CIA investigation into US election ordered

[scherzkeks]

Mr Tracy said:

Putin has made America a laughing stock, Trump is the cherry on top

America has been a laughing stock since Reagan, and neo-McCarthyites are the cherry on top.

[Muntu]

ATG said:

Last time I looked, the FBI had been paying plenty of attention to Clinton. And as a matter of principle you don't want politicians telling the FBI specifically what they should and shouldn't be investigating.

But what has Clinton and her possible misdemeanours got to do with investigating Russia's conduct? Absolutely nothing. They are two completely separate things and it's daft to try to link the two.

They are clearly linked by the election

If BHO's investigation shines a light on something that could be detrimental to HRC / the Democrats rather than Trump I'll print off this page and eat it.

[Vipers]

All I can say is the Washington Post was right about Watergate.

[BlackLabel]

Kind of ironic that the CIA, an agency which has a well documented history of interfering and interrupting the workings of democracies all around the world, is now investigating the US election.

[ATG]

Muntu said:

ATG said:

Last time I looked, the FBI had been paying plenty of attention to Clinton. And as a matter of principle you don't want politicians telling the FBI specifically what they should and shouldn't be investigating.

But what has Clinton and her possible misdemeanours got to do with investigating Russia's conduct? Absolutely nothing. They are two completely separate things and it's daft to try to link the two.

They are clearly linked by the election

If BHO's investigation shines a light on something that could be detrimental to HRC / the Democrats rather than Trump I'll print off this page and eat it.

That makes as much sense as saying you'll eat your hat if the report says something detrimental about Henry VIII.

Unless someone is crazy enough to think that someone on the Trump team actually asked the Russians to get material hacked and passed on to Wikileaks, then why do you think exposing Russian shenanigans is going to hurt Trump anyway? The assumption that this report is a Democrat or Establishment plot to hurt Trump is bonkers.

[Muntu]

ATG said:

Muntu said:

ATG said:

Last time I looked, the FBI had been paying plenty of attention to Clinton. And as a matter of principle you don't want politicians telling the FBI specifically what they should and shouldn't be investigating.

But what has Clinton and her possible misdemeanours got to do with investigating Russia's conduct? Absolutely nothing. They are two completely separate things and it's daft to try to link the two.

They are clearly linked by the election

If BHO's investigation shines a light on something that could be detrimental to HRC / the Democrats rather than Trump I'll print off this page and eat it.

That makes as much sense as saying you'll eat your hat if the report says something detrimental about Henry VIII.

Unless someone is crazy enough to think that someone on the Trump team actually asked the Russians to get material hacked and passed on to Wikileaks, then why do you think exposing Russian shenanigans is going to hurt Trump anyway? The assumption that this report is a Democrat or Establishment plot to hurt Trump is bonkers.

If it shows that the Russians somehow influenced the election then it delegitimises Trump. The Democrats would love this. Ergo, it will happen.

If you think there will be no narrative that harms Trump then you are the one that is bonkers. Your responses to this thread so far have been less than astute.

[rscott]

Muntu said:

If it shows that the Russians somehow influenced the election then it delegitimises Trump. The Democrats would love this. Ergo, it will happen.

If you think there will be no narrative that harms Trump then you are the one that is bonkers. Your responses to this thread so far have been less than astute.

Obama's requested a review of all elections since 2008, not just the 2016 one. His call is backed by both sides of the house.

The sensible approach for Trump to take would be to welcome the investigation as it would prove he was fairly elected.

[Mr Tracy]

scherzkeks said:

Mr Tracy said:

Putin has made America a laughing stock, Trump is the cherry on top

America has been a laughing stock since Reagan, and neo-McCarthyites are the cherry on top.

It used to be a bit of a chuckle, whats happening there now is just embarrassing. Mind you, we have to suffer the awkwardness of Brexit so i shouldn't really throw too many stones.

[wc98]

ATG said:

Last time I looked, the FBI had been paying plenty of attention to Clinton. And as a matter of principle you don't want politicians telling the FBI specifically what they should and shouldn't be investigating.

