New Fivers contain animal fat...

New Fivers contain animal fat...

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FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Don said:
Cold said:
Well I can't go in there, obviously, as my shoes are made of dead cow, as is my jacket.
And they probably have many products containing animal by-products in there anyway, from the LCD screens on the till, the photo prints they have on the walls, the batteries in their electrical equipment and the blu-tack holding their ethical signs up.

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Don said:
Cold said:
Well I can't go in there, obviously, as my shoes are made of dead cow, as is my jacket.
I don't think I could either.


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I'm not paying a fiver for a cup of coffee!

Du1point8

21,607 posts

192 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-england-remove-ta...


Tallow is rendered cow or mutton fat, but for the sake of argument let's go with cows here.

How much do cows weigh? Between 1,100kg for a male (bull) and 720kg for a female. So, on average, a cow weighs 910kg.

The body fat content of an average cow is 25 percent. Therefore, the amount of fat in an average cow's body is 227.5kg.

How many kilograms of this fat is contained in offcuts you could use to make tallow? About 40kg, according to a man at the James Elliott butcher in Islington.

How much tallow is used in one note, according to the Bank of England? "A trace", which chemically means less than 100 parts per million, or 0.01 percent. A polymer consultant I called confirmed that the tallow present in a given polymer would be a fraction of a single percentage.

New £5 notes weigh 0.7g, therefore there is roughly 0.00007 g of tallow present in one £5 note.

How many fivers are in circulation now, and therefore will be around by May of 2017, when all the old paper ones have been phased out? 329 million notes.

To work out how much tallow will be used in total in all of these fivers, we need to multiply 0.00007g by 329 million, which gives us 23,030g, or 23kg.

And if you get about 40kg of tallow-worthy fat from the average cow, how many cows would you need to make every single £5 note in circulation?

JUST OVER HALF OF ONE COW

Vegans care more for 1/2 a cow than the following:

– Shutting down the UK's domestic ivory trade has 71,416 signatures.
– Increasing the maximum sentence for animal cruelty charges has 51,473 signatures.
– Ending the badger cull has 63,461 signatures.

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Du1point8 said:
https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-england-remove-ta...


Tallow is rendered cow or mutton fat, but for the sake of argument let's go with cows here.

How much do cows weigh? Between 1,100kg for a male (bull) and 720kg for a female. So, on average, a cow weighs 910kg.

The body fat content of an average cow is 25 percent. Therefore, the amount of fat in an average cow's body is 227.5kg.

How many kilograms of this fat is contained in offcuts you could use to make tallow? About 40kg, according to a man at the James Elliott butcher in Islington.

How much tallow is used in one note, according to the Bank of England? "A trace", which chemically means less than 100 parts per million, or 0.01 percent. A polymer consultant I called confirmed that the tallow present in a given polymer would be a fraction of a single percentage.

New £5 notes weigh 0.7g, therefore there is roughly 0.00007 g of tallow present in one £5 note.

How many fivers are in circulation now, and therefore will be around by May of 2017, when all the old paper ones have been phased out? 329 million notes.

To work out how much tallow will be used in total in all of these fivers, we need to multiply 0.00007g by 329 million, which gives us 23,030g, or 23kg.

And if you get about 40kg of tallow-worthy fat from the average cow, how many cows would you need to make every single £5 note in circulation?

JUST OVER HALF OF ONE COW

Vegans care more for 1/2 a cow than the following:

– Shutting down the UK's domestic ivory trade has 71,416 signatures.
– Increasing the maximum sentence for animal cruelty charges has 51,473 signatures.
– Ending the badger cull has 63,461 signatures.
Top of this page if you are on "100 club settings" or Page 5 on the default settings........

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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How many rendered vegans would it take to produce all the £5 notes in circulation, and can we do the same for all the £10, £20 and £50?

What the hell we'll do it for the foreign notes the mint produces and even those funny Euro notes too.

Du1point8

21,607 posts

192 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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B'stard Child said:
Du1point8 said:
https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-england-remove-ta...


Tallow is rendered cow or mutton fat, but for the sake of argument let's go with cows here.

How much do cows weigh? Between 1,100kg for a male (bull) and 720kg for a female. So, on average, a cow weighs 910kg.

The body fat content of an average cow is 25 percent. Therefore, the amount of fat in an average cow's body is 227.5kg.

How many kilograms of this fat is contained in offcuts you could use to make tallow? About 40kg, according to a man at the James Elliott butcher in Islington.

How much tallow is used in one note, according to the Bank of England? "A trace", which chemically means less than 100 parts per million, or 0.01 percent. A polymer consultant I called confirmed that the tallow present in a given polymer would be a fraction of a single percentage.

New £5 notes weigh 0.7g, therefore there is roughly 0.00007 g of tallow present in one £5 note.

How many fivers are in circulation now, and therefore will be around by May of 2017, when all the old paper ones have been phased out? 329 million notes.

To work out how much tallow will be used in total in all of these fivers, we need to multiply 0.00007g by 329 million, which gives us 23,030g, or 23kg.

And if you get about 40kg of tallow-worthy fat from the average cow, how many cows would you need to make every single £5 note in circulation?

JUST OVER HALF OF ONE COW

Vegans care more for 1/2 a cow than the following:

– Shutting down the UK's domestic ivory trade has 71,416 signatures.
– Increasing the maximum sentence for animal cruelty charges has 51,473 signatures.
– Ending the badger cull has 63,461 signatures.
Top of this page if you are on "100 club settings" or Page 5 on the default settings........
I noticed but its just a link and not the statement.

babatunde

736 posts

190 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Du1point8 said:
https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-england-remove-ta...


