The age of peak intelligence.

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CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
Seems to a fairly widespread belief that your at your smartest before your 30, Einstein himself said the same.
I assume your in you're mid-80's?

TEKNOPUG

18,926 posts

205 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Yipper said:
Physical intelligence = peaks at 16 to 32.
Creative intelligence = peaks at 18 to 42.
Intellectual intelligence = peaks at 18 to 48.

As a broad rule, if you have not "made it" by 40, you probably never will.
What am I supposed to have made? How will I know when I have?
confused

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
So what exactly does this tell us?
Younger people are more idealistic and older people more realistic.

Kermit power

28,641 posts

213 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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57 Chevy said:
I've got more centrist in my politics as I've got older smile
As I've got older, my politics have remained more or less exactly the same as they were.

The definition of "centre" seems to have moved a long way to the left, though. frown

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Youngsters who are interested in politics often tend to assume that they and their like minded mates will swiftly become political leaders, so they see concentrated govt power as self evidently good. Once they realize that govt is sometimes in the hands of those they don't agree with they start to see the problem.

Slightly OT, but would George Orwell have remained left wing if he had lived into the 1970s? he saw through the Soviet union and was very critical of parts of the left even in the 1930s.

Murph7355

37,683 posts

256 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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CaptainSlow said:
MarshPhantom said:
Seems to a fairly widespread belief that your at your smartest before your 30, Einstein himself said the same.
I assume your in you're mid-80's?
Laughed out loud at that. And then a little bit more at your spelling (do you have a die with "your", "you're", "there", "they're", "their" and "just delete it" on and use it randomly?)

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Murph7355 said:
CaptainSlow said:
MarshPhantom said:
Seems to a fairly widespread belief that your at your smartest before your 30, Einstein himself said the same.
I assume your in you're mid-80's?
Laughed out loud at that. And then a little bit more at your spelling (do you have a die with "your", "you're", "there", "they're", "their" and "just delete it" on and use it randomly?)
Did you mean that he has a grammar issue? Because it's a grammar issue.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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scherzkeks said:
Murph7355 said:
CaptainSlow said:
MarshPhantom said:
Seems to a fairly widespread belief that your at your smartest before your 30, Einstein himself said the same.
I assume your in you're mid-80's?
Laughed out loud at that. And then a little bit more at your spelling (do you have a die with "your", "you're", "there", "they're", "their" and "just delete it" on and use it randomly?)
Did you mean that he has a grammar issue? Because it's a grammar issue.
Is it? When does it move from not being aware of grammatical differences to failing to comprehend and implement the knowledge?

otolith

56,017 posts

204 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
So what exactly does this tell us?
It tells you that people are keener on redistributing other people's wealth than they are their own.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Define intelligence.
Employing a good accountant to do all the hard stuff for you, whilst you sit on the beach and drive fast cars wink

Murph7355

37,683 posts

256 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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CaptainSlow said:
scherzkeks said:
Murph7355 said:
CaptainSlow said:
MarshPhantom said:
Seems to a fairly widespread belief that your at your smartest before your 30, Einstein himself said the same.
I assume your in you're mid-80's?
Laughed out loud at that. And then a little bit more at your spelling (do you have a die with "your", "you're", "there", "they're", "their" and "just delete it" on and use it randomly?)
Did you mean that he has a grammar issue? Because it's a grammar issue.
Is it? When does it move from not being aware of grammatical differences to failing to comprehend and implement the knowledge?
At about 1139 smile

(scherzkeks - feck off biggrin)

DanL

6,203 posts

265 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
So what exactly does this tell us?
I neglected to answer this when pointing out the grammatical failings earlier. It tells us that correlation is not the same thing as causation, in the same way that my tiger repelling rock isn't the reason I've not been attacked by a tiger. (I should give credit to the Simpsons for that line, as I shamelessly stole it...)

Edited by DanL on Friday 20th January 12:58

Guybrush

4,342 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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If by 'intelligence', we mean the ability to get a good score in an 'intelligence quotient', i.e. IQ test, then that is only one measure of the human mind. With age comes other measurements to the fore, like wisdom based on life experience.

Digga

40,295 posts

283 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Anyway, I'm very much looking forward to reaching peak stupidity. Every year I think I may have cracked it, but then something else happens to convince me I have more to give in that regard.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
Seems to a fairly widespread belief that your at your smartest before your 30, Einstein himself said the same.


www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/09/mental-peak-age_...


Also fairly common knowledge that young people vote more Left Wing. Even The Torygraph agrees.


www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/108...


And that older people become more right wing.


www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mr-personality/201410...


So what exactly does this tell us?
That young people are worth less and pay barely any tax? It also tells us that unintelligent people don't understand the difference between correlation and causation.

B'stard Child

28,369 posts

246 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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spyder dryver said:
I preferred MarshPhantom's earlier work.
Don't think I've liked any of it........

But seeing as he likes having at least one thread on page 1 consider this a one time bump

turbobloke

103,862 posts

260 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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fblm said:
MarshPhantom said:
Seems to a fairly widespread belief that your at your smartest before your 30, Einstein himself said the same.


www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/09/mental-peak-age_...


Also fairly common knowledge that young people vote more Left Wing. Even The Torygraph agrees.


www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/108...


And that older people become more right wing.


www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mr-personality/201410...


So what exactly does this tell us?
That young people are worth less and pay barely any tax? It also tells us that unintelligent people don't understand the difference between correlation and causation.
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As for the unintelligent types not understanding the differene between correlation and causation, they can always get work in climate science. No, hold on that, the money might be about to fade away.

/trumped

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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That left wing nut jobs draw the wrong conclusions?

steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Emotional Intelligence not been mentioned yet? EI is being taken much more seriously in business now.

MiggyA

193 posts

100 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Nice troll OP. Not too clever to ask Einstein since he's dead tongue out

I'm sure we'll see a few more young genii in the sciences in years to come but it seems like as time goes on there is less innovation coming from those types simply because the amount of science you have to learn before you can even think about coming up with anything new is always increasing. Youthful energy is fine but perhaps as time goes on what we will need more of is endurance.

Re: music, pop music is its own thing because it tends to revolve around what the youth want to listen to and guess what, most of them like to hear the latest stuff made by their own kind who are in tune with what's trendy. Other music scenes work differently and in the classical world you often see composers and performers improve with age.

Basically success in any field is complicated and viewing age vs intelligence/success in such a simplistic fashion is not terribly constructive.