top WPC gets her breast out
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Derek Smith said:
mybrainhurts said:
You're insulated from the real world. I've seen people seen off for stuff that's very minor compared to this woman's conduct.
Correction: you are insulated from the 'real' world. You have no real idea what happens day in and day out in your city/town/county. Like me, be thankful that there are those out there stopping you knowing just how bad things really are.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/08/po...
I've posted that link as the thread seems to have become about remuneration, accountability and standards.
With regard to the previous case where Sutcliffe sat on a disciplinary panel despite being in a relationship with a male officer of lower rank that worked in the professional standards department, where would not declaring that sit with with Councillors and and Police & Crime Commissioner Panel members having to declare interests at the beginning of public meetings? Didn't a famous judge say that it's as important for justice to be seen to be done as it is justice being done?
For me it's a spirit of the rules, versus playing technicalities in a rulebook issue.
For me it's an ethics, integrity and professionalism issue.
The police are a disciplined service in which senior officers get drunk, get their breasts out and berate junior colleagues?
CC Ian Hopkins should have taken Sutcliffe to one side and given her a stern word, got her a taxi or ordered her to get a taxi and told her her conduct would be discussed back at the office when she had sobered up.
I've posted that link as the thread seems to have become about remuneration, accountability and standards.
With regard to the previous case where Sutcliffe sat on a disciplinary panel despite being in a relationship with a male officer of lower rank that worked in the professional standards department, where would not declaring that sit with with Councillors and and Police & Crime Commissioner Panel members having to declare interests at the beginning of public meetings? Didn't a famous judge say that it's as important for justice to be seen to be done as it is justice being done?
For me it's a spirit of the rules, versus playing technicalities in a rulebook issue.
For me it's an ethics, integrity and professionalism issue.
The police are a disciplined service in which senior officers get drunk, get their breasts out and berate junior colleagues?
CC Ian Hopkins should have taken Sutcliffe to one side and given her a stern word, got her a taxi or ordered her to get a taxi and told her her conduct would be discussed back at the office when she had sobered up.
Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 1st February 20:40
mybrainhurts said:
Sorry that went over your head. By the "real world" I meant industry and commerce. Career police officers have no experience of business and are thus insulated from what goes on within.
Well, you patronised 'us', I thought it only fair to patronise you.Police officers come from a variety of backgrounds. I was a butcher, printer and partner in a graphic arts company. There were three ex printers in my nick. One chap ran a taxi company, another ran a second hand car company. One PC also ran a company which took horses to shows, etc. I worked under a chap who ran a company which supplied vehicles to television production companies.
Senior officers in my time were 'encouraged', although it was all but a requirement, to be attached to a business for a time.
My experience is that most, in fact the substantial majority, of officers worked in what you called, rather fancifully, the real world. So you are, quite clearly, wrong.
On the other hand, you have no idea was the real real world is like.
Derek Smith said:
mybrainhurts said:
Sorry that went over your head. By the "real world" I meant industry and commerce. Career police officers have no experience of business and are thus insulated from what goes on within.
Well, you patronised 'us', I thought it only fair to patronise you.Police officers come from a variety of backgrounds. I was a butcher, printer and partner in a graphic arts company. There were three ex printers in my nick. One chap ran a taxi company, another ran a second hand car company. One PC also ran a company which took horses to shows, etc. I worked under a chap who ran a company which supplied vehicles to television production companies.
Senior officers in my time were 'encouraged', although it was all but a requirement, to be attached to a business for a time.
My experience is that most, in fact the substantial majority, of officers worked in what you called, rather fancifully, the real world. So you are, quite clearly, wrong.
On the other hand, you have no idea was the real real world is like.
You know, like Brunstrom.
Why do you suggest I have no idea was(sic) the real world is like, when you know nothing about me?
To be fair, the same could be said of you replying to me.
mybrainhurts said:
You're insulated from the real world.
I think the reality is broad brush generalisations about what the private sector would or would't do doesn't reflect the variance across the industries, cultures, policies and approaches different business have. La Liga said:
To be fair, the same could be said of you replying to me.
Holy Bicker, Batman...mybrainhurts said:
You're insulated from the real world.
I think the reality is broad brush generalisations about what the private sector would or would't do doesn't reflect the variance across the industries, cultures, policies and approaches different business have. All right...insert "some" before industries...
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