Snoopers Charter
Discussion
Today it received Royal Assent. So will come into force when the current one expires (at end of 2016).
Here's a guy not recommending some VPN Providers:
https://github.com/jlund/streisand/blob/master/REA...
and then suggests these (your own VPN):
Algo or Streisand.
Here's a guy not recommending some VPN Providers:
https://github.com/jlund/streisand/blob/master/REA...
and then suggests these (your own VPN):
Algo or Streisand.
Edited by Tonsko on Tuesday 29th November 11:33
Tonsko said:
Today it received Royal Assent.
Linky please?Edit: disregard, found it - http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-an...
Edited by All that jazz on Tuesday 29th November 12:26
ash73 said:
Fahrenheit 451; I wonder how many people understand Bradbury wasn't blaming the system, he was blaming us, the people. Stop being so obsessed with media personalities and check what you're actually voting for next time.
"Every nation gets the government it deserves." Joseph de MaistreAs a young student reading Orwell and Bradbury, I felt uncertain why such free countries as we have in the 'west' UK, US, Canada, Australia, and many more should need them.
After all, here we are free and unfettered, and well off like never before.
Surely all of what these books had to tell us was common sense, obvious? Surely?
My teachers knew better than I did.A fact that becomes less shocking with every year that passes.
caelite said:
Yup, already had a tor+secure VPN set up that I use every now and then for 'reasons'. I'm going to make a point of using it permanently for all non-ping intensive tasks from now on simply as a form of silent protest against this horrendous encroachment on to public privacy. Although means of evading their surveillance are going to be the next thing to be made illegal, mark my words.
I know there are a lot of older folks who arn't necessarily technically minded on here, so if anyone would like a hand setting up a tor browser drop me a PM I can link you to some guides and try to give a helping hand if you get stuck.
I have no idea about VPNs so any advice would be good. The more research I did the more my head started spinning really. These VPN services / the review guides all seem to be aimed very much at the paranoid tech geek or the criminal underworld of the web. There doesn't seem to be anything aimed at Mr. Average who just doesn't see why the government should be easily able to snoop. I know there are a lot of older folks who arn't necessarily technically minded on here, so if anyone would like a hand setting up a tor browser drop me a PM I can link you to some guides and try to give a helping hand if you get stuck.
I have nothing particular to hide but I am very much against this kind of government snooping power purely on principle. It is such a cliche to squeal "1984" and "big brother" but it really seems the case these days. The UK is one of the most spied on countries in the world already. OK most laws have good intentions but the application of the law frequently seems to creep into ways it was never intended to..... and when was the last time the government repealed a law or reduced its own power? Once our rights to privacy are gone they are gone for good.
VolvoT5 said:
I have no idea about VPNs so any advice would be good. The more research I did the more my head started spinning really. These VPN services / the review guides all seem to be aimed very much at the paranoid tech geek or the criminal underworld of the web. There doesn't seem to be anything aimed at Mr. Average who just doesn't see why the government should be easily able to snoop.
I have nothing particular to hide but I am very much against this kind of government snooping power purely on principle. It is such a cliche to squeal "1984" and "big brother" but it really seems the case these days. The UK is one of the most spied on countries in the world already. OK most laws have good intentions but the application of the law frequently seems to creep into ways it was never intended to..... and when was the last time the government repealed a law or reduced its own power? Once our rights to privacy are gone they are gone for good.
Just quickly - first off decide why you want VPN - you say you don't want your data in the IPBill records. So - you need to choose someone who claims they don't log information on your connection, second you want to choose someone who resides in a country outside the '14 eyes' - that is companies in these 14 countries (also is why you shouldn't choose a US/UK based one). https://www.privacytools.io/#ukusaI have nothing particular to hide but I am very much against this kind of government snooping power purely on principle. It is such a cliche to squeal "1984" and "big brother" but it really seems the case these days. The UK is one of the most spied on countries in the world already. OK most laws have good intentions but the application of the law frequently seems to creep into ways it was never intended to..... and when was the last time the government repealed a law or reduced its own power? Once our rights to privacy are gone they are gone for good.
