The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)
Discussion
Damned polls! Public resolve remains 54% Get on with it! to 20% Stop.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy...
https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy...
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?citizensm1th said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?don'tbesilly said:
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/type-31-frigate-co...
Digga said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?the uk,s current fisheries protection fleet consists of
4 R.N. patrol vessels one of which is in the Falklands covering English and welsh waters
they need to patrol approximately 60,000 square miles of sea(thats just english and welsh waters)
Scottish waters are patroled by
3 Scottish fisheries protection vessels and two aircraft
citizensm1th said:
Digga said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?the uk,s current fisheries protection fleet consists of
4 R.N. patrol vessels one of which is in the Falklands covering English and welsh waters
they need to patrol approximately 60,000 square miles of sea(thats just english and welsh waters)
Scottish waters are patroled by
3 Scottish fisheries protection vessels and two aircraft
Can't see any downsides myself
Well apart from being seasick but that passes after a while for most people and if they've been unemployed for any length of time (like their whole life) then sitting in front of daytime TV eating junk food means that being sick might have some added health benefits (besides the sea air)
More bad economic news courtesy of brexit:
http://order-order.com/2016/12/22/uk-shoots-up-bus...
..."The UK has shot up the annual list of countries where it is best to do business. Britain is now fifth on the Forbes magazine “Best for Business” list – rising from tenth place last December. The list’s editor said the UK moved up because of “improved scores on corruption, tax burden and monetary freedom, as well as a stronger stock market” – all of which were subject to Project Fear doom-mongering..."
Its bad news for us. Where are all these new investments going to go??? Midlands? South west? Will the office market cope? Do we need more skyscrapers?
http://order-order.com/2016/12/22/uk-shoots-up-bus...
..."The UK has shot up the annual list of countries where it is best to do business. Britain is now fifth on the Forbes magazine “Best for Business” list – rising from tenth place last December. The list’s editor said the UK moved up because of “improved scores on corruption, tax burden and monetary freedom, as well as a stronger stock market” – all of which were subject to Project Fear doom-mongering..."
Its bad news for us. Where are all these new investments going to go??? Midlands? South west? Will the office market cope? Do we need more skyscrapers?
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
Digga said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?the uk,s current fisheries protection fleet consists of
4 R.N. patrol vessels one of which is in the Falklands covering English and welsh waters
they need to patrol approximately 60,000 square miles of sea(thats just english and welsh waters)
Scottish waters are patroled by
3 Scottish fisheries protection vessels and two aircraft
Can't see any downsides myself
Well apart from being seasick but that passes after a while for most people and if they've been unemployed for any length of time (like their whole life) then sitting in front of daytime TV eating junk food means that being sick might have some added health benefits (besides the sea air)
I wonder what the cost of that would be?
///ajd said:
If the produce is in such short supply, why are there external tariffs at all?
The existence of external tariffs specifically on these products suggests the reliance on the UK is not as you imply.
I'd suggest the impact of us banning fishing to EU vessels would precipitate a severe backlash from EU states whose economies would be affected. They would block any deal on principle until we compromised. It is obvious.
It will be part of the negotiation for sure slasher. Both sides hold cards The existence of external tariffs specifically on these products suggests the reliance on the UK is not as you imply.
I'd suggest the impact of us banning fishing to EU vessels would precipitate a severe backlash from EU states whose economies would be affected. They would block any deal on principle until we compromised. It is obvious.
This constant underplaying of the strengths in the UK position is getting somewhat tiresome.
Digga said:
don'tbesilly said:
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/type-31-frigate-co...
