Jewish men attack parking warden

Jewish men attack parking warden

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triggerh4ppy

402 posts

127 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Alpinestars said:
Other than clickbait, the religion of the men is surely irrelevant.
I was thinking the same thing...

I thought it was only important to know if their muslim or not..

Countdown

39,977 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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triggerh4ppy said:
Alpinestars said:
Other than clickbait, the religion of the men is surely irrelevant.
I was thinking the same thing...

I thought it was only important to know if their muslim or not..
They're probably jewish muslims innit....;)

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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As said, it's not unknown for people to get pretty cheesed off about the ticket, 'it's just one minute!!'.
What surprised me was LL's comments about telling the bloke to get on the floor. I doubt anyone would follow that 'request'.

pc.iow

1,879 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Countdown said:
triggerh4ppy said:
Alpinestars said:
Other than clickbait, the religion of the men is surely irrelevant.
I was thinking the same thing...

I thought it was only important to know if their muslim or not..
They're probably jewish muslims innit....;)
Or a Palestinian traffic warden?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
As said, it's not unknown for people to get pretty cheesed off about the ticket, 'it's just one minute!!'.
What surprised me was LL's comments about telling the bloke to get on the floor. I doubt anyone would follow that 'request'.
Short of them holding a gun to me the only people i would even consider getting on the floor for, if commanded to do so by them rather than to avoid flying debris sort of thing, without seriously questioning the situation and if i was prepared to obey would be a Police Officer or an a serving member of the armed forces in a situation where they had been empowered to have the right to make such a demand. Even in those situations i would seriously be considering the vulnerability of the situation i would be placing myself in and if i was willing to acquiesce.

As for those saying that the religion of the men surrounding and detaining the Parking Warden is not germane, i would suggest that the group that they belong to, and the well known attitude that that group holds towards laws and customs which are opposed to their view on the World, means that identifying them as such is warranted.

It is sometimes forgotten that it is not only radicalised Muslims who seem to think that they can impose their laws and customs upon us. There are other religious idiots who think the same about their views on law and life, and there are even some who have not religious conviction who would seek to impose their warped view of life on others.

Digga

40,354 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Rude-boy said:
jjlynn27 said:
As said, it's not unknown for people to get pretty cheesed off about the ticket, 'it's just one minute!!'.
What surprised me was LL's comments about telling the bloke to get on the floor. I doubt anyone would follow that 'request'.
Short of them holding a gun to me the only people i would even consider getting on the floor for, if commanded to do so by them rather than to avoid flying debris sort of thing, without seriously questioning the situation and if i was prepared to obey would be a Police Officer or an a serving member of the armed forces in a situation where they had been empowered to have the right to make such a demand. Even in those situations i would seriously be considering the vulnerability of the situation i would be placing myself in and if i was willing to acquiesce.

As for those saying that the religion of the men surrounding and detaining the Parking Warden is not germane, i would suggest that the group that they belong to, and the well known attitude that that group holds towards laws and customs which are opposed to their view on the World, means that identifying them as such is warranted.

It is sometimes forgotten that it is not only radicalised Muslims who seem to think that they can impose their laws and customs upon us. There are other religious idiots who think the same about their views on law and life, and there are even some who have not religious conviction who would seek to impose their warped view of life on others.
Well! That's a whole new can of worms opened!

As far as I'm concerned, I struggle to see any justification for the men manhandling the traffic warden. Moreover, the fact the local authority are planning to prosecute would suggest it was illegal.

baldy1926

2,136 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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That's just around the corner from where i live, Literally 1 street away.
Those flats were built by a Jewish charity and advertised as only for ultra orthodox from 1 small sect.
They were forced to take the advertising down but surprisingly it was only occupied by their 'target' audience.
It started with 1 block which had no parking so the residents just left their cars on the road on doubles and singles all day.
They then built another block which has parking but cars are still left on the road anyway.
Parking is a nightmere round there its on a bus route with a blind right hand corner.
Cars are double and tipple parked all day right on the corner as well.
There are industrial units there as well as a garage which trades and repairs on the road.
As soon as the parking warden turns up, which is not very often everyone piles out of the flats and surrounding business to intimidate the warden and delay him.
It would not be one or two people but 20 plus.
Just for a bit of back ground.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
What surprised me was LL's comments about telling the bloke to get on the floor. I doubt anyone would follow that 'request'.
My comment had nothing to do with whether someone would follow it or not.

