Sleaford and North Hykeham by-election

[FN2TypeR]

///ajd said:

brenflys777 said:

///ajd said:

You have been intimidated by the Lib Dems?

I'd like to have seen you cowering in fear of their oppresive rhetoric.

Death by a thousand (over exaggerated) cuts?

He seems to be taking it badly.

The Lib Dems got THREE times more votes in 2016 than in 2015 in Witney, DESPITE turnout of only 38,000 votes, down from 58,000 at the GE.

He is having nightmares about the Lib Dems. I fear for his mattress.

Edited by ///ajd on Saturday 3rd December 23:53

Edited by ///ajd on Saturday 3rd December 23:54

And then, after this increase in vote share, they won the seat, right?

Right?

By elections showing results that buck national polling trends for various reasons - nothing to see here. Were you so confident of UKIP doing ever so well in the future after they won two of them?

Somehow I doubt it.

[cirian75]

I think the Conservatives will retain the seat

The question is who is going to be second?

[FN2TypeR]

cirian75 said:

I think the Conservatives will retain the seat

The question is who is going to be second?

UKIP me thinks, they were third last time around with Labour in second, but only 900 votes separated them and Labour are absolutely doomed, so they'll slide right down the results chart IMO.

[BlackLabel]

Some journalists on twitter are suggesting that Labour are set to drop to 4th here.

[Northern Munkee]

Low turn out 37% means the result, no matter what, will be dismissed by the big losers. So if it's won by Cons, UKIP and Labour and Lib Dems lose their deposits they and the media will ignore it.

[Deptford Draylons]

BlackLabel said:

Some journalists on twitter are suggesting that Labour are set to drop to 4th here.

Please let Labour finish behind Bus-Pass Elvis Party.

[nightcruiser]

Sleaford & North Hykeham result:
CON: 53.5% (-2.7)
UKIP: 13.5% (-2.2)
LDEM: 11.0% (+5.3)
LAB: 10.2% (-7.0)
LIND: 8.8% (+3.6)

[SKP555]

Expect wall to wall coverage this morning on the BBC saying it's a strong and renewed mandate for Brexit, and an approval of Trump as well.

[Kermit power]

dandarez said:

You are a utter tt aren't you?

Just out of interest, after starting a post like that were you actually expecting anyone to read the rest of it and give it any credibility?

I didn't bother reading it, so I don't know if I agree with it or not. If you're really finding it that difficult to post in a civilised fashion, maybe you're out of your depth in the debate?

dandarez said:

Both Richmond Park and my constituency (Witney) did not see a 'big shift' to LDums.
Both were low turnouts.

Here is my post pre Richmond on that thread

'Turnout much lower than GE.
Oh god, no, Lib-Dum Olney is going to have a chance now
...Farron is going to be all over the news.'

See. Spot on!

Neither was a 'big surprise' as the Lib-Dums 'spent out' on each - ffs! I was getting phone calls from them at the last minute in the Witney one and I have NEVER voted Lib-Dum in my life, they must have been going through the phone directory! It was tantamount to intimidation. I have voted in elections since the 60s, I have been at the old rallies where heckling was the norm (no violence nor intimidation like today) but never have I experienced anything like the Dums campaign. Ever! I even got (albeit printed) 'handwritten' letters from the Lib-Dum candidate. I even got their crap twice in one day! They really must have spent a fortune (which they haven't really got).

They were annihilated at the last G. Election, and they will be again at the next.

[Robertj21a]

Interesting to note that the Labour vote has dropped so much. Not a surprise, given Corbyn, but interesting all the same.

[FiF]

In the style of some on PH, you know taking one little bit of the narrative that supports their argument and ignoring all the rest, only candidates to increase share were LD and local independent, I think it was local independent anyway. So, seeing as LD were always the protest vote recipients, does this mean an increase in the none of the above anti establishment vote?

I know, extremely convoluted, but still not as bad as the looking for the cloud behind every silver lining crowd. Lol.

[BlackLabel]

Labour were a few hundred votes away from coming 5th yet their losing candidate said he was proud of how they did.

""But we're proud of what we did. We kept our deposit which some people said we were going to lose.""

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38258976

[jmorgan]

BlackLabel said:

Labour were a few hundred votes away from coming 5th yet their losing candidate said he was proud of how they did.

""But we're proud of what we did. We kept our deposit which some people said we were going to lose.""

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38258976

Took me a while to get the numbers, I know they were in the piece but dotted around the place.

I like tables.

Cons 17,570
UKIP 4,426
Lib 3,606
Lab 3,363

Yep. Close.

[Smiler.]

I thought UKIP were "finished"

[GreatGranny]

Smiler. said:

I thought UKIP were "finished"

It's Sleaford, Lincolnshire so really not surprising they got that many votes. I should know, I live just outside Sleaford!)

60% Brexit vote

[Kermit power]

Smiler. said:

I thought UKIP were "finished"

I suppose they might hang on until Article 50 has been triggered, or possibly even until we actually leave, but realistically, of course they're finished.

[Biker 1]

Remember all the hoo-ha from the BBC regarding the Richmond by-election? Front page news. Tim Farron gloating. The BBC giving hours of airtime. The Sleaford result isn't even the lead item for BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
Perhaps this should be on the BBC bias topic...
Whatever, it looks more & more like Labour are doomed. I wonder when (not if) they'll finish behind the Monster Raving Loony party in an election....

[williamp]

SKP555 said:

Expect wall to wall coverage this morning on the BBC saying it's a strong and renewed mandate for Brexit, and an approval of Trump as well.

Yep. Its all over the news isnt it...

[Kermit power]

Biker 1 said:

Remember all the hoo-ha from the BBC regarding the Richmond by-election? Front page news. Tim Farron gloating. The BBC giving hours of airtime. The Sleaford result isn't even the lead item for BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
Perhaps this should be on the BBC bias topic...
Whatever, it looks more & more like Labour are doomed. I wonder when (not if) they'll finish behind the Monster Raving Loony party in an election....

I think you're reading something into the BBC response that isn't there.

One by-election was a complete media circus thanks to Goldsmith, whereas the other was a "business as usual, nothing to see here" Conservative victory in a safe Conservative seat with little to really distinguish itself.

Yes, they might've given more space to Labour winning a by-election in a safe Labour seat, but that would only be because under Corbyn, you've got to question whether such a thing still exists!

[motco]

Biker 1 said:

Remember all the hoo-ha from the BBC regarding the Richmond by-election? Front page news. Tim Farron gloating. The BBC giving hours of airtime. The Sleaford result isn't even the lead item for BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
Perhaps this should be on the BBC bias topic...
Whatever, it looks more & more like Labour are doomed. I wonder when (not if) they'll finish behind the Monster Raving Loony party in an election....

They were doomed after Neil Kinnock swanned off to Europe, but along came Blair...