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del mar

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2,838 posts

198 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4130410/Br...

I am surprised this was missed yesterday.

Does she not realise that Brexit was about immigration, but as she looks to be over 30 she is probably way past her intellectual peak...


MockingJay

1,311 posts

128 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Surely the Polish and Urdu speakers should be urged to learn English before coming to live here. If I was thinking of leaving for Spain I'd certainly be learning the language before making the move.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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They are urged to learn English, by that same professor. You picked a really bad example with Spain, as most of the zimmer-frame brigade can't speak Spanish to save their lives (oh and some are actually very proud that they can't).

All in all, random goody-two-shoes says something, Daily mail picks it up knowing that dimwits will get all angry and stuff about it.


del mar

Original Poster:

2,838 posts

198 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
They are urged to learn English, by that same professor. You picked a really bad example with Spain, as most of the zimmer-frame brigade can't speak Spanish to save their lives (oh and some are actually very proud that they can't).

All in all, random goody-two-shoes says something, Daily mail picks it up knowing that dimwits will get all angry and stuff about it.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jan/18/britons-should-learn-polish-punjabi-and-urdu-to-boost-social-cohesion

I presume the dimwits reading the Guardian are too dim to get all angry and stuff about it ....

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
They are urged to learn English, by that same professor. You picked a really bad example with Spain, as most of the zimmer-frame brigade can't speak Spanish to save their lives (oh and some are actually very proud that they can't).

All in all, random goody-two-shoes says something, Daily mail picks it up knowing that dimwits will get all angry and stuff about it.
Spanish is a good example as its just about as popular world wide as English. Mandarin and Hindi/Urdu obviously top the chart.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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del mar said:
jjlynn27 said:
They are urged to learn English, by that same professor. You picked a really bad example with Spain, as most of the zimmer-frame brigade can't speak Spanish to save their lives (oh and some are actually very proud that they can't).

All in all, random goody-two-shoes says something, Daily mail picks it up knowing that dimwits will get all angry and stuff about it.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jan/18/britons-should-learn-polish-punjabi-and-urdu-to-boost-social-cohesion

I presume the dimwits reading the Guardian are too dim to get all angry and stuff about it ....
Wow, you managed to get something right. Everyone who gets all angry about stuff like this is a dimwit. At least you have a hobby.

ETA;

What she actually said if you bothered to read pass the headline;

prof said:
“Considering the issue from the point of view of language learning, we rightly expect immigrants to learn English but, as a nation, we often don’t see the need ourselves to learn another language, and consider it to be something difficult and only for the intellectual elite.

“I would like to see more opportunities for British people to learn some of the community languages of the UK, such as Polish, Punjabi and Urdu, particularly in areas where there are high numbers of those speakers, so that there is some mutual effort in understanding the others’ language and culture.”
Edited by jjlynn27 on Friday 20th January 09:39

Camoradi

4,285 posts

255 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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I think people should speak the majority language of the country they choose to live in, wherever that may be.

For their own convenience if nothing else....

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Camoradi said:
I think people should speak the majority language of the country they choose to live in, wherever that may be.

For their own convenience if nothing else....
This should be mandatory, as far as I'm concerned.

BOR

4,698 posts

254 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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There's no point learning anything another language.

The Foreign won't be allowed in any more(because stealing our jobs), the ones that are here will be sent back, and as the value of the pound drops, you won't be able to afford to go abroad.

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

242 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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BOR said:
There's no point learning anything another language.

The Foreign won't be allowed in any more(because stealing our jobs), the ones that are here will be sent back, and as the value of the pound drops, you won't be able to afford to go abroad.
That's a great impression of the more moaning end of the PH remain voter.

Camoradi

4,285 posts

255 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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BOR said:
There's no point learning anything another language.
Freudian slip or advanced sense of irony?

killingjoker

950 posts

192 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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She has a face like a bulldog licking p*ss of a thistle.
So i really don't care what crackpot stuff she says.

Europa1

10,923 posts

187 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Her views on Europe are very balanced compared to other Cambridge professors. I'll just put his down very carefully, tiptoe out of the room, and close the door quietly behind me: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-new...


TTwiggy

11,500 posts

203 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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killingjoker said:
She has a face like a bulldog licking p*ss of a thistle.
So i really don't care what crackpot stuff she says.
Yes, the quality of someone's intellect should always be based on how they look. That's why I've never listened to Prof Hawkins, the shrivelled little munchkin.





iphonedyou

9,234 posts

156 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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TTwiggy said:
Yes, the quality of someone's intellect should always be based on how they look. That's why I've never listened to Prof Hawkins, the shrivelled little munchkin.
rofl

Well said.

Murph7355

37,649 posts

255 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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TTwiggy said:
killingjoker said:
She has a face like a bulldog licking p*ss of a thistle.
So i really don't care what crackpot stuff she says.
Yes, the quality of someone's intellect should always be based on how they look. That's why I've never listened to Prof Hawkins, the shrivelled little munchkin.
I don't think that's quite what he's saying.

I think his angle is that it's a bit like food...if it's not well presented you're not as inclined to eat it. Unless you're very hungry.

Anyway, quit being so PC. His wasn't the funniest of irreverent posts, but life would be very dull if we ruled out all the off-message stuff.

TTwiggy

11,500 posts

203 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Murph7355 said:


Anyway, quit being so PC.
You maybe missed the part where I called Hawkins a shrivelled little munchkin?

Motorrad

6,811 posts

186 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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I could see that if you lived in an area of the UK where there are a lot of people who don't speak English as their first language learning some of their tongue could come in very useful.

Please, Thank you, fk off etc.

What I do find amusing however is the double standard of the stereotypical British person abroad (holiday or economic migrant like mebiggrin) who doesn't learn a fking word of the language and just speaks louder and slower while expecting foreigners to be fluent in English when in the UK.

Grunt Futtock

334 posts

98 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Motorrad said:
I could see that if you lived in an area of the UK where there are a lot of people who don't speak English as their first language learning some of their tongue could come in very useful.

Please, Thank you, fk off etc.

What I do find amusing however is the double standard of the stereotypical British person abroad (holiday or economic migrant like mebiggrin) who doesn't learn a fking word of the language and just speaks louder and slower while expecting foreigners to be fluent in English when in the UK.
Holidaymakers abroad shouldn't expect the locals to speak English however it may well be in the interests of the locals to learn English for the tourism dollars. English speaking Economic migrants abroad should definitely learn the local language.

The same benefits of learning Urdu/Polish/Romanian/Arabic/(insert language of choice) aren't present for people in this country. There is no great tourism from the countries we receive most of our migrants from. English is the international language of business to boot so unless you are actively trading with another country there isn't a great deal of value in learning another language (especially one of the languages listed above).

Europa1

10,923 posts

187 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Motorrad said:
What I do find amusing however is the double standard of the stereotypical British person abroad (holiday or economic migrant like mebiggrin) who doesn't learn a fking word of the language and just speaks louder and slower while expecting foreigners to be fluent in English when in the UK.
Reminds me of the great Edmund Blackadder: "Can we have a conversation, or are we just going to spend the time asking the way to the beach in very loud voices?"