Bargain
Who's going to break the news to Jeremy Hunt?
citizensm1th said:
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
Digga said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?the uk,s current fisheries protection fleet consists of
4 R.N. patrol vessels one of which is in the Falklands covering English and welsh waters
they need to patrol approximately 60,000 square miles of sea(thats just english and welsh waters)
Scottish waters are patroled by
3 Scottish fisheries protection vessels and two aircraft
Can't see any downsides myself
Well apart from being seasick but that passes after a while for most people and if they've been unemployed for any length of time (like their whole life) then sitting in front of daytime TV eating junk food means that being sick might have some added health benefits (besides the sea air)
1. I am not a number I am a free man
2. Why on earth would it be 1952 - national service finished in 1963.
citizensm1th said:
I wonder what the cost of that would be?
Well obviously the Ships would be a cost but we are paying the people already to do nothing......andymadmak said:
It will be part of the negotiation for sure slasher. Both sides hold cards
This constant underplaying of the strengths in the UK position is getting somewhat tiresome.
Likewise the constant overplaying and unrealistically expectation is not only worryingly but depressing as it implies you voted for something that was obviously unobtainable even under brief scrutiny. This constant underplaying of the strengths in the UK position is getting somewhat tiresome.
Thats why Gove and Boris looked so shifty on the 24th June. Oh f
k was written all over their mugs.Northern Munkee said:
Damned polls! Public resolve remains 54% Get on with it! to 20% Stop.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy...
Cherry picked by the pro-Brexit Change Britain group, obviously.https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy...
Self-selected respondents and we don't even know the question, even though it is right there.
In fairness, it isn't 20% "stop" it is 20% disagree with the statement that the Government should trigger Article 50 “as soon as possible and get on with implementing the result of the referendum to take Britain out of the EU and in doing so take back control of our borders, laws, money and trade".
There wasn't a "stop everything and turn the clock back" option.
So in essence, 54% would like to limit the uncertainty to as short a time as possible - shocker!!!
Surprised it is so low, frankly.
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
Digga said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?the uk,s current fisheries protection fleet consists of
4 R.N. patrol vessels one of which is in the Falklands covering English and welsh waters
they need to patrol approximately 60,000 square miles of sea(thats just english and welsh waters)
Scottish waters are patroled by
3 Scottish fisheries protection vessels and two aircraft
Can't see any downsides myself
Well apart from being seasick but that passes after a while for most people and if they've been unemployed for any length of time (like their whole life) then sitting in front of daytime TV eating junk food means that being sick might have some added health benefits (besides the sea air)
1. I am not a number I am a free man
2. Why on earth would it be 1952 - national service finished in 1963.
citizensm1th said:
I wonder what the cost of that would be?
Well obviously the Ships would be a cost but we are paying the people already to do nothing......Don't think National Service is necessary doesn't have to be big, fold Fisheries into it, incorporate into the Border Force, if Iceland can afford a coast guard then the f
k can't we?Edited by Northern Munkee on Friday 23 December 13:54
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
B'stard Child said:
citizensm1th said:
Digga said:
Northern Munkee said:
citizensm1th said:
Id like to know how we will patrol the Uk,s waters ,maybe we should think about re arming trawlers
A proper coast guard, like every other significant country with a coast?the uk,s current fisheries protection fleet consists of
4 R.N. patrol vessels one of which is in the Falklands covering English and welsh waters
they need to patrol approximately 60,000 square miles of sea(thats just english and welsh waters)
Scottish waters are patroled by
3 Scottish fisheries protection vessels and two aircraft
Can't see any downsides myself
Well apart from being seasick but that passes after a while for most people and if they've been unemployed for any length of time (like their whole life) then sitting in front of daytime TV eating junk food means that being sick might have some added health benefits (besides the sea air)
1. I am not a number I am a free man
2. Why on earth would it be 1952 - national service finished in 1963.
citizensm1th said:
I wonder what the cost of that would be?
Well obviously the Ships would be a cost but we are paying the people already to do nothing......2. why 1952? isn't that the golden era for brexiters?
3.It would be more than just the cost of the ships to take some feckless dole dosser from manchester and turn them into a sailor,we dont have the training staff or infrastructure to even make a dent in your 3 million unemployed figure.
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