The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)

[sidicks]

Tryke3 said:

Talking of finding articles that reinforce my view, here is a great one https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar...

I really couldnt be bothered to type something similar because life is too short to argue with loonies on the internet

We did try to give you the benefit of the doubt, despite all the nonsense you post!

[brenflys777]

FiF said:

Just out of interest who would change their buying choices if the EU behaved like a set of a-holes in thus negotiation.

As a family we try and buy British, not always possible. If the EU really set out on a punishment approach, the buy British would stay, but after that, anywhere but the EU as next choice. Anyone else? Petty, yes, childish, yes. Stuff 'em.

I don't think it's childish at all, my M135i was chosen as my favoured tool for the job, if the EU as a collective seeks to punish the UK then it would affect my emotional enjoyment of its replacement if I felt I was being disrespected. Might actually be quite beneficial for the environment as British food and produce becomes more attractive too.

[davepoth]

Tryke3 said:

Talking of finding articles that reinforce my view, here is a great one https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar...

I really couldnt be bothered to type something similar because life is too short to argue with loonies on the internet

That opinion piece is claptrap. "Empire 2.0" was something written in a disparaging fashion by someone in Whitehall who didn't like the idea of not being part of the EU gravy train any more but a lot of Guardianistas have latched onto is as something to apologise for.

It won't be Empire 2.0. It will be Commonwealth 2.0 with any luck. Think about that word "commonwealth" a little - "a political community founded for the common good" and you can see how it should operate. It's fair to say we missed the boat with China, but the signs are that India will shortly undertake a similar explosion in growth - and for all the bad things we did there, there's a reason why India is the world's largest parliamentary democracy.

[Carl_Manchester]

As others, including myself have said on here more than once, the EU do not want to negotiate and have never wanted to.

It will be a bit like Eurovision, the U.K will be warmly invited to the party but when the votes are counted they tell their own story.

[Cobnapint]

Carl_Manchester said:

As others, including myself have said on here more than once, the EU do not want to negotiate and have never wanted to.

It will be a bit like Eurovision, the U.K will be warmly invited to the party but when the votes are counted they tell their own story.

Completely. I'm a leaver, but even I admit the smiles are going to be wiped off May's and Davis's faces at the end of all this.

The EU have already set the tone, they've said they are united, they want £60bn off us from the word go. Preservation of the EU is PARAMOUNT. We are going to be whipped with the headmaster's cane in front of the rest of the class, bare buttocks and all, as a warning to others who might be thinking of demanding their sovereignty back. It'll all be over in less than a year.

[Fastdruid]

https://www.ft.com/content/5b7690ce-0b08-11e7-ac5a...

(Text if you can't read it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/60b0w... )

[amusingduck]

Fastdruid said:

https://www.ft.com/content/5b7690ce-0b08-11e7-ac5a...

(Text if you can't read it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/60b0w... )

You can get around the ft paywall (and indeed, most paywalls) by googling the article.

Something to do with google not listing pages if it's robots can't crawl the article (which a paywall would prevent).

For example, this article is -
https://www.ft.com/content/5b7690ce-0b08-11e7-ac5a...

if you google "ft" and the last bit "5b7690ce-0b08-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43" to get "ft 5b7690ce-0b08-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43"

you get -


Which you can click on to give you the full article -

[Fastdruid]

Yes.... Or you can get the Chrome plug-in for bypassing paywalls.

[B'stard Child]

Fastdruid said:

Yes.... Or you can get the Chrome plug-in for bypassing paywalls.

I've stuck with Firefox for years but my interest here you have it

[Fastdruid]

B'stard Child said:

Fastdruid said:

Yes.... Or you can get the Chrome plug-in for bypassing paywalls.

I've stuck with Firefox for years but my interest here you have it

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bypass-paywalls/gfbabigadapckiaabchaolgjfbgickop?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-info-dialog

Probably one for Firefox as well.

[B'stard Child]

Fastdruid said:

B'stard Child said:

Fastdruid said:

Yes.... Or you can get the Chrome plug-in for bypassing paywalls.

I've stuck with Firefox for years but my interest here you have it

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bypass-paywalls/gfbabigadapckiaabchaolgjfbgickop?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-info-dialog

Probably one for Firefox as well.

Thank you - off to google for the same thing for FF

[amusingduck]

Fastdruid said:

Yes.... Or you can get the Chrome plug-in for bypassing paywalls.

I didn't know about that, good job I posted really

[///ajd]

obviously didn't get the memo about turning into fishermen.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/782075/brexit-...

(ultra friendly media link, guardian not required)

[turbobloke]

///ajd said:

obviously didn't get the memo about turning into fishermen.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/782075/brexit-...

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Haven't Goldman Sachs spent a small fortune getting the EU to do what it wants them to do? They spent between €700,000 and €799,000 on lobbying in Brussels in 2014, according to the European Commission’s transparency register.

They also gave a few quid to support BSE.

"Figures from the Electoral Commission show that Citigroup and Morgan Stanley donated £250,000 each to the official Britain Stronger in Europe group ahead of the June 23 referendum on Britain's membership of the European Union. Two other US banks – Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan – donated £500,000 each to the Britain Stronger in Europe campaign before February when donations had to be declared."

I bet those staff being shuttled off out of the City are dead chuffed. Not.

[Tuna]

///ajd said:

obviously didn't get the memo about turning into fishermen.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/782075/brexit-...

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So an American company that trades globally says that they have a contingency plan to increase headcount in Europe so that they can serve European clients with minimum of fuss after Brexit.

What's the news? After Brexit, I assume a number of UK companies will also be looking at more head count in Europe to increase trade. That's what trading globally looks like.

I'm not sure what you thought that item proved.

[Sway]

"Mr Gnodde said: "We'll obviously hire people inside of Europe itself and there will be some movement, but I just want to emphasise that this is all in the context of contingency planning.

"What our eventual footprint will look like will depend on the outcome of those negotiations and what we're obliged to do because of them."

That's entirely understandable, it'd expect any company to undertake contingency planning.

Good job the Chief Negotiator for the EU has recognised the need for a financial services deal (although then denying he said it) as well as Mark Carney...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...

[///ajd]

Ah, good to see a few hundred jobs can be ignored as irrelevant. It seems some can't see the danger of a bigger EU footprint.

How about this? 24,000 jobs at stake.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/br...

Just as Minford promised!

[WinstonWolf]

///ajd said:

Ah, good to see a few hundred jobs can be ignored as irrelevant. It seems some can't see the danger of a bigger EU footprint.

How about this? 24,000 jobs at stake.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/br...

Just as Minford promised!

Looking forward to the 29th? Got a stock of man-sized pads in?

[don'tbesilly]

///ajd said:

Ah, good to see a few hundred jobs can be ignored as irrelevant.

How about this? 24,000 jobs at stake.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/br...

Just as Minford promised!

You might want to get past the headlines of the doom and gloom articles you're posting.

You're first post was debunked within minutes, the second:

“Our production network offers us flexibility,” Mr Krueger said, adding that “the UK remains an important location for us. Much will depend on how Brexit is ultimately negotiated.”

Anymore, or are you still searching?

[loafer123]

Classic rubbish..."MINI considering moving production of the electric version to Europe"...except it isn't yet being made and the UK plant is at full capacity, so they have to make it somewhere else, and if BMW have spare capacity elsewhere, that is the obvious choice.

Slasher, you really must try harder...I bet that takes you back to your school reports...