Tallow is rendered cow or mutton fat, but for the sake of argument let's go with cows here.

How much do cows weigh? Between 1,100kg for a male (bull) and 720kg for a female. So, on average, a cow weighs 910kg.

The body fat content of an average cow is 25 percent. Therefore, the amount of fat in an average cow's body is 227.5kg.

How many kilograms of this fat is contained in offcuts you could use to make tallow? About 40kg, according to a man at the James Elliott butcher in Islington.

How much tallow is used in one note, according to the Bank of England? "A trace", which chemically means less than 100 parts per million, or 0.01 percent. A polymer consultant I called confirmed that the tallow present in a given polymer would be a fraction of a single percentage.

New £5 notes weigh 0.7g, therefore there is roughly 0.00007 g of tallow present in one £5 note.

How many fivers are in circulation now, and therefore will be around by May of 2017, when all the old paper ones have been phased out? 329 million notes.

To work out how much tallow will be used in total in all of these fivers, we need to multiply 0.00007g by 329 million, which gives us 23,030g, or 23kg.

And if you get about 40kg of tallow-worthy fat from the average cow, how many cows would you need to make every single £5 note in circulation?

JUST OVER HALF OF ONE COW

Vegans care more for 1/2 a cow than the following:

– Shutting down the UK's domestic ivory trade has 71,416 signatures.
– Increasing the maximum sentence for animal cruelty charges has 51,473 signatures.
– Ending the badger cull has 63,461 signatures.
WHAT!!!! how dare you mock our beliefs with your "facts"

All you meat eating, leather wearing, by product using, animal testing, carnivores are going straight to hell where you will be forced to eat meat 4 times a day /s

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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It probably bothers me more that you can rub the new £5 out with an eraser.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2067478/video-new-pl...

dudleybloke

19,819 posts

186 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
It probably bothers me more that you can rub the new £5 out with an eraser.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2067478/video-new-pl...
Or shrink it in a tumble dryer................

egomeister

6,700 posts

263 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Vipers said:
I wonder how many veggies have tattoos? biggrin

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You can get vegan ink, if you are that way inclined...

bitchstewie

51,206 posts

210 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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It's a bit of a strange one.

I don't honestly mind or care if someone's personal ethics is that they object to the fiver (or anything) containing animal products, it's their right to do so.

Where I do think it starts to get a little farcical is when it's taken to the extremes of the Rainbow Cafe example above.

As others have said, do they pan anyone eating there without a strip search to ascertain if they are wearing or carrying anything at all containing animal by-products, or can they guarantee their POS system or the pain on the walls or the plastic in every single fixture and fitting is animal product free?

That's where I struggle with it, and I can't help but think that if animals are your concern there must be greater causes than the fiver.

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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bhstewie said:
It's a bit of a strange one.

I don't honestly mind or care if someone's personal ethics is that they object to the fiver (or anything) containing animal products, it's their right to do so.

Where I do think it starts to get a little farcical is when it's taken to the extremes of the Rainbow Cafe example above.
Bearing mind it's Small Business Saturday biggrin

snuffy said:
Hats off to them - they have used it for some free advertising. 10/10 for marketing.
bhstewie said:
As others have said, do they pan anyone eating there without a strip search to ascertain if they are wearing or carrying anything at all containing animal by-products, or can they guarantee their POS system or the pain on the walls or the plastic in every single fixture and fitting is animal product free?

That's where I struggle with it, and I can't help but think that if animals are your concern there must be greater causes than the fiver.
^ agreed but eco warriors are eco warriors - the world needs a few to balance out those that see the planet as a vehicle to pillage and rape to destruction....

#notanecowarriorhonest

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Du1point8 said:
Vegans care more for 1/2 a cow than the following:

– Shutting down the UK's domestic ivory trade has 71,416 signatures.
– Increasing the maximum sentence for animal cruelty charges has 51,473 signatures.
– Ending the badger cull has 63,461 signatures.
Good post. Typical todays preachy safe space protesters needing their pathetic stooge to hate.

Try pointing out the enviromental and wildlife cost of lithium mining, and ask if this years newest iphone upgrade was really necessary .

Vipers

32,880 posts

228 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Don said:
Cold said:
Well I can't go in there, obviously, as my shoes are made of dead cow, as is my jacket.
So I go in there, buy my food etc, pull out a plastic note, and say -

"Whoops, silly me", put it back in my wallet and pull out an old paper note with the same hand, would they accept that knowing that I had touched the other one. Get real people.

They will be having you wash your hands next when you walk in.




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Vipers

32,880 posts

228 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Don said:
Cold said:
Well I can't go in there, obviously, as my shoes are made of dead cow, as is my jacket.
So I can't take the old cow in their either biggrin




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FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Cold said:
One more thing.

People who swap between capital letters and lower case in one notice. Clear indication of an unhinged mental.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Pleased these people have the luxury of complaining about such a vitally important event. Meanwhile the rest of the World gets on with life as best it can.

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
Cold said:
One more thing.

People who swap between capital letters and lower case in one notice. Clear indication of an unhinged mental.
yOu CoUlD bE rIgHt biggrin

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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hairyben said:
Try pointing out the enviromental and wildlife cost of lithium mining, and ask if this years newest iphone upgrade was really necessary .
Yep - ethics, but only when it suits.

Reminds me of a guy I went to school with who, whilst stood there in a leather jacket and leather shoes, refused a packed of beef flavour crisps because he had become vegetarian on 'ethical' grounds. rolleyes