Gambian Dictator President Jammeh defeated
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I have only just started regularly reading Al-Jazeera after coming back from Iran and looking for a less western bias to my media intake, but they have been running stories on The Gambia for quite a while now: http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/gambia.htm...
ETA- Forgot to mention, I visited The Gambia about 7 years ago and found it to be a lovely place with very friendly locals and good food.
ETA- Forgot to mention, I visited The Gambia about 7 years ago and found it to be a lovely place with very friendly locals and good food.
NinjaPower said:
This guy was on Sky news, he has fled Gambia in the last couple of days, but unfortunately was unable to take his wife and young child with him and is now very concerned at what will happen to them.
There must be more to that story
As for the Gambia, it's all a bit "Tyrant" TV showish
KrazyIvan said:
I never get this, if I needEd to flee my country but couldn't leave with my wife and kids, I wouldn't leave.
Further reading suggests that he often travels to the UK for business, so it's likely that he has a visa that allows him to hop on a plane and head over here when it all kicked off.His wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
NinjaPower said:
Further reading suggests that he often travels to the UK for business, so it's likely that he has a visa that allows him to hop on a plane and head over here when it all kicked off.
His wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
The media say he's a 'textile engineer in Burnley'. His wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
Oakey said:
NinjaPower said:
Further reading suggests that he often travels to the UK for business, so it's likely that he has a visa that allows him to hop on a plane and head over here when it all kicked off.
His wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
The media say he's a 'textile engineer in Burnley'. His wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
NinjaPower said:
Further reading suggests that he often travels to the UK for business, so it's likely that he has a visa that allows him to hop on a plane and head over here when it all kicked off.
His wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
This grinds at me every time I see or hear about it, I'm gonna sound harsh but in my mind he's a coward leaving his wife and kid. The guy could have scooped them up and followed everyone to Senegal or just stayed put and waited for it to blow over. A friends wife was left with the rest of the women when Iraq invaded Kuwait, it took a bedu uncle to come get them and get to safety in the desert. I wouldn't be surprised if the press pushes this and the family get flown overHis wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
Fozziebear said:
NinjaPower said:
Further reading suggests that he often travels to the UK for business, so it's likely that he has a visa that allows him to hop on a plane and head over here when it all kicked off.
His wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
This grinds at me every time I see or hear about it, I'm gonna sound harsh but in my mind he's a coward leaving his wife and kid. The guy could have scooped them up and followed everyone to Senegal or just stayed put and waited for it to blow over. A friends wife was left with the rest of the women when Iraq invaded Kuwait, it took a bedu uncle to come get them and get to safety in the desert. I wouldn't be surprised if the press pushes this and the family get flown overHis wife and child won't have the same visa so cannot come with him.
Which all comes back to your point, if your family couldn't come with you, why on earth would you just leave them there on their own??
Not beyond reasonable for it to be....He has a job in the UK & provides money back home to support the family (rent, food, schooling etc). He has a choice between being trapped in Ghana with family & loose his job/income to support them or bite the bullet and come back to the UK to continue the work & leave his family with a trusted relative/friend.
It won't be as clear cut as ''he is a coward'' when it will likely be the total opposite - leave his family vs support his family.
Andehh said:
That's not fair, I imagine it will be work/visa etc related.
Not beyond reasonable for it to be....He has a job in the UK & provides money back home to support the family (rent, food, schooling etc). He has a choice between being trapped in Ghana with family & loose his job/income to support them or bite the bullet and come back to the UK to continue the work & leave his family with a trusted relative/friend.
It won't be as clear cut as ''he is a coward'' when it will likely be the total opposite - leave his family vs support his family.
Being fair isn't an option when it comes to these situations in my view, family safety comes first. I understand he needs to support his family, it's what he's supposed to do. In my eyes if you run away and leave your family in a time of possible war then you are a coward, hard but true. The likelihood of there being a conflict involving the typical horrors most African countries suffer from is slim, the Senegal government and army will put pressure on the outgoing president and he will leave, the country will suffer badly from loss of tourism. Not beyond reasonable for it to be....He has a job in the UK & provides money back home to support the family (rent, food, schooling etc). He has a choice between being trapped in Ghana with family & loose his job/income to support them or bite the bullet and come back to the UK to continue the work & leave his family with a trusted relative/friend.
It won't be as clear cut as ''he is a coward'' when it will likely be the total opposite - leave his family vs support his family.
Fozziebear said:
Andehh said:
That's not fair, I imagine it will be work/visa etc related.
Not beyond reasonable for it to be....He has a job in the UK & provides money back home to support the family (rent, food, schooling etc). He has a choice between being trapped in Ghana with family & loose his job/income to support them or bite the bullet and come back to the UK to continue the work & leave his family with a trusted relative/friend.
It won't be as clear cut as ''he is a coward'' when it will likely be the total opposite - leave his family vs support his family.
Being fair isn't an option when it comes to these situations in my view, family safety comes first. I understand he needs to support his family, it's what he's supposed to do. In my eyes if you run away and leave your family in a time of possible war then you are a coward, hard but true. The likelihood of there being a conflict involving the typical horrors most African countries suffer from is slim, the Senegal government and army will put pressure on the outgoing president and he will leave, the country will suffer badly from loss of tourism. Not beyond reasonable for it to be....He has a job in the UK & provides money back home to support the family (rent, food, schooling etc). He has a choice between being trapped in Ghana with family & loose his job/income to support them or bite the bullet and come back to the UK to continue the work & leave his family with a trusted relative/friend.
It won't be as clear cut as ''he is a coward'' when it will likely be the total opposite - leave his family vs support his family.
It's not as if we are talking about a country with minimal heavily manned boarders 1,000's of miles away either. I wonder what the furthest distance from a boarder is in Gambia, a few 100 miles at most?
Fozziebear said:
This grinds at me every time I see or hear about it, I'm gonna sound harsh but in my mind he's a coward leaving his wife and kid. The guy could have scooped them up and followed everyone to Senegal or just stayed put and waited for it to blow over. A friends wife was left with the rest of the women when Iraq invaded Kuwait, it took a bedu uncle to come get them and get to safety in the desert. I wouldn't be surprised if the press pushes this and the family get flown over
Agreed, cowardice for sure. I'd rather stand by my family and get killed trying to protect them, than abandon them to an unknown fate. It would be different if they were supposed to be getting a later flight or something, but this guy knew they wouldn't be able to make it over.
True too, that the media might freak out trying to do something about it, as if just sodding off and leaving the wife and kids behind is a reasonable thing to do.
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