My comment was in response to the OP who suggested that it was the group who had done the assault, not the other way around. My observations and comments were indications that supported that it may have been a lawful detention as opposed to an assault i.e. calmly telling someone to go on the ground isn't usually associated with a group assault.





Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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La Liga said:
jjlynn27 said:
What surprised me was LL's comments about telling the bloke to get on the floor. I doubt anyone would follow that 'request'.
My comment had nothing to do with whether someone would follow it or not.

My comment was in response to the OP who suggested that it was the group who had done the assault, not the other way around. My observations and comments were indications that supported that it may have been a lawful detention as opposed to an assault i.e. calmly telling someone to go on the ground isn't usually associated with a group assault.
Why the dickens would someone calmly tell a traffic warden to get on the ground?


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
Why the dickens would someone calmly tell a traffic warden to get on the ground?
Perhaps because they're detaining him prior to police arrival.



Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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If religious fundamentalists tell you to get on the ground, do you comply or do you use any means at your disposal to get the fk out of there?


In case in doubt as to the correct answer, look up what happened to Lee Rigby.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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La Liga said:
calmly telling someone to go on the ground isn't usually associated with a group assault.
How do we know it was done calmly though - none of the videos showing the build up have sound. Only the one after the warden has been dragged off his bike does.

The councilors comments where he talks of intimidation, threats and harassment based on the body cam footage seem to indicate it was anything but a calm situation before the warden attempted to leave.

Would you lie down on the ground in front of half a dozen men who had seconds earlier, threatened, harassed and intimidated you? Me personally - i'd try to get the fk out of there.

Edited by Moonhawk on Thursday 19th January 14:48

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Moonhawk said:
La Liga said:
calmly telling someone to go on the ground isn't usually associated with a group assault.
How do we know it was done calmly though - none of the videos showing the build up have sound. Only the one after the warden has been dragged off his bike does.
The clip where people are telling him to go on the ground seems calm by the tone and manner in which it's said. It suggests a lack of red-mist / too much adrenaline that would typically be present in a group assault as opposed to detaining someone for the police.

I was literally and simply providing an observation as to why the detention (at the time of my original post there were fewer videos in the article) may have been reasonable and the objective of the group as opposed to an attack.

It's no more complicated than that and I fail to see why people are so focused upon it.

Moonhawk said:
The councilors comments where he talks of intimidation, threats and harassment based on the body cam footage seem to indicate it was anything but a calm situation before the warden attempted to leave.
Maybe so. The warden may actually be the victim.

Moonhawk said:
Would you lie down on the ground in front of half a dozen men who had seconds earlier, threatened, harassed and intimidated you? Me personally - i'd try to get the fk out of there.
It's not relevant to the point I was making whatsoever.





gruffalo

7,529 posts

227 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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triggerh4ppy said:
Alpinestars said:
Other than clickbait, the religion of the men is surely irrelevant.
I was thinking the same thing...

I thought it was only important to know if their muslim or not..
I would have said that the religion reference is what identified them as a group.

I could also have been a bunch of Fulham FC fans had they been wearing Fulham FC shirts but in this case they could be identified as Jewish by their attire.


audidoody

8,597 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Rude-boy said:
As for those saying that the religion of the men surrounding and detaining the Parking Warden is not germane, i would suggest that the group that they belong to, and the well known attitude that that group holds towards laws and customs which are opposed to their view on the World, means that identifying them as such is warranted.

It is sometimes forgotten that it is not only radicalised Muslims who seem to think that they can impose their laws and customs upon us. There are other religious idiots who think the same about their views on law and life, and there are even some who have not religious conviction who would seek to impose their warped view of life on others.
When was the last time a Hassidic Jew knocked on your door asking if he could have a word about converting you? When was the last time a Jewish UK citizen blew himself up on a crowded London bus/train/? When was the last time a Hassidic Jew climbed on a soapbox outside a synagogue and demanded Jews kill non-Jews, or that the entire country should eat kosher food as one step on the road to seeing the Star of David flag hanging from Buckingham Palace? When was the last time a couple of Jews tried to behead an off-duty soldier for reasons best known to themselves? Etc etc.

Which is not to say that if you intended to set up a pop-up shop in parts of North London selling different varieties of bacon you would have difficulty attracting investors.


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Rude-boy said:
Short of them holding a gun to me the only people i would even consider getting on the floor for, if commanded to do so by them rather than to avoid flying debris sort of thing, without seriously questioning the situation and if i was prepared to obey would be a Police Officer or an a serving member of the armed forces in a situation where they had been empowered to have the right to make such a demand. Even in those situations i would seriously be considering the vulnerability of the situation i would be placing myself in and if i was willing to acquiesce.

