Who will win Stoke-on-Trent Central by-election, 2017

[brenflys777]

B'stard Child said:

What are the Conservative and Unionist Party odds?

Bit late for a bet but with all the UKIP bad press and Labour under Corbyn being useless I fancy the Government to sneak one in

The Conservatives and the 25 year old Tory boy were 14/1 before the PMs visit this week, I don't normally bet but a similar feeling just before the American election got me £50 on Trump... I have a feeling you may be right here.

[MiniMan64]

Noises that Labour have held it?

[FN2TypeR]

MiniMan64 said:

Noises that Labour have held it?

That's the word on the street, but apparently the turn out is appalling - 30% or so, so it's not in the bag yet, even if it is the most likely outcome.

[BlackLabel]

I feel for Nuttall tonight. Bet he's not been this nervous about a result since he lined up that drop goal in the 2003 Rugby World Cup final.

[dandarez]

jjlynn27 said:

So, when are we expecting to know more?

I'm actually hoping Nuttall will win, as if he doesn't I'm afraid UKIP will just fade away.

How far back was it you said they were 'history'?

Here's my take. Just been speaking to a guy in Stoke who bought some parts from me on Monday. He messaged me earlier this eve to say they'd arrived. I messaged back about good old Royal Mail and said bet it's busy with the by-election on today.
Didn't expect this: he said none of his family were bothering to vote (I obviously didn't give any allegiance away) because Labour will win.
I said you sound confident. He then said 'the postal votes will do it'.
Postal votes? He said the Uni (he works there) has seen masses of pressure on students to vote and other areas he'd seen really pushing postal. Could be 6000 postal votes! 6k postal?

If that is true, then I can see clearly LABOUR HOLD!

[don'tbesilly]

BlackLabel said:

I feel for Nuttall tonight. Bet he's not been this nervous about a result since he lined up that drop goal in the 2003 Rugby World Cup final.

It was 2004, Nuttall was a sub in 2003.

[Zod]

BlackLabel said:

I feel for Nuttall tonight. Bet he's not been this nervous about a result since he lined up that drop goal in the 2003 Rugby World Cup final.

You had me for about a second there!

[Halb]

BlackLabel said:

I feel for Nuttall tonight. Bet he's not been this nervous about a result since he lined up that drop goal in the 2003 Rugby World Cup final.

[Jonesy23]

So apparently the rule of being able to pin the right colour rosette on a turd and have it win still applies.

Decades of electing Labour there and they still haven't twigged that it hasn't helped them out at all.

On the bright side it keeps Corbyn in place killing the party from within.

[Cold]

Not a massive turnout, possibly due to Storm Doris doing her thing. Possibly other reasons too.

[powerstroke]

Good!! Corbyn will stay a bit longer , Think UKIP trying to woo labour voters is madness , they vote labour because they vote labour !!!

Edited by powerstroke on Friday 24th February 06:24

[FN2TypeR]

powerstroke said:

Good!! Corbyn will stay a bit longer , Think UKIP trying to woo labour voters is madness , they vote labour because they vote labour !!!

Edited by powerstroke on Friday 24th February 06:24

Apart from in Copeland

[anonymous-user]

i'm glad the PH poll was so wrong. Another nail in UKIPs coffin

[powerstroke]

Jimboka said:

i'm glad the PH poll was so wrong. Another nail in UKIPs coffin

Me too another nail in Labours coffin , as long as the tories give us a clear Brexit it's good
news.

[MarshPhantom]

FN2TypeR said:

powerstroke said:

Good!! Corbyn will stay a bit longer , Think UKIP trying to woo labour voters is madness , they vote labour because they vote labour !!!

Edited by powerstroke on Friday 24th February 06:24

Apart from in Copeland

As much to do with Sellafield and Corbyn's anti-nuclear stance I'd have thought.

[V8covin]

Jonesy23 said:

So apparently the rule of being able to pin the right colour rosette on a turd and have it win still applies.

Decades of electing Labour there and they still haven't twigged that it hasn't helped them out at all.

On the bright side it keeps Corbyn in place killing the party from within.

I know a lot of lifetime Labour voters who support Ukip policies, but whether they have actually changed to voting Ukip is another matter

[Kermit power]

When even UKIP's national leader can't win in one of the most pro-Brexit constituencies in the country against the most incompetent Labour party we've ever seen, surely even the most ardent Brexiteer has to now agree that they were a useful bunch of tools to trigger the referendum, but are now completely and utterly irrelevant?

So long as May actually does deliver Brexit, can anyone really honestly say they'd vote for Paul Nutall to become Prime Minister? He'd make Donald Trump look like the sensible, conservative choice to lead a country!

[PositronicRay]

Kermit power said:

When even UKIP's national leader can't win in one of the most pro-Brexit constituencies in the country against the most incompetent Labour party we've ever seen, surely even the most ardent Brexiteer has to now agree that they were a useful bunch of tools to trigger the referendum, but are now completely and utterly irrelevant?

So long as May actually does deliver Brexit, can anyone really honestly say they'd vote for Paul Nutall to become Prime Minister? He'd make Donald Trump look like the sensible, conservative choice to lead a country!

I'm not sure they've ever won a seat, not even Nigel F.

[Kermit power]

PositronicRay said:

Kermit power said:

When even UKIP's national leader can't win in one of the most pro-Brexit constituencies in the country against the most incompetent Labour party we've ever seen, surely even the most ardent Brexiteer has to now agree that they were a useful bunch of tools to trigger the referendum, but are now completely and utterly irrelevant?

So long as May actually does deliver Brexit, can anyone really honestly say they'd vote for Paul Nutall to become Prime Minister? He'd make Donald Trump look like the sensible, conservative choice to lead a country!

I'm not sure they've ever won a seat, not even Nigel F.

Well they did manage to retain one of the seats one of their Tory defectors bought with him, but that has definitely been the high watermark of their election performances.

The fact that they dropped to 4th behind the Lib Dems in Copeland as well as the woeful performance in Stoke surely suggests that nobody sees a point to them any more?

[jjlynn27]

Pity.

You have a Labour moron, who by all accounts shouldn't be allowed outside without a muzzle, and UKIP leader can't win against him?

I really hope he means it when he says that he's gonna stay. It could be almost as entertaining as Trumpster.