New Fireblade US prices..
Discussion
https://powersports.honda.com/2017/cbr1000rr.aspx
Click on trim and select, and it will show the cost - US website.
Tentative MSRP $24,999 for SP2. So that's direct conversion of £20,312.84.
SP is Tentative MSRP $19,999. So thats £16,252.28.
ABS is TBC.
Standard is Tentative MSRP $16,999 so thats £13,815.90.
With Brexit, and pound instability they will tack on extra in the UK, and the dealer will add a little as well..
Should be interesting to see the actual announcement over the weekend and costs.
Click on trim and select, and it will show the cost - US website.
Tentative MSRP $24,999 for SP2. So that's direct conversion of £20,312.84.
SP is Tentative MSRP $19,999. So thats £16,252.28.
ABS is TBC.
Standard is Tentative MSRP $16,999 so thats £13,815.90.
With Brexit, and pound instability they will tack on extra in the UK, and the dealer will add a little as well..
Should be interesting to see the actual announcement over the weekend and costs.
Some Uk version news http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2017/january/ho...
Shows UK prices at Standard £15,225, and the SP at £19,125
No prices for the SP2, but they expect £21-22k
That's a lot of money for a Honda
Shows UK prices at Standard £15,225, and the SP at £19,125
No prices for the SP2, but they expect £21-22k
That's a lot of money for a Honda
BobSaunders said:
https://powersports.honda.com/2017/cbr1000rr.aspx
Click on trim and select, and it will show the cost - US website.
Tentative MSRP $24,999 for SP2. So that's direct conversion of £20,312.84.
SP is Tentative MSRP $19,999. So thats £16,252.28.
ABS is TBC.
Standard is Tentative MSRP $16,999 so thats £13,815.90.
With Brexit, and pound instability they will tack on extra in the UK, and the dealer will add a little as well..
Should be interesting to see the actual announcement over the weekend and costs.
It's not as simple as that as there are lots of different taxes applied in each country. The norm is to swap the $ for a £ and you'll be a lot nearer the UK price. Click on trim and select, and it will show the cost - US website.
Tentative MSRP $24,999 for SP2. So that's direct conversion of £20,312.84.
SP is Tentative MSRP $19,999. So thats £16,252.28.
ABS is TBC.
Standard is Tentative MSRP $16,999 so thats £13,815.90.
With Brexit, and pound instability they will tack on extra in the UK, and the dealer will add a little as well..
Should be interesting to see the actual announcement over the weekend and costs.
Walter Sobchak said:
So the SP will be more than the R1 M but probably not better than it, and not far off a 1299 S or RSV4 RF, as much as I love Fireblades, unless this is somehow really special, no thanks.
I agree, it's going to need to be pretty special to compete at that price pointI did see that they're pushing out the finance deals already, so I expect they'll try and be more competitive in the monthly payments through the GFV, so they'll probably still sell a fair few.
I'd certainly not put £22k into the top spec one unless it really is something very special indeed, and that market is full of some really very good bikes already
graeme4130 said:
Walter Sobchak said:
So the SP will be more than the R1 M but probably not better than it, and not far off a 1299 S or RSV4 RF, as much as I love Fireblades, unless this is somehow really special, no thanks.
I agree, it's going to need to be pretty special to compete at that price pointI did see that they're pushing out the finance deals already, so I expect they'll try and be more competitive in the monthly payments through the GFV, so they'll probably still sell a fair few.
I'd certainly not put £22k into the top spec one unless it really is something very special indeed, and that market is full of some really very good bikes already
In any case, purely on the street, the expensive 1299S may be flashy, but it is not a good daily bike, with its freaking heat issues and engine-transmission characteristics. SP is maybe less flashy, but it will love its rider instead of torturing him/her, like Pani does.
graeme4130 said:
Walter Sobchak said:
So the SP will be more than the R1 M but probably not better than it, and not far off a 1299 S or RSV4 RF, as much as I love Fireblades, unless this is somehow really special, no thanks.
I agree, it's going to need to be pretty special to compete at that price pointI did see that they're pushing out the finance deals already, so I expect they'll try and be more competitive in the monthly payments through the GFV, so they'll probably still sell a fair few.
I'd certainly not put £22k into the top spec one unless it really is something very special indeed, and that market is full of some really very good bikes already
Or do they truly believe that it is really that good a bike?
Or, they are assuming they are going to sell low numbers, and subsequently increased the price to accommodate?
I am a bit surprised at the prices as I thought it would be more competitive.
