George Michael RIP
Discussion
Bradgate said:
He was only 53. Shocking.
I believe he was a heavy dope smoker for many years and had a history of respiratory problems. He was very seriously ill with pneumonia a few years ago, but recovered.
Heaven's 2016 supergroup has an increasingly impressive line-up, sadly.
There's no such thing as Heaven. I believe he was a heavy dope smoker for many years and had a history of respiratory problems. He was very seriously ill with pneumonia a few years ago, but recovered.
Heaven's 2016 supergroup has an increasingly impressive line-up, sadly.
funkyrobot said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Just because you know that when you die, no one will bat an eyelid, there's no need to be so bitter about people being sad about the death of someone whose life actually made a positive impact on millions. He was very talented, and you're not. Get over it.
Not a huge fan myself, but he wrote Careless Whisper when he was 12, which is in itself pretty remarkable. A friend of mine worked with him a few times and always said what a nice guy he was. I real shame he has died so young, and sad for his millions of fans.
Not a huge fan myself, but he wrote Careless Whisper when he was 12, which is in itself pretty remarkable. A friend of mine worked with him a few times and always said what a nice guy he was. I real shame he has died so young, and sad for his millions of fans.
Edited by TwigtheWonderkid on Monday 26th December 00:17
That's me told.
Ooh, nobody will batter end eye lid when you die Funky. Oooh. Who gives a s
t? My daughter will miss me. Beyond that, I don't care.Just because I don't join the sheep mentality of pouring emotion for someone I didn't know. And just because I dare to voice my opinion that differs to some.
Do you know what is really weird? The headlines announced GM dying, then the queen being ill, then 92 people dying in an aeroplane crash. That's 92 families directly affected, yet the death of one singer outtrumps all of that. I don't see them rolling interviews about anyone who died on that aircraft.
As for saying he was talented. That is very subjective. I couldn't care for his music. There are people in this world who do a hell of a lot more special things, yet their deaths slip by unnoticed.
Cobnapint said:
Wtf..? What's 2016's issue?
I don't think the year is the issue, I think we just need to get used to it. There was an explosion in media and pop culture in the 60s which has been increasing year on year. More people became famous, so inevitably more famous people will be dying.Mark my words, next year will be more of the same.
Edited by S10GTA on Monday 26th December 08:56
I think his breadth of music is what was key - he appealed to such a wide age group and what a showman.
I never had the chance to see him live but know those who have and they were blown away.
100m album sales
A timeless Christmas song
Very generous
It's a real shame that he has gone so young with so much more to give.
Careless Wisper inspired me to play the sax - I simply wanted to be able to replicate that solo (still trying
).
I never had the chance to see him live but know those who have and they were blown away.
100m album sales
A timeless Christmas song
Very generous
It's a real shame that he has gone so young with so much more to give.
Careless Wisper inspired me to play the sax - I simply wanted to be able to replicate that solo (still trying
). Shame he has gone,but he's gone fact. He is in a box and knows nothing about it. He contributed to the world of music and that lives on. A good thing I think.
It's his family that will be hurting.
I Allways think that the road to dying is worse than the final act.
RIp George. You have made a difference to some.
It's his family that will be hurting.
I Allways think that the road to dying is worse than the final act.
RIp George. You have made a difference to some.
It is sad but the reality is many creative arty type people do struggle with fame and life. From Hancock topping himself to people like George Micheal who have used drugs and alcohol to help them get through. Some pay a heavy price for what we all think was an easy life. Looking at his history he has paid one hell of a price.
As an artist, he was up there with the best, his vocal range was stunning as was his emotional delivery and as others have said underrated as a writer.
What ever our views he will have close friends and family who will feel his death just like any of us will feel the loss of a close person.
As for jokes, I have no issue, it is life and humour is part of that.
Many people now feel they need to express grief in a public arena, if they don't they feel somehow left out, just wait until the Queen dies and we will see scenes of public grief that will eclipse any we have seen so far.
As an artist, he was up there with the best, his vocal range was stunning as was his emotional delivery and as others have said underrated as a writer.
What ever our views he will have close friends and family who will feel his death just like any of us will feel the loss of a close person.
As for jokes, I have no issue, it is life and humour is part of that.
Many people now feel they need to express grief in a public arena, if they don't they feel somehow left out, just wait until the Queen dies and we will see scenes of public grief that will eclipse any we have seen so far.
I dont think anyone is grieving, except his friends, family and those who are really big fans of his, I thought he did some good songs over the years and was talented but grieving, no, I didnt know him.
