Snoopers Charter
Discussion
Who_Goes_Blue said:
If parents did their bloody jobs properly kids wouldn't access it in the first place and therefore none of this would be necessary. And yes I am a parent.
It’s kind of difficult to stop children accessing it though. The amount of devices with internet access they or their friends have is pretty widespread. When I was a kid, we couldn’t get porn on our TVs or phones or whatever, we couldn’t buy it in a shop so we had to either find it randomly or get someone to steal it or someone’s big brother to buy it, even then it was pretty tame stuff,
When I was a kid a conversation about porn might involve my mum saying I was disgusting and telling my dad who would pretend to be angry and wonder if it was his. Now a conversation about porn needs to involve explaining that fisting and BDSM and a Boston steamer aren't things for your son to try on your family friends daughter,
techguyone said:
Maybe I'm a bit slow, do I really want to know what a 'Boston Steamer' is? (no I really don't know) I can't google it in case I end up on a 'list' 
urbandictionary said:
boston steamer
The act of taking a s
t on someones chest before during or after sex (can be used as a punishment, break up tactic or fetish act) Very similar to the Cleveland Steamer, but with the Boston Steamer, you also tea bag her with you nut-sack while taking the st.
bh, shut your fkin mouth, or i'll tape you to the bed and give you a Boston Steamer.
The act of taking a s
t on someones chest before during or after sex (can be used as a punishment, break up tactic or fetish act) Very similar to the Cleveland Steamer, but with the Boston Steamer, you also tea bag her with you nut-sack while taking the st.b
h, shut your fkin mouth, or i'll tape you to the bed and give you a Boston Steamer.techguyone said:
Maybe I'm a bit slow, do I really want to know what a 'Boston Steamer' is? (no I really don't know) I can't google it in case I end up on a 'list'
It’s a fetish act involving poo. Which if it involves consenting adults is all great. I don’t judge. Either way though, access to the internet involves access to all kinds of things that I and possibly you didn’t have access to as a young adult.
El stovey said:
When I was a kid, we couldn’t get porn on our TVs or phones or whatever, we couldn’t buy it in a shop so we had to either find it randomly or get someone to steal it or someone’s big brother to buy it, even then it was pretty tame stuff,
I think it was Frank Skinner who said when he was old enough he felt a moral obligation to buy porn mags and leave them in hedges for the next generation Who_Goes_Blue said:
If parents did their bloody jobs properly kids wouldn't access it in the first place and therefore none of this would be necessary. And yes I am a parent.
I agree that parents can take sensible measures such as setting up routers to cut off kids internet access at 10pm each night, blocking adult sites via their ISP, random inspections of their phones, and so on.But, stopping them altogether is going to virtually impossible.
Half of the filth I see these days comes via Whatsapp groups!
amusingduck said:
techguyone said:
Maybe I'm a bit slow, do I really want to know what a 'Boston Steamer' is? (no I really don't know) I can't google it in case I end up on a 'list'
urbandictionary said:
boston steamer
The act of taking a st on someones chest before during or after sex (can be used as a punishment, break up tactic or fetish act) Very similar to the Cleveland Steamer, but with the Boston Steamer, you also tea bag her with you nut-sack while taking the st.
bh, shut your fkin mouth, or i'll tape you to the bed and give you a Boston Steamer.
The act of taking a s
t on someones chest before during or after sex (can be used as a punishment, break up tactic or fetish act) Very similar to the Cleveland Steamer, but with the Boston Steamer, you also tea bag her with you nut-sack while taking the st.b
h, shut your fkin mouth, or i'll tape you to the bed and give you a Boston Steamer.Maybe aunty Theresa knows best after all.
Lord Marylebone said:
I agree that parents can take sensible measures such as setting up routers to cut off kids internet access at 10pm each night, blocking adult sites via their ISP, random inspections of their phones, and so on.
But, stopping them altogether is going to virtually impossible.
Half of the filth I see these days comes via Whatsapp groups!
There are some parents we know of that have refused to buy their teenager a smart phone (they have a dumb mobile handset instead), and keep the teenagers PC in a communal area. This seems the best way to block the child from being able to watch any such content if you are really motivated. Obviously they can and do watch stuff on friends' phones/PCs, and they get picked on for not following the herd.But, stopping them altogether is going to virtually impossible.
Half of the filth I see these days comes via Whatsapp groups!
This is nothing more than an attempt to funnel the majority into falling into line. They know that real criminals will already be using a VPN or something else. They know those who are really bothered by this move to put in an age limit on porn will just switch to a VPN, but the majority won't. Next stage will be to go after the VPN providers to provide logs or be blocked, on the grounds that people are using them to cirmvate the now legal porn age limit. It would not surprise me if it was the VPNs that they were after all along...
Obviously there are ways to protect VPNs from such snooping, but think of the process as a funneling, removing more and more people the further they get down the process. They want the majority not the minority with this type of move.
