Get rid of Theresa Mayhem
Discussion
SKP555 said:
I think it's pretty clear that the idea of remaining in the single market is over. At a rough guess they've looked at it and decided that getting all 27 remaining member states and EU itself to agree to a market in goods and services without freedom of movement just wasn't going to happen. The Brexit negotiation is now basically just a trade agreement.
Agreed. The EU has the same voting system as the Eurovision Song Contest and a little bit of collusion means we're scuppered.Theresa said in her speach that she'd like to guarantee all EU nationals in the UK, pre Brexit, can stay provided the other 27 reciprocate. Most of the 27 had agreed but a couple were holding back. I believe her and it's so typical of the gridlock in the EU that nothing sensible can be achieved.
I agreed with all of her speach aside from her hoping the EU succeeds without us. I hope it crashes and rots.
Sparkyhd said:
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I agreed with all of her speech aside from her hoping the EU succeeds without us. I hope it crashes and rots.
That's fairly inevitable anyway given the difficulty in ever getting agreement from 27 very different governments. No doubt the Greek economy will be back to haunt them before too long - or will the migrant issues/Turkey have to take priority ?I agreed with all of her speech aside from her hoping the EU succeeds without us. I hope it crashes and rots.
Anyway, off-topic and best debated on another thread.
joebongo said:
I won't dare to talk about my sons opportunities in Europe going down the toilet.
What is this rubbish about opportunities?Do people not have a clue about how the world works? If you are suitable and follow the procedure, you may be able to study or work in a different country. That procedure may include granting of work permits, student visas, registration with the police, a probation period, being unable to bring your dependents over, not having access to public funds and so on.
Nothing is changing on that front.
Edited by immigrant on Wednesday 18th January 09:42
immigrant said:
joebongo said:
We are going to end up paying a lot more for our car stuff thanks to this woman's wilful misinterpretation of the referendum.
What is this rubbish about opportunities?Do people not have a clue about how the world works? If you are suitable and follow the procedure, you may be able to study or work in a different country. That procedure may include granting of work permits, student visas, registration with the police, a probation period, being unable to bring your dependents over, not having access to public funds and so on.
Nothing is changing on that front.
Very sad that young people preferred to play COD rather than vote in a referendum because that was like "dull"
Is the main fear spreading due to the thinking that 'free access to the single market' is being dubbed 'access to the single market', which then leaves people thinking that the UK would not be able to trade with the EU ?
Then there is the fear that the UK will not be able to reach a deal that could achieve a reduced tariff trade environment.
The EU's response to May's speech was that of course they are not going to offer any deal that will negatively affect it members.
Having trade barriers and unnecessary fees for trade will indeed negatively affect its members, so there will be some middle ground that will be reached.
At no point should there be the fear that the UK will no longer be trading with the EU and we'll suddenly lose 40% of our export market.
agreed?
Then there is the fear that the UK will not be able to reach a deal that could achieve a reduced tariff trade environment.
The EU's response to May's speech was that of course they are not going to offer any deal that will negatively affect it members.
Having trade barriers and unnecessary fees for trade will indeed negatively affect its members, so there will be some middle ground that will be reached.
At no point should there be the fear that the UK will no longer be trading with the EU and we'll suddenly lose 40% of our export market.
agreed?
wc98 said:
davepoth said:
Iranian food is fantastic, mixing the spice of the Indian subcontinent with the fragrance and flavour of the middle east; I'd heartily recommend it.
as this appears to be an off topic thread i would just like to add the fresh stone baked bread to the iranian food worth trying list. i can still remember the taste now. a definite business opportunity in the uk for someone if ever there was one. my grandmother used to take me to the street vendor that sold it where we stayed in tehran every saturday morning. best eaten still hot and smothered in butter ,lovely.heebeegeetee said:
joebongo said:
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-mayhem-mus...
I like this so thought I'd share with the loungers.
We are going to end up paying a lot more for our car stuff thanks to this woman's wilful misinterpretation of the referendum.
I won't dare to talk about my sons opportunities in Europe going down the toilet.
Well, if your son did what most of the youngest generation of voters did, he stayed at home working on his erectile dysfunction rather than bothering to vote, then blamed the result on those who did vote.I like this so thought I'd share with the loungers.
We are going to end up paying a lot more for our car stuff thanks to this woman's wilful misinterpretation of the referendum.
I won't dare to talk about my sons opportunities in Europe going down the toilet.
If yours was one of the same I'd never let him forget it. Ever.
williamp said:
"I turned to one of the group and confessed my secret longing for the likes of Theresa May, Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin — ideally all at once."I can see where he's coming from, but in that one case in particular;
- I don't mind that she shoots living things, as long as it is not me;
- I don't mind that she has more money that I do;
- I do however prefer women, no matter how 'powerful', to have at least as much intellect as a pencil.
B'stard Child said:
But but but - right now no paperwork is required just up sticks and go where you like
Assume you're being facetious and emulating those emotive types like the original poster, but this is very, very, very rarely the case. Unless you're dossing in Naples and working off the books in a dive bar. Or 'volunteering' for some barely credible charity. That type of thing. When these people actually try to study or work somewhere in the EU by simply turning up and not being a 'war refugee' or asylum seeker, they might be somewhat shocked
immigrant said:
joebongo said:
I won't dare to talk about my sons opportunities in Europe going down the toilet.
What is this rubbish about opportunities?Do people not have a clue about how the world works?
Edited by immigrant on Wednesday 18th January 09:42
SKP555 said:
Greg66 said:
Ed. said:
I don't understood why someone who has been tasked with entering into some fairly important negotiations is expected to tell the public exactly what she is going to do before she does it. Kinda puts her on the back foot.
Additionally, assuming the single market is the big prize, the EU have to believe the UK is willing to walk away if a deal cannot be made.
Doesn't today's speech make pursuit of the single market very difficult politically? The howls of "sell out" and "traitor" would be off the scale. Additionally, assuming the single market is the big prize, the EU have to believe the UK is willing to walk away if a deal cannot be made.
Fair enough, but unlike some not going to cry and moan into the Special K, it dilutes the milk. Accepting the Govt decisions and moving on to do whatever is best for me, mine and the nation in general.
We'd have had a lot less acrimony and arseache if a few million others had followed this route.
Now to take it off topic, sort of, who do we reckon these four people are who are starting another court case to stop Brexit,but have got the court to agree they can be anonymous. Do we agree that they should be allowed to withhold their names?
FiF said:
Now to take it off topic, sort of, who do we reckon these four people are who are starting another court case to stop Brexit,but have got the court to agree they can be anonymous. Do we agree that they should be allowed to withhold their names?
I'd reckon on Blair for one, or at least somebody being backed by him. Plus of course, No , they should not be anonymous, the elctorate should be made aware of who is trying to overturn a democratic election. In short, who is treating said electorate and its wishes with contempt .immigrant said:
B'stard Child said:
But but but - right now no paperwork is required just up sticks and go where you like
Assume you're being facetious and emulating those emotive types like the original poster, but this is very, very, very rarely the case. Unless you're dossing in Naples and working off the books in a dive bar. Or 'volunteering' for some barely credible charity. That type of thing. When these people actually try to study or work somewhere in the EU by simply turning up and not being a 'war refugee' or asylum seeker, they might be somewhat shocked
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