I think it is just a small part of your childhood and past has gone, realistically if he is alive or dead it doesnt make much difference to most as if nobody told us, we would be none the wiser, same with any of them really, enjoyed their work over the years but that all still exists and will continue to be played, no new work (well I guess whatever he had worked on will get released) but thats about it, I never bought a George Michael Album or anything Wham did but I dont mind hearing it on the radio.
It is sad that he was only 53, seven years older than me, kind of reminds you that you arent immortal either and once you get past forty all bets are off, I think a lot of these younger celeb deaths are due to being in that world, the lifestyle and all that comes with it, I suspect he may well have lived to a normal age if he was just an accountant or mechanic, but he has had issues over the years so though this was a surprise, perhaps not as much as it could be, he fell out of a moving car a while back, dont know how anyone in their right mind could do that, he crashed into a photo shop, he had Pneumonia plus other incidents, most folk dont generally have that many of those type of incidents in their lives.
Also, as has been mentioned, there are indeed more famous people, who are getting old, Zsa Zsa Gabor had been a creaking gate since I was a teenager, Lemmy did well to make it to seventy, my grandma is trucking on at 91 but then she has never drunk a whole bottle of Jack Daniels in a day and to my knowledge doesnt use Amphetamines.
I wish people would stop going on about 2016 being the problem and thinking that when 2017 starts it will be any different, it makes no odds.
I think it is just a small part of your childhood and past has gone, realistically if he is alive or dead it doesnt make much difference to most as if nobody told us, we would be none the wiser, same with any of them really, enjoyed their work over the years but that all still exists and will continue to be played, no new work (well I guess whatever he had worked on will get released) but thats about it, I never bought a George Michael Album or anything Wham did but I dont mind hearing it on the radio.
It is sad that he was only 53, seven years older than me, kind of reminds you that you arent immortal either and once you get past forty all bets are off, I think a lot of these younger celeb deaths are due to being in that world, the lifestyle and all that comes with it, I suspect he may well have lived to a normal age if he was just an accountant or mechanic, but he has had issues over the years so though this was a surprise, perhaps not as much as it could be, he fell out of a moving car a while back, dont know how anyone in their right mind could do that, he crashed into a photo shop, he had Pneumonia plus other incidents, most folk dont generally have that many of those type of incidents in their lives.
Also, as has been mentioned, there are indeed more famous people, who are getting old, Zsa Zsa Gabor had been a creaking gate since I was a teenager, Lemmy did well to make it to seventy, my grandma is trucking on at 91 but then she has never drunk a whole bottle of Jack Daniels in a day and to my knowledge doesnt use Amphetamines.
I wish people would stop going on about 2016 being the problem and thinking that when 2017 starts it will be any different, it makes no odds.
J4CKO said:
I think it is just a small part of your childhood and past has gone
Thats's how I see it too tbh. I can't say I was a huge fan of his music in that I've never bought an album of his or gone out of my way to listen to his music but when I switched on Sky and they were playing the old stuff it's odd how it took me back.It's a shame how the thread's gone but all too predictable, there are some bitter people on here.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:J4CKO said:
I think it is just a small part of your childhood and past has gone
Thats's how I see it too tbh. I can't say I was a huge fan of his music in that I've never bought an album of his or gone out of my way to listen to his music but when I switched on Sky and they were playing the old stuff it's odd how it took me back.It's a shame how the thread's gone but all too predictable, there are some bitter people on here.
People die all the time, some I'm more bothered about than others. Coming on to the internet to deliberately complain about others being upset or to tell people you don't care is a bit odd though.
The lack of empathy displayed by the same posters time and time again is now normal on here. They even complain about people criticising them for doing it on every thread when someone dies. You'd think they might realise there might be something a bit wrong with the way they are wired and stfu but that would take the self awareness they're missing.
There are a great many reports and studies about the decreasing empathy in young people. It's certainly obvious on here. Why on earth would you come in a thread dedicated to someone dying just to tell everyone you don't care and complain about others being upset?
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 26th December 09:11
El stovey said:
There are a great many reports and studies about the decreasing empathy in young people. It's certainly obvious on here. Why on earth would you come in a thread dedicated to someone dying just to tell everyone you don't care and complain about others being upset?
It may be lack of empathy, but I think it's just good old fashioned bitterness.Most people, if they are honest, would like to have been very talented in a field that would have made them rich and famous, and admired by millions, but they're not. Most of those people, and I'm one of them, just get on with their own humdrum lives and have no ill will to those who are living the dream. But you get a few saddos who can't cope with their own mediocrity, and express this by taking pleasure in the misfortune and demise of those of whom they are insanely jealous.
It's actually quite sad.
That's just my take on it.
