Dambusters film

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Adrian W

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13,857 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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It's on channel four, I'm in total disbelief they put out a warning before the film about the language, meaning the dogs name , political correctness gone mad, it's was made in 1955

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,240 posts

235 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Last time it was on TV they blanked the word out.

TonyToniTone

3,424 posts

249 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Is it PC gone mad? was a put down, even back in the 40's.

motco

15,938 posts

246 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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TonyToniTone said:
Is it PC gone mad? was a put down, even back in the 40's.
Not as such. My Mum used 'N' brown Sylko sewing thread! Any word can be an insult in the relevant context and that one is obviously no exception.



SAB888

3,237 posts

207 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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I saw it on tv about a week or so ago and there was no censorship thankfully. I've seen that film more times than any other. Wonder if the remake will ever happen.

Wacky Racer

38,136 posts

247 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Well I've still got my collection of Robertson's Golly*** badges from the 1950's.

smile





Michael Redgrave(Barnes Wallis):-

"Perhaps if you tell them I designed it...do you think that might help?"

lol!

My all time favourite cinema quote.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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TonyToniTone said:
Is it PC gone mad? was a put down, even back in the 40's.
No it wasn't, and it was certainly a common name for dogs, I read somewhere that the dog in the film had the same name. Gibson certainly didn't name his dog in order to be racially offensive.

motco

15,938 posts

246 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Wacky Racer said:
Well I've still got my collection of Robertson's Golly*** badges from the 1950's.

smile





Michael Redgrave(Barnes Wallis):-

"Perhaps if you tell them I designed it...do you think that might help?"

lol!

My all time favourite cinema quote.
The last (three letter) syllable from the Robertson's doll name was and is an insulting term, or derogatory at best. Unless you lived in that time, it is very hard to understand just how brainwashed we now are. The trouble is that removing a word still leaves the sentiment in those who want to offend. Spastic, for example, is a perfectly normal medical term, but because it was hijacked it is now unacceptable. Shall they ban 'special' just because it is used to refer insultingly to educationally subnormal children? It is like trying to retain water in a colander with your fingers - there will always be malice.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,240 posts

235 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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I guess the truth is the majority wouldn't want to hear that derogatory term used in the 21st century.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Normally Capt Pendantic pops up to say that it would be nice if the film could be referenced without the word being mentioned

Adrian W

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13,857 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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It won't be long before something Nelson or Napolion or any historical figure used won't be allowed , the past is the past we can only change the future, itf they didn't mention it chances are Nonone would even notice.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Don't see the problem.

They warned, for those who would be offended.

The film has gone out unedited for all your benefit.

Everyone wins

(There is a certain irony in being offended by a warning of offensive language though)



Edited by Vocal Minority on Sunday 15th January 19:03

FourWheelDrift

88,473 posts

284 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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I don't think it's so much C4 warning viewers about the language used in general but more trying to prevent dimwitted professional handwringers from complaining to Ofcom or directly to C4 as they can say they warned them beforehand.

Adrian W

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13,857 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Vocal Minority said:
Don't see the problem.

They warned, for those who would be offended.

The film has gone out unedited for all your benefit.

Everyone wins

(There is a certain irony in being offended by a warning of offensive language though)



Edited by Vocal Minority on Sunday 15th January 19:03
No! The offence is at the pettiness of it, it's not ironic

TonyToniTone

3,424 posts

249 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
No it wasn't, and it was certainly a common name for dogs, I read somewhere that the dog in the film had the same name. Gibson certainly didn't name his dog in order to be racially offensive.
I doubt Gibson named his dog to cause offence but it certainly was a racist term back then, just because it was acceptable does not stop it being so.

It is a historical reference but some people will take offence.

TonyToniTone

3,424 posts

249 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Vocal Minority said:
Don't see the problem.

They warned, for those who would be offended.

The film has gone out unedited for all your benefit.

Everyone wins
Exactly.

AMG Merc

11,954 posts

253 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Watching it now - excellent. Didn't see the warning at the start but glad ITV4 hasn't blanked said ocurrences. In case you don't want to know yet... Sadly, the canine in question has just gone to the big kennels frown

I was thinking earlier if we faced the same threat now how many people with backbones would rise from their state supplied lives and do the right thing for the country that has supported them scratchchin

Sadly, in the same situation, I fear we'd allbe fluent German speakers.

Edited by AMG Merc on Sunday 15th January 19:32

FourWheelDrift

88,473 posts

284 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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AMG Merc said:
I was thinking earlier if we faced the same threat now how many people with backbones would rise from their state supplied lives and do the right thing for the country that has supported them scratchchin

Sadly, in the same situation, I fear we'd allbe fluent German speakers.
Depends if we reintroduced compulsory conscription or not.

AMG Merc

11,954 posts

253 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Wouldn't work would it? They'd just pull up their hoodies and say no mate, send me to a jail instead.

Sorry to sound grumpy just doing me taxes and seen me contribution - not happy!

Smollet

10,520 posts

190 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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motco said:
The last (three letter) syllable from the Robertson's doll name was and is an insulting term, or derogatory at best. Unless you lived in that time, it is very hard to understand just how brainwashed we now are. The trouble is that removing a word still leaves the sentiment in those who want to offend. Spastic, for example, is a perfectly normal medical term, but because it was hijacked it is now unacceptable. Shall they ban 'special' just because it is used to refer insultingly to educationally subnormal children? It is like trying to retain water in a colander with your fingers - there will always be malice.
The DVLA don't find it a problem going by this number plate.