El stovey said:
amusingduck said:
techguyone said:
Maybe I'm a bit slow, do I really want to know what a 'Boston Steamer' is? (no I really don't know) I can't google it in case I end up on a 'list'
urbandictionary said:
boston steamer
The act of taking a st on someones chest before during or after sex (can be used as a punishment, break up tactic or fetish act) Very similar to the Cleveland Steamer, but with the Boston Steamer, you also tea bag her with you nut-sack while taking the st.
bh, shut your fkin mouth, or i'll tape you to the bed and give you a Boston Steamer.
The act of taking a s
t on someones chest before during or after sex (can be used as a punishment, break up tactic or fetish act) Very similar to the Cleveland Steamer, but with the Boston Steamer, you also tea bag her with you nut-sack while taking the st.b
h, shut your fkin mouth, or i'll tape you to the bed and give you a Boston Steamer.Maybe aunty Theresa knows best after all.
jjlynn27 said:
Don't know what's big huppla about. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. If this helps to defeat terrorists and other undesirables, all for it.
It doesn't though. If you have nothing to hide, install a cctv in your living room to live feed to the council.
This government means it to 'curb terrorism'; let's hope subsequent governments don't think that terrorism includes what you put in your bins or just anyone that disagrees with them...
Such a nonsensical comment in this day and age.
jjlynn27 said:
Don't know what's big huppla about. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. If this helps to defeat terrorists and other undesirables, all for it.
Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.When you say, ‘I have nothing to hide,’ you’re saying, ‘I don’t care about this right.’ You’re saying, ‘I don’t have this right, because I’ve got to the point where I have to justify it.’ The way rights work is, the government has to justify its intrusion into your rights.
jjlynn27 said:
Don't know what's big huppla about. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. If this helps to defeat terrorists and other undesirables, all for it.
I can never tell if these kinds of posts are real or whoosh parroting. Only the guilty have anything to fear always sounds a bit sinister. If you’re against this creeping intrusion into your life, you must be up to something? I close my curtains or don’t tell people private stuff because I want some privacy and dignity. We should be innocent until proven guilty, this is all about everyone being assumed to be doing wrong so we have to prove our innocence first.
More and more, these intrusions into our lives and surveillance by the government chip away at out freedoms and liberty and we’re no longer living in an open society where we're free to protest and speak out and do all the things people in free society can do.
It’s all about taking responsibility away from the individual and parents and giving control to the government who are exempt from these regulations and are the ones in the news for watching porn at work in the first place
And it won’t make the country any safer anyway.
So I’m against it because it’s pointles and an intrusion on my privacy and it needlessly increases the power of the government.
I’m not against it because I want to commit acts of terrorism or be undesirable (whatever that entails)
El stovey said:
jjlynn27 said:
Don't know what's big huppla about. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. If this helps to defeat terrorists and other undesirables, all for it.
I can never tell if these kinds of posts are real or whoosh parroting. Only the guilty have anything to fear always sounds a bit sinister. If you’re against this creeping intrusion into your life, you must be up to something? I close my curtains or don’t tell people private stuff because I want some privacy and dignity. We should be innocent until proven guilty, this is all about everyone being assumed to be doing wrong so we have to prove our innocence first.
More and more, these intrusions into our lives and surveillance by the government chip away at out freedoms and liberty and we’re no longer living in an open society where we're free to protest and speak out and do all the things people in free society can do.
It’s all about taking responsibility away from the individual and parents and giving control to the government who are exempt from these regulations and are the ones in the news for watching porn at work in the first place
And it won’t make the country any safer anyway.
So I’m against it because it’s pointles and an intrusion on my privacy and it needlessly increases the power of the government.
I’m not against it because I want to commit acts of terrorism or be undesirable (whatever that entails)
On 28th Nov '16
jjlynn27 said:
It's the bigger picture that matters. A lot of suspicious types hang around in kebab shops. There could be orchestrated effort to subvert democratic will of the people by messing with the food or the food chain. How many plans to smuggle immigrants into UK were conceived in your local kebab shop? Or polski sklep, for that matter.
The Govt needs to know everything. It will makes us all much, much, much safer. Who cares about little bit of privacy when your safety and well-being and democracy is under threat.
The Govt needs to know everything. It will makes us all much, much, much safer. Who cares about little bit of privacy when your safety and well-being and democracy is under threat.
jjlynn27 said:
Don't know what's big huppla about. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. If this helps to defeat terrorists and other undesirables, all for it.
I completely disagree.If the government actually press the button on this one and block access to all legal porn sites and similar 'Over 18' sites, ordinary law abiding individuals such as myself, and you, will have two options:
Option 1: Go through the 'adult verification process' which involves providing my details, ID, and credit card information to internet pornographers.
A scenario that I think you will agree is totally ludicrous and unacceptable. I can't imagine why anyone would had such information over to content providers that have a proved track record of losing sensitive data.
Option 2: Go down the VPN route, which no doubt will paint a big red target on you as far as the government are concerned, and VPN usage will be clamped down on or banned soon by the government. Just watch this space.
What will you do?
jjlynn27 said:
Don't know what's big huppla about. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. If this helps to defeat terrorists and other undesirables, all for it.
Worth a watch for anyone that thinks like this.https://www.ted.com/talks/glenn_greenwald_why_priv...
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