For my money I don't think its better than the R1 on spec. Standard R1 vs Standard Blade. I know, I know I haven't ridden it.
I'd rather have the R1 or a RSV4R. My mates on the other hand think this is the seconding coming of 'christ'. They are all but ready to order one now!
I was impressed with the pricing for the Africa Twin. Which is a ground up model and looks to be good quality.
For my money I don't think its better than the R1 on spec. Standard R1 vs Standard Blade. I know, I know I haven't ridden it.
I'd rather have the R1 or a RSV4R. My mates on the other hand think this is the seconding coming of 'christ'. They are all but ready to order one now!
I was impressed with the pricing for the Africa Twin. Which is a ground up model and looks to be good quality.
Everyone judging the book by its cover and assuming it should be priced less than older bikes with less technology. This is Honda, not Hyosung. Honda have access to more R&D than any other manufacturer, and are building on arguably the most refined superbike platform proven since 2008. I would be surprised if the new flagship is anything less than superlative as a bike to ride fast, over distance.
Ho Lee Kau said:
SP2, having light wheels and "better-finished" engine, compared to SP, is more of a template for further tuning for pure racing.
In any case, purely on the street, the expensive 1299S may be flashy, but it is not a good daily bike, with its freaking heat issues and engine-transmission characteristics. SP is maybe less flashy, but it will love its rider instead of torturing him/her, like Pani does.
The thing is, a modern superbike just isn't practical as a daily rider anyway, they're uncomfortable, incredibly expensive if you drop them, most kick a lot of heat out sitting in traffic as they're just not designed with urban commuting in mind. Yes the Honda might be marginally better as a daily rider than a Panigale but it's still going to be terrible as one-in an urban setting anyway.In any case, purely on the street, the expensive 1299S may be flashy, but it is not a good daily bike, with its freaking heat issues and engine-transmission characteristics. SP is maybe less flashy, but it will love its rider instead of torturing him/her, like Pani does.
For the vast majority of people who have £20k to blow on a bike, it's going to be a toy for weekend blasts and/or track days and for that the Ducati is more special, the Yamaha is more special and cheaper,likewise the Aprilia-although sadly they do have parts supply issues.
spareparts said:
Everyone judging the book by its cover and assuming it should be priced less than older bikes with less technology. This is Honda, not Hyosung. Honda have access to more R&D than any other manufacturer, and are building on arguably the most refined superbike platform proven since 2008. I would be surprised if the new flagship is anything less than superlative as a bike to ride fast, over distance.
What tech is it lacking when comparing it to the R1,Panigale or RSV4?.Renn Sport said:
I am a bit surprised at the prices as I thought it would be more competitive.
For my money I don't think its better than the R1 on spec. Standard R1 vs Standard Blade. I know, I know I haven't ridden it.
I'd rather have the R1 or a RSV4R. My mates on the other hand think this is the seconding coming of 'christ'. They are all but ready to order one now!
I was impressed with the pricing for the Africa Twin. Which is a ground up model and looks to be good quality.
How do you define "better"?For my money I don't think its better than the R1 on spec. Standard R1 vs Standard Blade. I know, I know I haven't ridden it.
I'd rather have the R1 or a RSV4R. My mates on the other hand think this is the seconding coming of 'christ'. They are all but ready to order one now!
I was impressed with the pricing for the Africa Twin. Which is a ground up model and looks to be good quality.
Better as a race bike on track? That's one thing.
Better as a street bike? That's a totally different thing.
R1 was made for track first, for street second. I rode R1, it has very committed seating position and really jerky throttle (which has been noted numerous times in numerous reviews as well).
Fireblade was always made street first and track second, and that what the development bosses for the current one said once again. I've ridden a couple of Fireblades, and I have 954RR myself, and they are great on the road, comfy, agile and friendly.
I'd also rather have an RSV4, RF though. But when I read Aprilia forums I rather like my problem-free japanese babies.
ccr32 said:
I have an SP2 on order and the official line is (well, as far as I have been told anyway) that prices aren't available yet. And, when they are announced, don't get too excited as you're not likely to get one as they will be in very short supply.
Honda surely will sell all SP2 they produce, bucketloads of SP and innumerable standard Fireblades. Fireblade is an institution, and that for a reason, it's a brilliant street bike!Just got back from local dealer. Although a fair degree of guess work was going on, it's going to look like I'll have to order my SP in April to take August delivery and it's going to be £19,100. No prices for the SP2 but that doesn't matter as my dealer was only allocated one and that's been sold. They'll have their demo SP available from 1st March, which I look forward to trying out.
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