress term limits is another one that will not get passed. It takes a special kind of person to be a politician, absense of integrity and honor are some of the traits required.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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AW111 said:
Australia. I am living in a suburb where the latest immigrants are African, in an area with lots of Chinese. It was largely Greek and Italian 40 years ago.
Didn't Australia have similar sexual abuse gangs to the UK though?

Wasn't there an incident when some lovely chaps beat up a life guard too?

I'd use more of my "alt right" personal experiences on here but anecdotes are nothing compared to empirical evidence.

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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So the bill didn't get passed because it was the wrong sort of leaves on the track then? Or were they all washing their hair?

Countdown

39,864 posts

196 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
Many other campaign promises will not be forfilled, no fault to President Trump.
He was selling turds covered in glitter. Most sane people could smell that they were, indeed, turds. Others, like yourself, still refuse to believe that you've been sold turds.

5ohmustang said:
Congress term limits is another one that will not get passed.
One of the turds he sold you was the one about being a great dealmaker

Turd salesman "Obama wasn't a natural dealmaker"

Reality; Trump made to look incompetent

5ohmustang said:
It takes a special kind of person to be a politician, absense of integrity and honor are some of the traits required.
The multiple divorced, multiple bankrupt shyster who is currently sunning himself every weekened at his Mar A Lago resort and getting US taxpayers to pay the bill seems ideally qualified....

Countdown

39,864 posts

196 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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frisbee said:
So the bill didn't get passed because it was the wrong sort of leaves on the track then? Or were they all washing their hair?
Dems thought it went too far. Hardcore Republicans didn't think it went far enough. There weren't enough moderate Republicans to carry it through the House.

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
AW111 said:
Australia. I am living in a suburb where the latest immigrants are African, in an area with lots of Chinese. It was largely Greek and Italian 40 years ago.
Didn't Australia have similar sexual abuse gangs to the UK though?

Wasn't there an incident when some lovely chaps beat up a life guard too?

I'd use more of my "alt right" personal experiences on here but anecdotes are nothing compared to empirical evidence.
Of course, there were no crimes ever committed before those nasty foreign people arrived, were there!


Explain why this happened then? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-stabbin...

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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My post was regarding has a multicultural society ever worked, to which was posted Australia, in my limited reading there is plenty of examples of friction between cultures even in the land of 8 legged killing machines.

Post all the interracial crimes you want, to me it shows that on the whole whether we like it or not, we have deep ingrained in-group out-group preference. The west has managed to move past quite a lot of that, but when you get friction and misunderstanding and often non-violence hostility you end up with someone doing a vile act. Yes equal to our Westminster friend yes it's not just Muslims but right now, the biggest threat to Muslim and Non is Islam and sadly to say a large chuck of it's adherents.

I could also make excuses that being in the armed forces in Afghanistan probably didn't help, i remember my cousin telling me of a lovely Afghani past time of dressing up and noncing small boys and not being allowed to speak out against it. However, my cousin hasn't shanked a black yet so this guy is inexcusable.

I don't know your point Rscott, i could of said plenty of st about the vile racism coming out of the BLM camp and a lot of the stupidity that was thrown around post mike brown/trayvon/[insert criminal who got shot for good reason here] but it just doesn't seem right in a game of race crime one-ups-manship.

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
My post was regarding has a multicultural society ever worked, to which was posted Australia, in my limited reading there is plenty of examples of friction between cultures even in the land of 8 legged killing machines.

Post all the interracial crimes you want, to me it shows that on the whole whether we like it or not, we have deep ingrained in-group out-group preference. The west has managed to move past quite a lot of that, but when you get friction and misunderstanding and often non-violence hostility you end up with someone doing a vile act. Yes equal to our Westminster friend yes it's not just Muslims but right now, the biggest threat to Muslim and Non is Islam and sadly to say a large chuck of it's adherents.

I could also make excuses that being in the armed forces in Afghanistan probably didn't help, i remember my cousin telling me of a lovely Afghani past time of dressing up and noncing small boys and not being allowed to speak out against it. However, my cousin hasn't shanked a black yet so this guy is inexcusable.

I don't know your point Rscott, i could of said plenty of st about the vile racism coming out of the BLM camp and a lot of the stupidity that was thrown around post mike brown/trayvon/[insert criminal who got shot for good reason here] but it just doesn't seem right in a game of race crime one-ups-manship.
Yes, there can be conflicts between multicultural groups but there can also be conflicts between sub groups of a single culture. So blaming multiculturalism for all the world's ills is somewhat simplistic.

No one's defending those Afghanis, same as no one defends the priests who behaved in much the same way here.

Given the views of some on here that all Muslims have some responsibility for the London attack, then surely white people, especially ex army, have some responsibility for the NY attacker.

