Marine A secures new hearing.
Discussion
LordHaveMurci said:
castroses said:
Yep Marine A banged up due to some Officer Dibble w
kstain sticking his nose in where it didn't belong. Of course I'm sure it's the case that no plod has ever bent or broken the rules.
Just another symptom of all that's wrong in this country.
He was banged up for murdering somebody. kstain sticking his nose in where it didn't belong. Of course I'm sure it's the case that no plod has ever bent or broken the rules. Just another symptom of all that's wrong in this country.
You've been in that position I imagine? Tell us how you reacted.........
Rovinghawk said:
Hosenbugler said:
p1stonhead said:
Shooting in a direction and accidently hitting someone you are not supposed to is a fk up.
Deliberately murdering someone point blank isnt a fk up. Its no different to any other murder. Possibly worse because they are professional killers who should know explicitly what they are capable of and who they shouldnt be killing.
You'd know of course, from your time as a frontline combat soldier. k up.Deliberately murdering someone point blank isnt a f
k up. Its no different to any other murder. Possibly worse because they are professional killers who should know explicitly what they are capable of and who they shouldnt be killing.I agree with what p1stonhead wrote. YMMV.
castroses said:
He was banged up for murdering somebody who five minutes earlier was trying to murder him.
You've been in that position I imagine? Tell us how you reacted.........
Ok then, Rambo. You're in a firefight. Rounds incoming. Eventually your unit (squad/platoon/company/battalion/whatever) starts to gain the upper hand. Eventually the enemy crack. Up goes the white flag, and they walk towards you with their arms raised.You've been in that position I imagine? Tell us how you reacted.........
I presume you machine-gun them to death?
p1stonhead said:
castroses said:
Hosenbugler said:
p1stonhead said:
VolvoT5 said:
I don't know about the specifics of this particular case but I do know I wouldn't join the forces or police for love nor money these days. These men and women are put in extreme circumstances (sometimes with inadequate training/equipment/backup) that most of us could barely imagine and when they fk up we seem to judge them by the 'lock em up and throw away the key' standard of justice.
Of course there have to be rules for professionals in this line of work but there also has to be some understanding that any person could crack or lack 'moral courage' under these circumstances and sentences should be issued according to that and to risk to the public of re-offending.
Shooting in a direction and accidently hitting someone you are not supposed to is a fk up we seem to judge them by the 'lock em up and throw away the key' standard of justice. Of course there have to be rules for professionals in this line of work but there also has to be some understanding that any person could crack or lack 'moral courage' under these circumstances and sentences should be issued according to that and to risk to the public of re-offending.
k up.Deliberately murdering someone point blank isnt a f
k up. Its no different to any other murder. Possibly worse because they are professional killers who should know explicitly what they are capable of and who they shouldnt be killing.If you've served in the armed forces of this country, you may have a valid opinion. I have.
If you haven't, then anything you think you know about this case is quite frankly b
ks. t. So any judge or jury in this country can't judge on a case unless they do the job of the defendant?
Jesus people like you lot are terrifying stupid. You are unfit to serve in our armed forces in my civilian opinion which matters exactly the same as yours does.
Joey Ramone said:
castroses said:
He was banged up for murdering somebody who five minutes earlier was trying to murder him.
You've been in that position I imagine? Tell us how you reacted.........
Ok then, Rambo. You're in a firefight. Rounds incoming. Eventually your unit (squad/platoon/company/battalion/whatever) starts to gain the upper hand. Eventually the enemy crack. Up goes the white flag, and they walk towards you with their arms raised.You've been in that position I imagine? Tell us how you reacted.........
I presume you machine-gun them to death?
'Machine gun them to death' - well I'm not going to machine gun them only to serious injury am I.......?
Edited by castroses on Wednesday 7th December 23:19
Hosenbugler said:
Yep, you know, you have done the job, after all. People like you should be conscripted, do the job, then judge others. Would be fair I think.
So how many people is a soldier/marine/matelot/pilot be allowed to murder before a civvy can legitimately point out that it's wrong?Joey Ramone said:
castroses said:
I presume if it were you, standing there with the blood and guts of your dead mates around you, you'd break out the tea and cucumber sandwiches? Maybe get everyone to join in a couple of choruses of Kum ba ya?