El stovey said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:J4CKO said:
I think it is just a small part of your childhood and past has gone
Thats's how I see it too tbh. I can't say I was a huge fan of his music in that I've never bought an album of his or gone out of my way to listen to his music but when I switched on Sky and they were playing the old stuff it's odd how it took me back.It's a shame how the thread's gone but all too predictable, there are some bitter people on here.
People die all the time, some I'm more bothered about than others. Coming on to the internet to deliberately complain about others being upset or to tell people you don't care is a bit odd though.
The lack of empathy displayed by the same posters time and time again is now normal on here. They even complain about people criticising them for doing it on every thread when someone dies. You'd think they might realise there might be something a bit wrong with the way they are wired and stfu but that would take the self awareness they're missing.
There are a great many reports and studies about the decreasing empathy in young people. It's certainly obvious on here. Why on earth would you come in a thread dedicated to someone dying just to tell everyone you don't care and complain about others being upset?
Edited by El stovey on Monday 26th December 09:11
t stirrers who presumably ( as pointed out by another post) have done nothing of any note in their life. When they kick it, nobody will notice.agh bks
Really gutted TBH, i rather liked GM
Losing Bowie, Prince & George Michael all in one year is pretty ste tbh.
There's some really childish disrespectful posts on this thread which really we could all do without i feel.
Interesting that the people on here that had actually met him have all said what a nice fellow he was.
ksReally gutted TBH, i rather liked GM
Losing Bowie, Prince & George Michael all in one year is pretty s
te tbh.There's some really childish disrespectful posts on this thread which really we could all do without i feel.
Interesting that the people on here that had actually met him have all said what a nice fellow he was.
El stovey said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:J4CKO said:
I think it is just a small part of your childhood and past has gone
Thats's how I see it too tbh. I can't say I was a huge fan of his music in that I've never bought an album of his or gone out of my way to listen to his music but when I switched on Sky and they were playing the old stuff it's odd how it took me back.It's a shame how the thread's gone but all too predictable, there are some bitter people on here.
The lack of empathy displayed by the same posters time and time again is now normal on here. They even complain about people criticising them for doing it on every thread when someone dies. You'd think they might realise there might be something a bit wrong with the way they are wired and stfu but that would take the self awareness they're missing.
There are a great many reports and studies about the decreasing empathy in young people. It's certainly obvious on here. Why on earth would you come in a thread dedicated to someone dying just to tell everyone you don't care and complain about others being upset?
"Recreational grieving", it was called. Er, no, it's a thread about someone famous that died yesterday and many people that grew up with his music want to post about him. No one is crying, this isn't Lady Diana all over again, it's just that maybe a lot of people would like to share what GM meant to them via his music.
The most "impressive" post was the one where somebody claimed their superiority by saying they grieved about kids dying of cancer & the atrocities in Aleppo as well as the Russian plane crashing rather than a celebrity nobody really knew. "Ooh, look at me. The stuff I get sad about is far better than what YOU get sad about!". Bloody hell, I hadn't realised it was a competition!
Of course I'm sad about all of that but I have no connection to Aleppo / Russia as most of us haven't....So seeing as this is a GM tribute thread (or was until the infantile jokes and troubled posters started posting), my thoughts. Brilliant songwriter, an unbelievable voice and a back catalogue that anyone would be proud of. Five years older than me so clearly my generation.....remember sneaking into nightclubs at age 16 or 17 and dancing to the Wham stuff, trying to emulate them. Then, his rebirth into a solo career that saw him write and perform some absolute humdingers. Not sure what my favourite would be, maybe his solo version of "Freedom", which is impossible to listen to without your feet moving.
RIP George.
Look on the bright side. We're six pages in and no one has yet posted :
"Who?"
ETA: I was dragged to a GM concert at Wembley Arena in 1991. And was utterly blown away. One of the most memorable gigs I've been to. Total star quality and talent.
"Who?"
ETA: I was dragged to a GM concert at Wembley Arena in 1991. And was utterly blown away. One of the most memorable gigs I've been to. Total star quality and talent.
Edited by audidoody on Monday 26th December 09:19
El stovey said:
Coming on to the internet to deliberately complain about others being upset or to tell people you don't care is a bit odd though.
The lack of empathy displayed by the same posters time and time again is now normal on here.
People moaning about others being upset seems to be a bit of a thing on here. My first memory of PH about 10 or so years ago was a thread where people could do a survey on empathy. I was surprised that most of the posts were from people boasting about how low a score they got and how empathy was for losers. The lack of empathy displayed by the same posters time and time again is now normal on here.
Edited by El stovey on Monday 26th December 09:11
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