As for those saying that the religion of the men surrounding and detaining the Parking Warden is not germane, i would suggest that the group that they belong to, and the well known attitude that that group holds towards laws and customs which are opposed to their view on the World, means that identifying them as such is warranted.

It is sometimes forgotten that it is not only radicalised Muslims who seem to think that they can impose their laws and customs upon us. There are other religious idiots who think the same about their views on law and life, and there are even some who have not religious conviction who would seek to impose their warped view of life on others.
You've logged into Pistonheads by mistake instead of Stormfront?

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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audidoody said:
Rude-boy said:
As for those saying that the religion of the men surrounding and detaining the Parking Warden is not germane, i would suggest that the group that they belong to, and the well known attitude that that group holds towards laws and customs which are opposed to their view on the World, means that identifying them as such is warranted.

It is sometimes forgotten that it is not only radicalised Muslims who seem to think that they can impose their laws and customs upon us. There are other religious idiots who think the same about their views on law and life, and there are even some who have not religious conviction who would seek to impose their warped view of life on others.
When was the last time a Hassidic Jew knocked on your door asking if he could have a word about converting you? When was the last time a Jewish UK citizen blew himself up on a crowded London bus/train/? When was the last time a Hassidic Jew climbed on a soapbox outside a synagogue and demanded Jews kill non-Jews, or that the entire country should eat kosher food as one step on the road to seeing the Star of David flag hanging from Buckingham Palace? When was the last time a couple of Jews tried to behead an off-duty soldier for reasons best known to themselves? Etc etc.

Which is not to say that if you intended to set up a pop-up shop in parts of North London selling different varieties of bacon you would have difficulty attracting investors.
So - in the event of this kind of confrontation - we are supposed to be able to identify which particular type of religious fundamentalists is attacking us, and what their previous modus operandi has been?

It is a big ask.




smileymikey

1,446 posts

227 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Even Isis are giving the Orthodox traffic warden slappers the thumbs up. Nothing like a traffic warden getting a righteous shoeing to unite the faiths. wink


This is of course entirely tongue in cheek.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Raygun said:
J
Rude-boy said:
Short of them holding a gun to me the only people i would even consider getting on the floor for, if commanded to do so by them rather than to avoid flying debris sort of thing, without seriously questioning the situation and if i was prepared to obey would be a Police Officer or an a serving member of the armed forces in a situation where they had been empowered to have the right to make such a demand. Even in those situations i would seriously be considering the vulnerability of the situation i would be placing myself in and if i was willing to acquiesce.

As for those saying that the religion of the men surrounding and detaining the Parking Warden is not germane, i would suggest that the group that they belong to, and the well known attitude that that group holds towards laws and customs which are opposed to their view on the World, means that identifying them as such is warranted.

It is sometimes forgotten that it is not only radicalised Muslims who seem to think that they can impose their laws and customs upon us. There are other religious idiots who think the same about their views on law and life, and there are even some who have not religious conviction who would seek to impose their warped view of life on others.
You've logged into Pistonheads by mistake instead of Stormfront?
Oh how funny you are you ignorant individual.

Just because I have an intense dislike religious fundamentalists of all types, as well as anyone else who seeks to try to prevent people from living their life in whatever manner they chose so long as it does not cause others actual harm, you think I am a white supremacist.

Your attempted slur is beneath contempt.

dandarez

13,294 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Raygun said:
J
Rude-boy said:
Short of them holding a gun to me the only people i would even consider getting on the floor for, if commanded to do so by them rather than to avoid flying debris sort of thing, without seriously questioning the situation and if i was prepared to obey would be a Police Officer or an a serving member of the armed forces in a situation where they had been empowered to have the right to make such a demand. Even in those situations i would seriously be considering the vulnerability of the situation i would be placing myself in and if i was willing to acquiesce.

As for those saying that the religion of the men surrounding and detaining the Parking Warden is not germane, i would suggest that the group that they belong to, and the well known attitude that that group holds towards laws and customs which are opposed to their view on the World, means that identifying them as such is warranted.

It is sometimes forgotten that it is not only radicalised Muslims who seem to think that they can impose their laws and customs upon us. There are other religious idiots who think the same about their views on law and life, and there are even some who have not religious conviction who would seek to impose their warped view of life on others.
You've logged into Pistonheads by mistake instead of Stormfront?
I'd say Rude-boy has logged into PHs for many, many years.

Unlike your five minutes?