Answer the question, you penis.t won't work. So what about you - cucumber sandwiches and Kum ba ya?
castroses said:
NinjaPower said:
La Liga said:
Castroses is certainly a bright one
He notes that a police officer was "sticking his nose in where it didn't belong".The officer was investigating a crime. I'm fairly sure "sticking your nose into peoples things" while investigating them for a crime is fairly normal practice.
The same types of dibble who upon retirement go to work for for organisations like Red Snapper investigating spurious claims against servicemen in Iraq etc. All the while profiting from this countries Legal Aid budget whilst simultaneously undermining the country. You couldn't make it up.
Bigends said:
castroses said:
NinjaPower said:
La Liga said:
Castroses is certainly a bright one
He notes that a police officer was "sticking his nose in where it didn't belong".The officer was investigating a crime. I'm fairly sure "sticking your nose into peoples things" while investigating them for a crime is fairly normal practice.
The same types of dibble who upon retirement go to work for for organisations like Red Snapper investigating spurious claims against servicemen in Iraq etc. All the while profiting from this countries Legal Aid budget whilst simultaneously undermining the country. You couldn't make it up.
We are not talking about an innocent member of the public here. We are talking about an armed insurgent who moments earlier was trying to kill British troops AND who was apparently already mortally wounded.
Some perspective required here I think. If anything it was a mercy killing.
castroses said:
Yes. In the middle of a firefight if the enemy suddenly threw up his hands and stopped trying to kill me, I'm afraid the die is already cast and that st won't work.
So what about you - cucumber sandwiches and Kum ba ya?
Keep repeating cucumber sandwiches and kum ba ya all night. It's just extra effort.t won't work. So what about you - cucumber sandwiches and Kum ba ya?
The mark of a good unit is discipline, both in and out of battle. I've no idea what I would do but what I would WANT to do is immediately recognise my responsibilities under the Geneva Convention, and my responsibilities as a professional. Which is why, in the vast majority of cases, our phenomenal armed forces don't go round killing people after they've surrendered, even if moments before they've been trying to kill them.
You show no similar attributes, You sound like you'd make a s
t soldier. Uncontrollable. Not a good sign.Joey Ramone said:
castroses said:
Yes. In the middle of a firefight if the enemy suddenly threw up his hands and stopped trying to kill me, I'm afraid the die is already cast and that st won't work.
So what about you - cucumber sandwiches and Kum ba ya?
Keep repeating cucumber sandwiches and kum ba ya all night. It's just extra effort.t won't work. So what about you - cucumber sandwiches and Kum ba ya?
The mark of a good unit is discipline, both in and out of battle. I've no idea what I would do but what I would WANT to do is immediately recognise my responsibilities under the Geneva Convention, and my responsibilities as a professional. Which is why, in the vast majority of cases, our phenomenal armed forces don't go round killing people after they've surrendered, even if moments before they've been trying to kill them.
You show no similar attributes, You sound like you'd make a s
t soldier. Uncontrollable. Not a good sign.t soldier for wanting to kill the enemy? Riiigghhhtttttt...Apologies - I didn't realise you we're such an expert and knew so much about military life. Thank you for your service!
castroses said:
st soldier for wanting to kill the enemy? Riiigghhhtttttt...
Apologies - I didn't realise you we're such an expert and knew so much about military life. Thank you for your service!
I'll simply say this. Colonel Ollie Lee, possibly the most highly regarded Royal Marines officer of his generation, resigned in protest over what happened with respect to this incident. He believes that Blackman was treated unjustly, but he certainly believes that what Blackman did was wrong. But if you looked him in the eye and told him that you see no problem killing prisoners, he'd call you a t soldier for wanting to kill the enemy? Riiigghhhtttttt...Apologies - I didn't realise you we're such an expert and knew so much about military life. Thank you for your service!
.How do I know that? Because I worked with him.
castroses said:
st soldier for wanting to kill the enemy? Riiigghhhtttttt...
Apologies - I didn't realise you we're such an expert and knew so much about military life. Thank you for your service!
You are wrong, and the less people like you on the front line the better. It would make a difficult job much more difficult.t soldier for wanting to kill the enemy? Riiigghhhtttttt...Apologies - I didn't realise you we're such an expert and knew so much about military life. Thank you for your service!
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