Who will win Stoke-on-Trent Central by-election, 2017

[eharding]

JawKnee said:

Stickyfinger said:

Stickyfinger said:

JawKnee said:

alfie2244 said:

JawKnee said:

Labour win.

UKIP running out of reasons to exist and the Tories doing their best to murder the NHS. Dem Libs are still a bit too "meh".

Win for Labour.

Yet apparently Tories are trusted with the NHS more than Labour... you really are a fool...still back to school in the morning for some.

You're a fool if you trust the Tories with the NHS.

Visited my GP last June. After 2 hospital specialist cancellations due to staff shortages I'm still waiting and not getting any better. April if I'm lucky.

You know the NHS cannot cure the terminally STUPID don't you \?

There is a place in Switzerland that can help if it all gets to much.....PM me if you need their number as I have help a few Remainers out recently.

Edited by Stickyfinger on Sunday 15th January 23:36

We're going have to start funding education for teaching people how to edit their own messages without reposting the whole bloody thing aren't we?

Stickyfinger does seem to be rather special, doesn't he?

[IanH755]

As a born & bred Stokey who moved away but still visits 3-4 times a year it's amazing to see the difference in Stoke since the mid 90's when it was a 90% labour voting city. It's become one the "multicultural" catchment areas with the pre-existing Asian community being massively increased along with the new communities of Eastern Europeans and other "war-torn" immigrants.

So while the general feel of the city is UKIP (slightly BNP in some areas), which is how I voted in the poll above, the increased number of migrants will probably increase the Labour vote slightly so it's difficult to call.

Also remember that the vast majority of the people who have lived there since birth are now slowly being outnumbered by those who have been enticed by Stokes rejuvenation as the Council try to bring in new "blood" by creating a catchment area for people working in Manchester/Birmingham so the place has had millions spent on it. Council estates are still dog poop rough though with Abbey "Scabby" Hulton and Bentilee (my home) needing nuking from orbit to cure it's social issues

[Stickyfinger]

JawKnee said:

We're going have to start funding education for teaching people how to edit their own messages without reposting the whole bloody thing aren't we? But as you say, the terminally stupid are a lost cause.

Edited by JawKnee on Sunday 15th January 23:59

Bong

[VolvoT5]

It will be interesting to see if UKIP have the balls to put up Paul Nuttall or Farage as their candidate as I suspect doing that would give them enough media coverage to be in with a serious shout. If they put forward some loony local counsellor then I can't see it happening.

I can't see the Lib Dems going well in such a Brexity seat... and does anyone else think Tim Farron comes across just as weird as Ed Miliband and barely more competent than Corbyn? I mean I can't envisage him managing a major role in government like Nick Clegg did.

My instinct is Labour will just about hang on.

[MarshPhantom]

I have to say I hope Labour lose and Corbyn goes because that, rather than hanging on to see how polls are doing 6 months before the next elecion.

They need someone now.

[Esseesse]

MarshPhantom said:

I have to say I hope Labour lose and Corbyn goes because that, rather than hanging on to see how polls are doing 6 months before the next elecion.

They need someone now.

I kinda hope Labour win because in the medium term I'd like to see at least one of the top two parties replaced.

[FN2TypeR]

MarshPhantom said:

I have to say I hope Labour lose and Corbyn goes because that, rather than hanging on to see how polls are doing 6 months before the next elecion.

They need someone now.

Who, though?

[MarshPhantom]

I quite like Tom Watson.

[Esseesse]

FN2TypeR said:

MarshPhantom said:

I have to say I hope Labour lose and Corbyn goes because that, rather than hanging on to see how polls are doing 6 months before the next elecion.

They need someone now.

Who, though?

I'm not sure Labour stand to do any better with a Blairite leader now. The Tory party are better at being New Labour than Labour are, and have more money behind them. I doubt a Blairite leader would manage to pull the wool back over the eyes of northern voters, I think they disliked Blair back in the day (perceived as a Tory) but most held their breath.

[Biker 1]

MarshPhantom said:

I quite like Tom Watson.

The hypocritical, back stabbing, no-good sack of droppings!!!

[powerstroke]

Biker 1 said:

MarshPhantom said:

I quite like Tom Watson.