But what has Clinton and her possible misdemeanours got to do with investigating Russia's conduct? Absolutely nothing. They are two completely separate things and it's daft to try to link the two.

agreed, does make you wonder just how stupid her aides were to keep using the same messaging system they apparently knew was being hacked by the russians though !

[turbobloke]

ATG said:

Last time I looked, the FBI had been paying plenty of attention to Clinton. And as a matter of principle you don't want politicians telling the FBI specifically what they should and shouldn't be investigating.

But what has Clinton and her possible misdemeanours got to do with investigating Russia's conduct? Absolutely nothing. They are two completely separate things and it's daft to try to link the two.

According to local radio news earlier today, and local radio news is always correct a key aspect of the investigations into Russia's involvement relates to wikileaks in terms of support/assistance for timed release of information relating to Clinton's ability to manage email comms.

[Sylvaforever]

Mr Tracy said:

It used to be a bit of a chuckle, whats happening there now is just embarrassing. Mind you, we have to suffer the awkwardness of Brexit so i shouldn't really throw too many stones.

"Suffer" ?? the whole nation needs to man up and look forwards to the golden light of freedom not backwards to the darkness of tyranny...

I left the red bit out ..

[Ayahuasca]

BlackLabel said:

Kind of ironic that the CIA, an agency which has a well documented history of interfering and interrupting the workings of democracies all around the world, is now investigating the US election.

Yep. If true, had their own game played back at them.

Salvador Allende must be having a chuckle.

[anonymous-user]

It's not like they made things up. They just uncovered the apparently ironically named Democrats efforts to subvert the democratic nomination of Sanders. If the release of those emails effected the election that's their own fvcking look out.

[davepoth]

fblm said:

It's not like they made things up. They just uncovered the apparently ironically named Democrats efforts to subvert the democratic nomination of Sanders. If the release of those emails effected the election that's their own fvcking look out.

Although to be fair it was rigged in the wide open too - the way the superdelegates almost all went for Hilary was obviously the result of some shenanigans.

[dvs_dave]

It's worrying how Trump is simply dismissing, mocking even, a fact based narrative provided by the intelligence agencies. He's only been to a handful of the intelligence briefings since becoming president elect, so what else is he ignoring because it doesn't suit?

http://nyti.ms/2hxJ2Gz

[Astacus]

La Liga said:

I like the response from Trump's team, "The same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction."

So what are they saying? They're not fit for purpose? Or one of the times they were wrong (as with most intelligence there's that risk) means they are wrong again?

Yep spotted that this morning and then thought to myself that'll work right up until the CIA have something he wants to use against one of his critics. then they will be golden, never wrong.....etc etc

[Art0ir]

fblm said:

It's not like they made things up. They just uncovered the apparently ironically named Democrats efforts to subvert the democratic nomination of Sanders. If the release of those emails effected the election that's their own fvcking look out.

Exactly. "It's the Russian's fault the DNC rigged their primaries to try and elect a neocon."

[AW111]

dvs_dave said:

It's worrying how Trump is simply dismissing, mocking even, a fact based narrative provided by the intelligence agencies. He's only been to a handful of the intelligence briefings since becoming president elect, so what else is he ignoring because it doesn't suit?

http://nyti.ms/2hxJ2Gz

Eventually Trump will have to realise that as president he will have to work with these agencies he is so happy to belittle.

[turbobloke]

AW111 said:

dvs_dave said:

It's worrying how Trump is simply dismissing, mocking even, a fact based narrative provided by the intelligence agencies. He's only been to a handful of the intelligence briefings since becoming president elect, so what else is he ignoring because it doesn't suit?

http://nyti.ms/2hxJ2Gz

Eventually Trump will have to realise that as president he will have to work with these agencies he is so happy to belittle.

Quite so, and they will have to work with him as he will be their boss.

[bitchstewie]

A useful read https://theintercept.com/2016/12/10/anonymous-leak...