5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

115 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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rscott said:
Yes, there can be conflicts between multicultural groups but there can also be conflicts between sub groups of a single culture. So blaming multiculturalism for all the world's ills is somewhat simplistic.

No one's defending those Afghanis, same as no one defends the priests who behaved in much the same way here.

Given the views of some on here that all Muslims have some responsibility for the London attack, then surely white people, especially ex army, have some responsibility for the NY attacker.
Yes because we here white terrorist attacks every week right and Islamic terrorist attacks happen once every few years.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Not all the worlds ills, a big contribution to the problems in the west.

I hate to bang on about the gays all the time but.

Homophobic attacks have increased in recent years, even in the Netherlands, probably the most open to gays in the world.
"According to Dutch media advisers from the anti-discrimination bureau MiND said that, while homophobic abuse was usually a crime, it was justifiable if you were Muslim due to laws on freedom of religious expression. "
This is in light of a large representation of Immigrants in the Netherlands being the perpetrators of these crimes.

In East London there was a quite vile attack on a gay by a Muslim gang and when found guilty a gang attacked the gay bar this man was leaving in retaliation.

I could go on and on and on, but it shows that the mixing of cultures has brought conflict that sadly a cultural homogeneous society would not face.

5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

115 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Countdown said:
he multiple divorced, multiple bankrupt shyster who is currently sunning himself every weekened at his Mar A Lago resort and getting US taxpayers to pay the bill seems ideally qualified....
So being divorced more than once makes you a bad person but the ex pornstars and dominatrixes than run fake fact checking site Snopes does not indicate bad character.

I guess you had a change of thought then.

p1stonhead

25,541 posts

167 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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5ohmustang said:
Countdown said:
he multiple divorced, multiple bankrupt shyster who is currently sunning himself every weekened at his Mar A Lago resort and getting US taxpayers to pay the bill seems ideally qualified....
So being divorced more than once makes you a bad person but the ex pornstars and dominatrixes than run fake fact checking site Snopes does not indicate bad character.

I guess you had a change of thought then.
Do you genuinely have an attempt at a defence of him spending millions of dollars every week so he can stay at his vacation home or his wife staying in New York and also costing millions? I'd love to see someone try to justify it in any way.

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Not all the worlds ills, a big contribution to the problems in the west.

I hate to bang on about the gays all the time but.

Homophobic attacks have increased in recent years, even in the Netherlands, probably the most open to gays in the world.
"According to Dutch media advisers from the anti-discrimination bureau MiND said that, while homophobic abuse was usually a crime, it was justifiable if you were Muslim due to laws on freedom of religious expression. "
This is in light of a large representation of Immigrants in the Netherlands being the perpetrators of these crimes.

In East London there was a quite vile attack on a gay by a Muslim gang and when found guilty a gang attacked the gay bar this man was leaving in retaliation.

I could go on and on and on, but it shows that the mixing of cultures has brought conflict that sadly a cultural homogeneous society would not face.
Are you trying to suggest non Muslims never attack LGBT people?

How many examples would you like?

1982 - The beating of Rick Hunter and John Hanson by Minneapolis police outside the Y'all Come Back Saloon on January 1, 1982. Hennepin County Hospital emergency room staff employees testified in court that the police called the two men "faggots" while the men were being treated for their injuries
May 15, 1988 - Tommy Lee Trimble and John Lloyd Griffin, two gay men, were harassed and later shot by Richard Lee Bednarski in Dallas, Texas. Bednarski was later convicted of the two murders but was sentenced to 30 years rather than life in prison. The judge who issued the sentence, Jack Hampton, said later that he did so because the victims were homosexuals who wouldn't have been killed if they "hadn't been cruising the streets" for men. Hampton's comments caused considerable controversy. He was later censured for his remarks and ultimately lost a bid for judicial re-election in 1992
May 16, 2007 – Sean William Kennedy, 20, was walking to his car from Brew's Bar in Greenville, SC when Stephen Andrew Moller, 18, got out of another car and approached Kennedy. Investigators said that Moller made a comment about Kennedy's sexual orientation, and threw a fatal punch because he didn't like the other man's sexual preference.
In 2016, for the first time the Justice Department used the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act to bring criminal charges against a person for selecting a victim because of their gender identity. In that case Joshua Brandon Vallum pled guilty] In that case Joshua Brandon Vallum pled guilty to murdering Mercedes Williamson in 2015 because she was transgender, in violation of the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act.

Simple fact is there are good, bad, sick and evil people in every demographic you care to divide people into.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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How many of those sick youths returned to the scene of the crime with a gang to tear st up? When will you face the statistical facts, everyone has a chance to impress upon me but i will not deny the writing on the wall for them.

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
How many of those sick youths returned to the scene of the crime with a gang to tear st up? When will you face the statistical facts, everyone has a chance to impress upon me but i will not deny the writing on the wall for them.
Post these statistical facts then. Not seen a single on from you.