So you have your two main criteria - now visit https://thatoneprivacysite.net/vpn-comparison-char... and order the columns on your chosen criteria. Then look at the other information about them - how many concurrent connections, speed and so on and whittle them down.
That site gets tricky to use if you have more than 2-3 criteria on choosing one - but at least it's honest and not sponsored in any way by any of the providers themselves, unlike most of the VPN comparison sites.
There is sadly no one solution fits all as it is a very personal choice, and thus complicated. The CyberGhost have an offer on for $21 for the year, but only give you one connection (and it will end in about an hour).
Tonsko said:
SystemParanoia said:
can't you jist spin up a vps somewhere and vpn through that. Atleast you have more control then. And can sublet traffic to friends family
What Streisand and Algo appear to do. (Linked above).VolvoT5 said:
Tonsko said:
SystemParanoia said:
can't you jist spin up a vps somewhere and vpn through that. Atleast you have more control then. And can sublet traffic to friends family
What Streisand and Algo appear to do. (Linked above).
Tonsko said:
One thing about all of these services - can you configure your router to use them? Or is it on your device only - and does your router count as a single device?
Depends on your router, I know a few people who use VPNs on their routers to access the internet via another country in order to access different countries Netflix catalogs, but it seems my Virgin Superhub can't do that and I'd need to get a different router for the job.I signed up with PureVPN the other night on thier Cyber Monday deal which doubles the subscription time. You can use it on up to 5 machines. Works fine on my PC and Speedtest was showing no slowdown. Their Android app seems to be pretty rubbish and keeps crashing, but I should be able to configure my phone to use their VPN without the app. Not tried setting it up on my Pi yet. Has a 7 day money back offer so you can check everything works without losing the cash for the subscription
Tonsko said:
Wait there - you ignored the attempted plain english reply that I tried to help you with as a non-tech to navigate the waters, and picked up on the tech reply that I replied to someone who is tech literate about a non-trivial install?
No I didn't ignore it actually it was very useful thanks. The site you linked to provides far more more idiot friendly plug in and play software. Cyber ghost seems to tick the boxes at a reasonable price. Trouble with CyberGhost is a subscription only covers one device, so you really need to get it working on your router if you have multiple devices.
Interesting that comparison link reckons PureVPN log your traffic, their website claims they don't
https://www.purevpn.com/privacy-policy.php
Private Internet Access (PIA) and NordVPN seemed to get a lot of decent reviews when I was looking but I went with Pure as their cyber Monday deal was a bit to good to ignore.
I'd previously been using Hola free VPN to access iPlayer form Holland but there seem to have been a few scare stories about some of the free VPNs having really bad security, plus their model works by using your machine as node for someone else to access the internet through, so could get the blame for someone else's dodgy internet habits.
Interesting that comparison link reckons PureVPN log your traffic, their website claims they don't
https://www.purevpn.com/privacy-policy.php
Private Internet Access (PIA) and NordVPN seemed to get a lot of decent reviews when I was looking but I went with Pure as their cyber Monday deal was a bit to good to ignore.
I'd previously been using Hola free VPN to access iPlayer form Holland but there seem to have been a few scare stories about some of the free VPNs having really bad security, plus their model works by using your machine as node for someone else to access the internet through, so could get the blame for someone else's dodgy internet habits.
RizzoTheRat said:
Interesting that comparison link reckons PureVPN log your traffic, their website claims they don't
https://www.purevpn.com/privacy-policy.php
I had another look at that, it's not a simple yes or no - the privacy site makes a distinction between traffic, DNS, timestamp, bandwidth and IP logging. Privacysite and PureVPN both agree that they don't log traffic, but do log timestamps and bandwidth.https://www.purevpn.com/privacy-policy.php
That virtual router and split tunnelling are nice features though, with a killswitch included. Effectively £1.95 per month too. Not bad at all.
Edited by Tonsko on Tuesday 29th November 17:28
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