Pearl Harbor - 75th Anniversary
Discussion
Rovinghawk said:
Vanin said:
Has the conspiracy theory been debunked or do some still believe that it was allowed to happen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
I remember hearing about 'Pearl Harbour' weather- a nasty nip in the air.
Ayahuasca said:
Rovinghawk said:
Vanin said:
Has the conspiracy theory been debunked or do some still believe that it was allowed to happen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
I remember hearing about 'Pearl Harbour' weather- a nasty nip in the air.
Midget sub doc after it on e4 was interesting and the Jutland doc was also very interesting.
FourWheelDrift said:
Jimbeaux said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Jimbeaux said:
IIRC, I saw it stated once that "live action" battle scenes from WWI were either training exercises or reenacted for film because of various limitations. Any truth to that? The filming of the aftermath of battles and interviews are certainly plentiful.
Most of the over the top/men advancing films were setup but there was a TV programme on over here a little while ago that found proof that one advance of soldiers across no mans land during the Somme offensive was real. Even finding the spot from which the cameraman had stood and the area he took, regiment and men who served.I have found a clip of it, ignore the first 22 seconds as those bits have been made up after, it's the clip of the hill later, soldiers are moving right to left.
Sorry it's not a bigger size, from 23 seconds on - http://www.britishpathe.com/video/british-tommies
"Genuine Somme battle footage: General view of battlefield with soldiers in trench or dugout. Men are seen running across the field. Some fall, wounded. (Note: Action is clearer in HD)"
Forensic lip reader too (forget they did that) to give voices to the silent films.
Northern Munkee said:
Ayahuasca said:
Rovinghawk said:
Vanin said:
Has the conspiracy theory been debunked or do some still believe that it was allowed to happen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
I remember hearing about 'Pearl Harbour' weather- a nasty nip in the air.
Midget sub doc after it on e4 was interesting and the Jutland doc was also very interesting.
Jimbeaux said:
One of the things that helps the conspiracy stay afloat was that all of the carriers just happened to not be in PH when the attack occurred.
Except that at the time the carriers pre-eminence at sea wasn't recognised, and the battleship was still seen as the key asset. At the time carriers were still seen as supporting assets, used for scouting and harassing enemy ships. Their detractors could rightly point out that no battleship had been sunk by airpower alone - that changed with PoW/Repulse, sunk by land based planes, confirmed by Coral Sea and set in stone by Midway, all of which lay in the future.MBBlat said:
Jimbeaux said:
One of the things that helps the conspiracy stay afloat was that all of the carriers just happened to not be in PH when the attack occurred.
Except that at the time the carriers pre-eminence at sea wasn't recognised, and the battleship was still seen as the key asset. At the time carriers were still seen as supporting assets, used for scouting and harassing enemy ships. Their detractors could rightly point out that no battleship had been sunk by airpower alone - that changed with PoW/Repulse, sunk by land based planes, confirmed by Coral Sea and set in stone by Midway, all of which lay in the future.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff