Man shot dead on M62 in pre-planned police operation
Discussion
Alpinestars said:
Digga said:
Alpinestars, with respect, I'm being to suspect you of trolling, of repeated attempts to draw responses with which you might attempt to get the thread closed (maybe you have already put in such a request, who knows) and so am no longer going to respond. The debate is circular.
Back onto the topic and the deceased's father has commendably condemned the actions of some of the mobs protesting, which is perhaps why there are no further reports of such disturbances. That or the snow anyway.
You clearly don't want to address the points raised, which is myopic, but fine.Back onto the topic and the deceased's father has commendably condemned the actions of some of the mobs protesting, which is perhaps why there are no further reports of such disturbances. That or the snow anyway.
Mohammed Yaqub said:
I did not want any violence whatsoever, not in my son’s memory.
I am not a violent person and never will be. Any protests should be peaceful. There is nothing to be gained by violence. Sometimes things get out of hand.
I am not a violent person and never will be. Any protests should be peaceful. There is nothing to be gained by violence. Sometimes things get out of hand.
I have not initiated anything on this thread, only responded to posts.
I also have a huge aversion to gangstas who carry guns and deal drugs, so no interest at all in closing the thread.
The perceived problem is that the authorities are nervous about tackling crimes within these areas for fear of being branded racist.
Also a few blinkered individuals who refuse to acknowledge that there is a similar level of crime within these communities to all other areas which really needs tackling.
stitched said:
I don't think you are on the right track mate, It doesn't seem to me on re reading the last couple of pages that anyone has suggested Asians, Muslims, Pakistanis or Chinese are more likely to commit crimes, nor do I see the suggestion that these groups are more likely to hide crimes within their communities.
The perceived problem is that the authorities are nervous about tackling crimes within these areas for fear of being branded racist.
Also a few blinkered individuals who refuse to acknowledge that there is a similar level of crime within these communities to all other areas which really needs tackling.
There are some cultures where crime is a part of life so it's covered up, ignored or even promoted. What about them? Sometimes it's in a group, an area, or an origin. It's mostly prevalent round here with the non permanent nomadic types where they grow up being taught how to do it, it's that ingrained. The perceived problem is that the authorities are nervous about tackling crimes within these areas for fear of being branded racist.
Also a few blinkered individuals who refuse to acknowledge that there is a similar level of crime within these communities to all other areas which really needs tackling.
I think it's way off the mark to say all communities have the same level of crime.
V6Pushfit said:
stitched said:
I don't think you are on the right track mate, It doesn't seem to me on re reading the last couple of pages that anyone has suggested Asians, Muslims, Pakistanis or Chinese are more likely to commit crimes, nor do I see the suggestion that these groups are more likely to hide crimes within their communities.
The perceived problem is that the authorities are nervous about tackling crimes within these areas for fear of being branded racist.
Also a few blinkered individuals who refuse to acknowledge that there is a similar level of crime within these communities to all other areas which really needs tackling.
There are some cultures where crime is a part of life so it's covered up, ignored or even promoted. What about them? Sometimes it's in a group, an area, or an origin. It's mostly prevalent round here with the non permanent nomadic types where they grow up being taught how to do it, it's that ingrained. The perceived problem is that the authorities are nervous about tackling crimes within these areas for fear of being branded racist.
Also a few blinkered individuals who refuse to acknowledge that there is a similar level of crime within these communities to all other areas which really needs tackling.
I think it's way off the mark to say all communities have the same level of crime.
The point I was trying to make is that society has made it more difficult for the Police to investigate crimes committed by any 'minority' lest they be branded '*ist' and this causes crime to go unpunished.
stitched said:
Fair point,
The point I was trying to make is that society has made it more difficult for the Police to investigate crimes committed by any 'minority' lest they be branded '*ist' and this causes crime to go unpunished.
Absolutely, and it also applies to the law abiding majority who have to walk on broken glass for fear of someone finding something to be offended about. The point I was trying to make is that society has made it more difficult for the Police to investigate crimes committed by any 'minority' lest they be branded '*ist' and this causes crime to go unpunished.
V6Pushfit said:
stitched said:
Fair point,
The point I was trying to make is that society has made it more difficult for the Police to investigate crimes committed by any 'minority' lest they be branded '*ist' and this causes crime to go unpunished.
Absolutely, and it also applies to the law abiding majority who have to walk on broken glass for fear of someone finding something to be offended about. The point I was trying to make is that society has made it more difficult for the Police to investigate crimes committed by any 'minority' lest they be branded '*ist' and this causes crime to go unpunished.
stuttgartmetal said:
Is this still dribbling on?
IMO this gang weren't that hard to crack by plod,were they?
shot one dead, which will be judged to be within their rules 100%
The idiot was waving a shooter
The rest have 5hat emselves
Job jobbed.
I think anyone with two brain cells to knock together see's it the the same way. You really have to be one of "them" to see it any different. IMO this gang weren't that hard to crack by plod,were they?
shot one dead, which will be judged to be within their rules 100%
The idiot was waving a shooter
The rest have 5hat emselves
Job jobbed.
mickytruelove said:
stuttgartmetal said:
Is this still dribbling on?
IMO this gang weren't that hard to crack by plod,were they?
shot one dead, which will be judged to be within their rules 100%
The idiot was waving a shooter
The rest have 5hat emselves
Job jobbed.
I think anyone with two brain cells to knock together see's it the the same way. You really have to be one of "them" to see it any different. IMO this gang weren't that hard to crack by plod,were they?
shot one dead, which will be judged to be within their rules 100%
The idiot was waving a shooter
The rest have 5hat emselves
Job jobbed.
Err no you dunces. They found it straight away it took 24hrs (much less than) to announce it.
Seems like the police aren't all angels up there
Bradford police inspector charged with stealing drugs seized by West Yorkshire force http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1413920...
As for the people on here talking about a small handful of the community protesting etc... do you forget what happened when mark duggan was shot? If so many of the community were supporting him, then only a handful turn up to protest what does that say...pretty obvious that the majority of the Asian community in Bradford had no love for the deceased scrote.
As for duggan shooting there were whole scale riots as we know. Certain communities have more of a tendency to cause trouble and riot and you don't have to be a genius to work out which.. and it isn't the Asian one
Bradford police inspector charged with stealing drugs seized by West Yorkshire force http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1413920...
As for the people on here talking about a small handful of the community protesting etc... do you forget what happened when mark duggan was shot? If so many of the community were supporting him, then only a handful turn up to protest what does that say...pretty obvious that the majority of the Asian community in Bradford had no love for the deceased scrote.
As for duggan shooting there were whole scale riots as we know. Certain communities have more of a tendency to cause trouble and riot and you don't have to be a genius to work out which.. and it isn't the Asian one
Digga said:
SystemParanoia said:
pops666tt said:
Certain communities have more of a tendency to cause trouble and riot and you don't have to be a genius to work out which.. and it isn't the Asian one
Which community is that one then ?Can't you remember the pixie riots of 77'
Gary C said:
Digga said:
SystemParanoia said:
pops666tt said:
Certain communities have more of a tendency to cause trouble and riot and you don't have to be a genius to work out which.. and it isn't the Asian one
Which community is that one then ?Can't you remember the pixie riots of 77'
I remember the laughing gnomes though. Good grief!
Digga said:
SystemParanoia said:
pops666tt said:
Certain communities have more of a tendency to cause trouble and riot and you don't have to be a genius to work out which.. and it isn't the Asian one
Which community is that one then ?Gary C said:
Digga said:
SystemParanoia said:
pops666tt said:
Certain communities have more of a tendency to cause trouble and riot and you don't have to be a genius to work out which.. and it isn't the Asian one
Which community is that one then ?Can't you remember the pixie riots of 77'
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