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XCP said:
...The fact that he received compo in the past should not necessarily be seen as an admission of wrongdoing. It's just cheaper.
Which is an absolute crying shame and at the root of a lot of social ills in this country now IMO. The direct cost may be cheaper, I'm not sure of the indirect knock on costs.Murph7355 said:
XCP said:
...The fact that he received compo in the past should not necessarily be seen as an admission of wrongdoing. It's just cheaper.
Which is an absolute crying shame and at the root of a lot of social ills in this country now IMO. The direct cost may be cheaper, I'm not sure of the indirect knock on costs.Rovinghawk said:
XCP said:
The police and other organisations often make payouts without any admission of liability. f
k off money in the vernacular. The fact that he received compo in the past should not necessarily be seen as an admission of wrongdoing.
But wrongdoing can't be ruled out.k off money in the vernacular. The fact that he received compo in the past should not necessarily be seen as an admission of wrongdoing. 
Borroxs said:
Two able bodied coppers can't handle one old man that's actually only trying to leave the scene, isn't swinging a baseball bat or anything. Even his dog didn't put up a fuss FFS.
Love the way she says "youve been tasered" in her wurzel accent.
He just doesn't give a sLove the way she says "youve been tasered" in her wurzel accent.
t! Man's faithful friend!XCP said:
Indeed. But the way some are talking it's some kind of cast iron admission, which is clearly not the case.
As you would say: indeed. OTOH with the way some are talking there is obviously no wrongdoing even though there's a compensation payment, which is equally clearly not the case.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4684606/Fe...
She's been charged
She's been charged
Edited by Sheets Tabuer on Tuesday 11th July 12:38
Sheets Tabuer said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4684606/Fe...
She's been charged
It's trial time in the above case.She's been charged
Edited by Sheets Tabuer on Tuesday 11th July 12:38
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-43870...
However in another twist it appears the victim of that taser incident/the race relations adviser is a bit of a racist himself.
"A former race relations advisor to the police has been charged with a racially aggravated offence.
Judah Adunbi, 64, was arrested at his Bristol home on 18 April and will appear in court next month.
Mr Adunbi was hit in the face with a Taser in January 2017."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-43849...
Greendubber said:
Officer found not guilty of assault at court.
Indeed: La Liga said:
If they honestly believe him to be someone wanted, then I don't see too much trouble legally justifying the force.
They can have a second bite with the misconduct, though. Hopefully it'll get binned since the criminal matter was not proven. Greendubber said:
He's also been charged for the racially aggravated offence in a betting shop and will be in court on the 22nd of May.
He was found NG over the allegation he called the betting shop worker 'white scum'. Sounds like the witnesses didn't perform too well in court.She's been cleared at her misconduct hearing too.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/05/po...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/05/po...
BlackLabel said:
She's been cleared at her misconduct hearing too.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/05/po...
Judah Adunbi claims he wouldnt have shot if he was White British. that of course is correct as a white british would not be mistaken for an afro-carribean man quite so easily.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/05/po...
he is now commencing civil proceedings. 3rd time lucky must be what he is hoping for
Quick glance back through the topic shows this attracted all the trolls / people who can't resist posting even through they have no idea what they're talking about.
They're oddly quiet now.
They're oddly quiet now.
BlackLabel said:
She's been cleared at her misconduct hearing too.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/05/po...
It only took 19 (?) months to sort... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/05/po...
pavarotti1980 said:
Judah Adunbi claims he wouldnt have shot if he was White British. that of course is correct as a white british would not be mistaken for an afro-carribean man quite so easily.
he is now commencing civil proceedings. 3rd time lucky must be what he is hoping for
If a misconduct hearing and a criminal court are satisfied that the force used was justifiable, it makes one wonder what grounds he thinks he has for a civil action. I am aware that the burden of proof is lower, but so is that in a misconduct hearing. I presume he is after 'f&ck off' money. I hope he doesn't get any.he is now commencing civil proceedings. 3rd time lucky must be what he is hoping for
XCP said:
If a misconduct hearing and a criminal court are satisfied that the force used was justifiable, it makes one wonder what grounds he thinks he has for a civil action. I am aware that the burden of proof is lower, but so is that in a misconduct hearing. I presume he is after 'f&ck off' money. I hope he doesn't get any.
I hope they use the fact the criminal and employment thresholds havent been met as justification to take him on. Maybe he should take it on the chin (just like he did with the taser barb) and move on and know in future not to be a smart ar5e and just answer a simple question like "what is your name?"
pavarotti1980 said:
XCP said:
If a misconduct hearing and a criminal court are satisfied that the force used was justifiable, it makes one wonder what grounds he thinks he has for a civil action. I am aware that the burden of proof is lower, but so is that in a misconduct hearing. I presume he is after 'f&ck off' money. I hope he doesn't get any.
I hope they use the fact the criminal and employment thresholds havent been met as justification to take him on. Maybe he should take it on the chin (just like he did with the taser barb) and move on and know in future not to be a smart ar5e and just answer a simple question like "what is your name?"
k off money. They'll give him a few grand and tell him to bugger off. Personally I'd rather they fight it but they wont as it's cheaper to pay him a smaller amount to just fk off.I used to patrol the area where this took place on foot, about 35 years ago. I once ran for my life from a mob of men brandishing knives in a street round the corner from where this took place. ( Heron Road if anyone knows it) It was pretty rough then and so were the coppers. In those days our only weapon was a wooden truncheon. I only ever used mine once on a human being. Handcuffs were very rarely carried. They were not personal issue.
If this incident had occurred in 1982 he would have been decked by 2 officers, and restrained physically until reinforcements arrived. He may well have been injured in the process. He would then have been bundled into the back of a 2 door car and taken to the station where he would be subject to detention before the safeguards introduced by PACE, and would probably have been charged with something made up and detained for court. ( No CPS in those days)
No-one of course would be filming or photographing the incident.
All in all, how things have changed for the better! People have short memories.
( apologies if I have got too anecdotal)
If this incident had occurred in 1982 he would have been decked by 2 officers, and restrained physically until reinforcements arrived. He may well have been injured in the process. He would then have been bundled into the back of a 2 door car and taken to the station where he would be subject to detention before the safeguards introduced by PACE, and would probably have been charged with something made up and detained for court. ( No CPS in those days)
No-one of course would be filming or photographing the incident.
All in all, how things have changed for the better! People have short memories.
( apologies if I have got too anecdotal)
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