New Fivers contain animal fat...

New Fivers contain animal fat...

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alangla

4,787 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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shakotan said:
Vipers said:
I wonder how many other countries with plastic notes use the same, they have had them in the IOM for yonks and Australia, I am sure there are many more.






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A veggie friend of mine first brought the Change petition to my attention and was very vocal about it until I point out that he lives in NZ and they've had notes make out of the same material since 1999.
Seems the Scottish ones don't contain tallow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-38169194 - I think the Clydesdale ones have been in circulation for about a year or so.


EDIT - seems De La Rue have retracted that claim & the BBC story has been updated - apparently Scottish notes are 0.003% animal product.

Edited by alangla on Thursday 1st December 16:51

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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The petition is nonsense.

petition said:
We demand that you cease to use animal products in the production of currency that we have to use.
They don't have to use £5 notes at all. There are several options open to them.

1. Ensure that goods purchased equal a value where the money you tender cannot result in being given a £5 note in change.
2. Use a debit card to pay for goods where a £5 note may be given in change.
3. Explain to the sales person / cashier/ assistant that you cannot accept £5 notes on religious / moral / nut job grounds and get some coins instead.


AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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plasticpig said:
They don't have to use £5 notes at all. There are several options open to them.

1. Ensure that goods purchased equal a value where the money you tender cannot result in being given a £5 note in change.
2. Use a debit card to pay for goods where a £5 note may be given in change.
3. Explain to the sales person / cashier/ assistant that you cannot accept £5 notes on religious / moral / nut job grounds and get some coins instead.
Worth pointing out here that when purchasing something you have no right to insist on change - you are actually required to tender the correct amount. If you cannot then you are in breach of contract.

That being the case, anyone who has an objection to the new notes has no obligation to use them if they do not want to. Just tender the correct amount in whatever denomination you feel comfortable handing and you will have no problems.

Vipers

32,883 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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alangla said:
shakotan said:
Vipers said:
I wonder how many other countries with plastic notes use the same, they have had them in the IOM for yonks and Australia, I am sure there are many more.






smile
A veggie friend of mine first brought the Change petition to my attention and was very vocal about it until I point out that he lives in NZ and they've had notes make out of the same material since 1999.
Seems the Scottish ones don't contain tallow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-38169194 - I think the Clydesdale ones have been in circulation for about a year or so.


EDIT - seems De La Rue have retracted that claim & the BBC story has been updated - apparently Scottish notes are 0.003% animal product.

Edited by alangla on Thursday 1st December 16:51
Even if they start producing notes without tallow, there is no easy way to pull in those which do, vegans etc wouldnt know which notes contained tallow, and those that didnt, so what next?

Lets see now, its nearly the end of the week, shall I start a petition on something which is really important......




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Ziplobb

1,358 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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This issue is an affliction bourne out of modern society where a significant number of people dont know how fking lucky they are. They want to try living in certain parts of the middle east right now then they might have something to grumble about. How many million around the world would dearly love for the most important thing they need to be worrying about is what the banknote in their pocket is made out of.

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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AJL308 said:
The most efficient and cost effective means of producing plastic fivers is by using Tallow (if it weren't then they would use something else) and to insist that it is changed to something less cost effective and efficient is a violation of my rights and freedoms.
They could make it a £6 note... scratchchin

Vipers

32,883 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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catso said:
AJL308 said:
The most efficient and cost effective means of producing plastic fivers is by using Tallow (if it weren't then they would use something else) and to insist that it is changed to something less cost effective and efficient is a violation of my rights and freedoms.
They could make it a £6 note... :scratch chin:
Reminds me of the joke about Paddy who walked into a bar and said-

"Barman, can you change an eighteen pound note for me"

Barman said "No problem, do you want two nines, or three sixes"




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Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

230TE

2,506 posts

186 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Cold said:
"Contains animal by-products" - as does the Magic Marker you used to make your holier-than-thou sign. Idiots.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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230TE said:
Cold said:
"Contains animal by-products" - as does the Magic Marker you used to make your holier-than-thou sign. Idiots.
One hopes that they don't heat their shack or cook their nut omletes using the souls of dead dinosaurs.

How dreadful life must be for them.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
I hate them. They seem designed to come out of your pocket and fall on the floor everytime you put a hand in a pocket. The animal fat thing means most will have been chewed by a tramp at some point.

Great news.
Strangely, not once during my night out last did any of my new £5 notes jump out of my pocket.

Maybe yours are made from kangaroo extract?

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

186 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Hugo a Gogo said:
shakotan said:
I've said this elsewhere, but almost everything you come into contact on a daily basis has some form of animal product in it. Your car, your mobile phone, your Debit/Credit cards.
that'll be why I sometimes get a bit of crackling in my ear when I make a call
I have the same problem with ham radio.

madala

5,063 posts

198 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Cold said:
...... some people just need a real good kicking ......

Vipers

32,883 posts

228 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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I wonder how many veggies have tattoos? biggrin




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B'stard Child

28,397 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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madala said:
Cold said:
...... some people just need a real good kicking ......
They don't - they really don't - they just need a little sympathy....


As a long standing friend of mine says on a regular basis - "sympathy - you know where to find that? between st and syphilis in the dictionary"

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Cold said:
Well I can't go in there, obviously, as my shoes are made of dead cow, as is my jacket.

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Vipers said:
catso said:
AJL308 said:
The most efficient and cost effective means of producing plastic fivers is by using Tallow (if it weren't then they would use something else) and to insist that it is changed to something less cost effective and efficient is a violation of my rights and freedoms.
They could make it a £6 note... :scratch chin:
Reminds me of the joke about Paddy who walked into a bar and said-

"Barman, can you change an eighteen pound note for me"

Barman said "No problem, do you want two nines, or three sixes"




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Brings back memories of; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af86I5Er_Mc

Langweilig

4,326 posts

211 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Vipers said:
I wonder how many veggies have tattoos? biggrin




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The protagonist, Douglas maw has tattoos. Judging by his Facebook page, he's quite proud of them



snuffy

9,760 posts

284 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Hats off to them - they have used it for some free advertising. 10/10 for marketing.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Does tattoo ink contain animal products then? I'm guessing cochineal, the red food colouring, or maybe the whole thing being suspended in some form of animal fat.

I thought the fivers thing was just using tallow as a lubricant? It's been used for that for centuries, and as a flux in soldering. I used to work in a factory where we lubricated the exposed bits of the butter packing machine...with butter. It's not as good a lubricant as the synthetic food grade lubes, but it's effectively free on site and you certainly have no issues about contamination of the packed product.