The hypocritical, back stabbing, no-good sack of droppings!!!

Fit right in with the New labour lot mandy bliar etc , Seriouly the last thing this country needs is any manifestation
of Labour or the liberal demotts...

[SKP555]

Labour probably will win it but Corbyn or not they still face the same problem. They've lost old Labour voters in the north and New Labour voters in the south and anything they do to attract one lot will repel the other lot.

Blair quite skillfully built that coalition but like everything Blair it was always doomed to turn to crap after a while, and Blair himself was well clear by the time it did.

[FN2TypeR]

Esseesse said:

FN2TypeR said:

MarshPhantom said:

I have to say I hope Labour lose and Corbyn goes because that, rather than hanging on to see how polls are doing 6 months before the next elecion.

They need someone now.

Who, though?

I'm not sure Labour stand to do any better with a Blairite leader now. The Tory party are better at being New Labour than Labour are, and have more money behind them. I doubt a Blairite leader would manage to pull the wool back over the eyes of northern voters, I think they disliked Blair back in the day (perceived as a Tory) but most held their breath.

Inclined to agree with you. At least with Jezza in charge the Labour Party has diverged from the Tories somewhat, or will, over time, giving the electorate a greater choice at the polls, in so far as the bigger parties are concerned anyway.

He's still pants though, but then again May is too - Farron, Nuttal and that Sturgeon bh too, all no hopers.

[andymadmak]

JawKnee said:

Labour win.

I agree.

JawKnee said:

UKIP running out of reasons to exist

I agree

JawKnee said:

and the Tories doing their best to murder the NHS.

Not really, and from that survey posted earlier it would appear that more voters are worried about Labour running the NHS rather than the Tories. Then again this is Stoke we are talking about...

JawKnee said:

Dem Libs are still a bit too "meh".

if "meh" = irrelevant then I agree (especially in Stoke)

JawKnee said:

Win for Labour.

Yes, and I think it might be a rather better result than some would imagine. I think the majority will fall, but it will still be in 4 digits.

[MarshPhantom]

Biker 1 said:

MarshPhantom said:

I quite like Tom Watson.

The hypocritical, back stabbing, no-good sack of droppings!!!

Could you not say that about most politicians?

[MarshPhantom]

FN2TypeR said:

Esseesse said:

FN2TypeR said:

MarshPhantom said:

I have to say I hope Labour lose and Corbyn goes because that, rather than hanging on to see how polls are doing 6 months before the next elecion.

They need someone now.

Who, though?

I'm not sure Labour stand to do any better with a Blairite leader now. The Tory party are better at being New Labour than Labour are, and have more money behind them. I doubt a Blairite leader would manage to pull the wool back over the eyes of northern voters, I think they disliked Blair back in the day (perceived as a Tory) but most held their breath.

Inclined to agree with you. At least with Jezza in charge the Labour Party has diverged from the Tories somewhat, or will, over time, giving the electorate a greater choice at the polls, in so far as the bigger parties are concerned anyway.

He's still pants though, but then again May is too - Farron, Nuttal and that Sturgeon bh too, all no hopers.

Exactly, May is hardly setting the world on fire.

[powerstroke]

MarshPhantom said:

Exactly, May is hardly setting the world on fire.

You say that like it's a bad thing , Blair helped set the middle east on fire that was good was it ???

[FN2TypeR]

powerstroke said:

MarshPhantom said:

Exactly, May is hardly setting the world on fire.

You say that like it's a bad thing , Blair helped set the middle east on fire that was good was it ???

May hasn't been in power long, give it time, we'll find somebody else to bomb.

[B'stard Child]

FN2TypeR said:

powerstroke said:

MarshPhantom said:

Exactly, May is hardly setting the world on fire.

You say that like it's a bad thing , Blair helped set the middle east on fire that was good was it ???

May hasn't been in power long, give it time, we'll find somebody else to bomb.

Oh cock... On that basis my reason to leave 52 is quashed

Give the government something to do that keeps them busy and stops them meddling in the affairs of other countries - not much good comes from that.

[Yipper]

UKIP, following today's candidate announcement, now accounting for over 50% of all bets placed on Stoke. Points to a clear UKIP win.